If only we had a "Nyeh" rating.
a Trump vs Clinton United States Presidential Election in 2016
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This election is a fever dream
Necronic
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So the most amazing thing about this clip is that when it ends it showed that there was a new Mr Plinkett review of The Force Awakens. He has t done one of those in years. I'm so fucking excited.
Also fwiw those debates tonight weren't bad. Pence is your standard old garde republican and Cain tried to pull a Biden but flubbed it. What I wouldn't give to see old diamond Joe out on any of those stages giving these clowns the beat down. He would have wiped the floor with either of them.
So he still pulled a Biden
McMullin pulled ahead of Stein in national polls. Still only 2%, but that's pretty significant given his late entry into the race, and fully independent status.
The only possible path to the presidency for him, though, is if he pulls enough votes away from Hillary that the house chooses, and then he hopes they will choose him.
Very, very, very unlikely, even if we end up in the situation where the house chooses. He's simply not a strong leader, and dithers a lot on many issues.
The only possible path to the presidency for him, though, is if he pulls enough votes away from Hillary that the house chooses, and then he hopes they will choose him.
Very, very, very unlikely, even if we end up in the situation where the house chooses. He's simply not a strong leader, and dithers a lot on many issues.
Just to make sure no one actually takes that lie seriously, no, he did not say that.
Speaking of Irony Alerts:
Someone who apparently is a reporter who wants to make reporters "report" again, is fine with tweeting non-factual information for the sake of snark.
It's okay, as long as it fits the narrative.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligence...date-just-wants-to-stop-trump-presidency.html
As some presumably small portion of Americans sat through a dull debate between the Republican and Democratic vice-presidential nominees on Tuesday night, a far more interesting drama was unfolding within the Libertarian ticket. VP candidate Bill Weld told the Boston Globe that he plans to focus exclusively on attacking Donald Trump for the remainder of the campaign — essentially admitting that running mate Gary Johnson can not become president.
Trump has Weld’s “full attention,” he explained, because his agenda is so terrible it’s “in a class by itself.” “I think Mr. Trump’s proposals in the foreign policy area, including nuclear proliferation, tariffs, and free trade, would be so hurtful, domestically and in the world, that he has my full attention,” Weld said.
Apparently he avoided acknowledging that his new mission amounts to working to make Hillary Clinton president. He pointed out that he disagrees with Clinton on fiscal and military issues, though last week on MSNBC he said he’s “not sure anybody is more qualified than Hillary Clinton to be president of the United States.”
As some presumably small portion of Americans sat through a dull debate between the Republican and Democratic vice-presidential nominees on Tuesday night, a far more interesting drama was unfolding within the Libertarian ticket. VP candidate Bill Weld told the Boston Globe that he plans to focus exclusively on attacking Donald Trump for the remainder of the campaign — essentially admitting that running mate Gary Johnson can not become president.
Trump has Weld’s “full attention,” he explained, because his agenda is so terrible it’s “in a class by itself.” “I think Mr. Trump’s proposals in the foreign policy area, including nuclear proliferation, tariffs, and free trade, would be so hurtful, domestically and in the world, that he has my full attention,” Weld said.
Apparently he avoided acknowledging that his new mission amounts to working to make Hillary Clinton president. He pointed out that he disagrees with Clinton on fiscal and military issues, though last week on MSNBC he said he’s “not sure anybody is more qualified than Hillary Clinton to be president of the United States.”
Weld himself is unimpressed with how the Boston Globe article somewhat misrepresented him, and the one you posted that puts even more spin on it.
What I love is that Johnson and Weld are fully aware of how difficult a victory for them would be, and don't try to deny or hide the fact. Yet people both here and in the media can't seem to recognize this and want to treat them as if they're delusional nitwits who think they share the same odds as D & R candidates.
But hey it's very important to keep driving home that point that a vote for a thirdparty is a wasted vote for crazy people, or a vote for <Insert candidate you hate here>, because otherwise we might break the two party system.
But hey it's very important to keep driving home that point that a vote for a thirdparty is a wasted vote for crazy people, or a vote for <Insert candidate you hate here>, because otherwise we might break the two party system.
The Two Party System is what made America great, and breaking it would be UnAmerican! Downright Communist! Traitor!
Huge shocker, he's a fucking disaster of a businessman.
But he's AMAZING at getting people to give him money. Like... he's done nothing BUT fail since he started in business, but here we are, 30 years later, and he's STILL living like a celebrity. He's a terrible businessman but a GREAT con man.
What do you call a pyramid scheme that only has two levels?
Marriage! 
Social Security
Trump Tower.
There is some speculation that Hillary's handling of women who've accused Bill in the past is hurting her among young female voters:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/03/u...ackage-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
The tactics in use at the time were to discredit the story, then discredit and, inasmuch as possible, destroy the women claiming to have had affairs with Bill Clinton. Bill later admitted to many of these affairs, so the republicans are making a lot of hay towards young female voters about how Hillary ruined women that her husband have had affairs with.
At the time supporting your husband and destroying those who got in the way of your marriage may have been seen as acceptable, but now some in the the women's rights movements are unhappy with the tactics deployed.
Given that Sanders had a commanding lead with young female voters before the DNC convention, despite the idea of having the first female president, it's really interesting how this is all playing out.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/03/u...ackage-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
The tactics in use at the time were to discredit the story, then discredit and, inasmuch as possible, destroy the women claiming to have had affairs with Bill Clinton. Bill later admitted to many of these affairs, so the republicans are making a lot of hay towards young female voters about how Hillary ruined women that her husband have had affairs with.
At the time supporting your husband and destroying those who got in the way of your marriage may have been seen as acceptable, but now some in the the women's rights movements are unhappy with the tactics deployed.
Given that Sanders had a commanding lead with young female voters before the DNC convention, despite the idea of having the first female president, it's really interesting how this is all playing out.
GasBandit
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And it's not the first time this sort of thing has come up.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...ade-edits-to-campus-sexual-assault-page-after
Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton's campaign reportedly made some edits to the campus sexual assault page on its website shortly after a viral tweet from Juanita Broaddrick, Buzzfeed News reported.
The Democratic nominee's campaign deleted the line, "You have the right to be believed," from the page on its site, though there is still video of Clinton saying it.
Broaddrick, who claimed Bill Clinton raped her in 1978 when he was serving as Arkansas' attorney general, decided to tweet after hearing Clinton's statements on sexual assault.
“I was 35 years old when Bill Clinton, Ark. Attorney General raped me and Hillary tried to silence me," she tweeted.
"I am now 73....it never goes away.”
The line from Clinton's website was reportedly deleted in February after Broaddrick's tweet made headlines.
The Clinton campaign declined to comment on the change, according to Buzzfeed.
Interestingly enough, I found it through the BBC, so it's making it's way through the international press seemingly faster than the US press:
http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37525338
http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37525338
lol if y'all grasp at the same straws at the same time there ain't gonna be enough to get in your grubby little he-man woman-hating fingers
I'm more curious as to why Charlie is so sure that her claims are untrue. This isn't a new thing, I remember hearing about this during the primaries, and it's something that makes me uncomfortable about her. Unfortunately, we'll probably never get concrete evidence one way or the other, and there's evidence that Trump is a rapist himself so not much good there.
Charlie did not say that. He's talking about grasping at straws--trying to taint her validity as a candidate based on nigh-irrelevant accusations. Think "Trump can't be President because his favorite color is yellow!" sort of stuff.
I would agree except that these actions, if true, show moral turpitude, which is very relevant to political candidacies.
Where'd the pedophile stuff for Bill come from?
Rapist, yes. But I don't see anything supporting pedophile.
Did you guys forget about the Lolita Express allegations? Both Trump and Bill Clinton flew on it.
Bill Clinton ditched Secret Service on multiple ‘Lolita Express’ flights: Report (changed to more extensive article)
Bill Clinton ditched Secret Service on multiple ‘Lolita Express’ flights: Report (changed to more extensive article)
October surprise
Speaking as a self-identified evangelical Christian who is a member of a theologically conservative denomination (Presbyterian Church in America), I am just as baffled as you are. As near as I can tell, the Trump support among evangelicals (at least at my conservative church located in a "solid republican" county according to Real Clear Politics) is strongest among those who don't attend church regularly, or otherwise don't take their faith so seriously. Recanting a tenet of faith isn't hard if you don't really hold to it in the first place.
Among my circle of friends whom I meet with to worship every week, I don't know of a single person who is a Trump supporter. A good number of us are actually politically left-libertarian, as inspired by our conservative faith.
Point is, despite the media's best attempts, you can't easily lump all evangelicals together - and I don't just mean in a #notallevangelicals kind of way. It's a lot more nuanced than that.