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Where Do You Stand? (2016 Election)
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In case you're not being sarcastic, and my apologies if you are, no. MAD lead to less direct frontal attacks between the two great powers, but resulted in dozens of small- to middle-sized proxy wars, best-known obviously being Vietnam, Cuba, Afghanistan and Korea. Some would argue it still continues to this day, with Syria as a proxy war between Russian-backed Assad, USA-backed non-aligned rebels, Saudi-Arabian backed Sunni rebels and IS, and Iran backed Shiite rebels. And the Chinese are funneling money in there too, though I'm at a loss to say to whom.
Right, and those are still probably better than worldwide thermonuclear war.
Nations (like people) don't need a reason to want to kill their neighbor and take their stuff. They need a reason NOT to (usually making allies against a "different" enemy). MAD is another good reason to NOT do the whole war thing.
Cynical yes, but hey, it works pretty often, and arguably lines up with history a lot better IMO.
If that post had been mine instead of @GasBandit's, I feel like your response would have been different. I mean, at least then you might have noticed it was a joke.
Full disclosure: I'm only following the RNC via Twitter, Reddit, tumblr, and this place. No way am I turning on cable news.
The main story is already damage control. Apparently large chunks of Melania Trump's speech tonight was lifted word for word from Michelle Obama's speech to the DNC in 2008.
Then how about speakers after her talking to a mostly empty arena, Trump upstaging other speakers by calling the networks, Rudy turning himself into a meme, and Gov. Kasich skipping the convention in the middle of a feud with the Trump campaign.
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The main story is already damage control. Apparently large chunks of Melania Trump's speech tonight was lifted word for word from Michelle Obama's speech to the DNC in 2008.
Then how about speakers after her talking to a mostly empty arena, Trump upstaging other speakers by calling the networks, Rudy turning himself into a meme, and Gov. Kasich skipping the convention in the middle of a feud with the Trump campaign.
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Steve King steps in it again. Asks what contributions non-whites have made to civilization.
And yes, I know he actually said "other subgroup of people," but the dogwhistle has been heard and translated in headline after headline tonight.
And yes, I know he actually said "other subgroup of people," but the dogwhistle has been heard and translated in headline after headline tonight.
Gov. Kasich may be a Republican, but he's a old school Republican and he's not about to give Trump an endorsement just to shore up Trump's chances against Hillary. He knows it can only hurt his own future presidential aims and he's already seen what rolling over did to Chris Christie, who got snubbed for VP after being one of the first big names to fall in line.Full disclosure: I'm only following the RNC via Twitter, Reddit, tumblr, and this place. No way am I turning on cable news.
The main story is already damage control. Apparently large chunks of Melania Trump's speech tonight was lifted word for word from Michelle Obama's speech to the DNC in 2008.
Then how about speakers after her talking to a mostly empty arena, Trump upstaging other speakers by calling the networks, Rudy turning himself into a meme, and Gov. Kasich skipping the convention in the middle of a feud with the Trump campaign.
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I applaud him for sticking a knife into the back of his party. He was snubbed from day one and the party didn't start looking at him until everyone else dropped out. I can't see why he'd stay with them at this point.
When I'd heard it reported on, it was reported on (no clip) like it was disparate sound bytes, not all strung together. If they were in different parts of the speech, fine, but all together? Busted.
They shouldn't have done that, and whoever wrote that speech for them should be canned publicly.
That said, I have to admit I'm not a big fan of speechwriters, particularly after reading about how one of Obama's main speechwriters works and what he believes his job to be. It's politics, sure, and a scripted act meant solely to obtain the desired result.
In order words, crafted manipulation.
I know it's how we do things these days, but that doesn't mean I have to like it, and it only makes me more suspicious that they aren't doing what they say, or saying what they're doing.
Anyway, as such I don't really care who's cribbing from whom. I don't want to see either Trump or Clinton in that office. They both epitomize "do one thing, say another."
That said, I have to admit I'm not a big fan of speechwriters, particularly after reading about how one of Obama's main speechwriters works and what he believes his job to be. It's politics, sure, and a scripted act meant solely to obtain the desired result.
In order words, crafted manipulation.
I know it's how we do things these days, but that doesn't mean I have to like it, and it only makes me more suspicious that they aren't doing what they say, or saying what they're doing.
Anyway, as such I don't really care who's cribbing from whom. I don't want to see either Trump or Clinton in that office. They both epitomize "do one thing, say another."
Up here it's the Federal Liberals Motto I'd say: Say whatever it takes to get elected, Do whatever those bribing you say to do.
A brief recent history of political speech plagiarism:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/19/short-history-political-plagiarism-melania-trump
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/19/short-history-political-plagiarism-melania-trump
My ears perked up when she said she grew up in Chicago as a poor black girl....
I remember the days, sittin' on the porch with her family, singin' and dancin'
GasBandit
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Whoa whoa whoa, let's not get our hopes CRAZY high.
I just would be happy to see him included in the debates, tbh.
And imply that voters could vote for a third party?! It's important that D and R never acknowledge the existence of a third party, unless it's to point out that they're all crackpots and jokes. They've spent decades working to shore up the two-party system.
But this time around the crackpot dope is in a mainstream party.
I wouldn't want Johnson to be president but I desperately want this to happen.
It's a crazy election cycle, and he's seen as a good protest vote for Republicans who don't want Drumpf. He might just secure that 5% and become eligible for Federal funding via the Presidential Election Campaign Fund grant. Which is actually kind of ironic.
You seem to be under the impression that only one of the leading candidates is such.
Oh wait, the other is a Machiavellian criminal who has escaped prosecution multiple times. Her opponent's name is Donald.
At this point, I just think vote for whoever, it doesn't matter. It's all a trash fire.
Well, if we're gonna mention that, we should probably also mention Trump's 169 federal lawsuits, from anti-trust violations to discrimination to securities fraud. If you include state courts, that number explodes to 3,500. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...donald-trump-lawsuits-legal-battles/84995854/
Going back to 1983, that's 3500 cases in 33 years, or 106 cases per year. There are judges who don't participate in that many cases.
Null, I'm not American, and don't live there. I'm emphasizing how horrific BOTH of those candidates are. I thought it was rather quaint last month when I saw Citizen Kane and how the accusation of a scandal (let alone proving anything, like classified emails for just one example) completely tanked his prospects, forever. Fast-forward 70 years, you expect total criminals, who don't even hide it.
I still think the old Simpsons episode says it best. You will literally have two space aliens bent on world destruction on the ticket, and you still won't vote for a 3rd party candidate.
Their third party candidate sucks ass too.
I'd rather not legitimize Libertarianism as a political philosophy.
Dave
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Their platform is rather terrible.