It's not. At all.
a Trump vs Clinton United States Presidential Election in 2016
- Thread starter Charlie Don't Surf
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I guess he figures the women are Jewish.
I don't see how the election's changed anything besides perceptions. A lot of (naive) people thought the U.S. was better than it really is. Can't solve a problem with acknowledging it exists. Trump didn't create the culture that allowed him to get this far; he just exploited a resource that already existed.
Yes, but it has brought to the surface and fostered an even greater divide than there was before.
Believe women.
GasBandit
Staff member
Like Juanita Broaddrick, Kathleen Willey, and Paula Jones?
Bravo. I'm ashamed I did not reply thusly.
He DID settle with Jones for a large amount, while he had her on the ropes in the appeal. Take that as you will, ether as hush money or to get her to go away.
Yes. Put Bill Clinton in prison. Joe Biden may assume the post of First Gentleman.
Hillary: "That's no First Gentleman; that's my husband."
In a sworn affidavit on Dec 23, 1998, Juanita Broaddrick denied an “unsubstantiated, hearsay claim” made by the Paula Jones’ legal team that Bill Clinton had invited her (as Jane Doe #5) to a hotel room and forced her to have sex.
Under oath, Broaddrick said the rumors were “untrue”. Here are the relevant sections of her affidavit, per the Washington Post (my bold):
3. I met President Clinton more than twenty years ago through family friends. Our introduction was not arranged or facilitated, in any way, by the Arkansas State Police. I have never been an Arkansas state employee or a federal employee. I have never discussed with Mr. Clinton the possibility of state or federal employment nor has he offered me any such position. I have had no further relations with him for the past (15) years.
4. During the 1992 Presidential campaign there were unfounded rumors and stories circulated that Mr. Clinton had made unwelcome sexual advances toward me in the late seventies. Newspaper and tabloid reporters hounded me and my family, seeking corroboration of these tales. I repeatedly denied the allegations and requested that my family’s privacy be respected. These allegations are untrue and I had hoped that they would no longer haunt me, or cause further disruption to my family.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/affidavit122398.htm
So, did she lie under oath then, or is she lying now?
It's also worth mentioning that Ken Starr's investigation asked her about it and felt her testimony was "inconclusive".
Under oath, Broaddrick said the rumors were “untrue”. Here are the relevant sections of her affidavit, per the Washington Post (my bold):
3. I met President Clinton more than twenty years ago through family friends. Our introduction was not arranged or facilitated, in any way, by the Arkansas State Police. I have never been an Arkansas state employee or a federal employee. I have never discussed with Mr. Clinton the possibility of state or federal employment nor has he offered me any such position. I have had no further relations with him for the past (15) years.
4. During the 1992 Presidential campaign there were unfounded rumors and stories circulated that Mr. Clinton had made unwelcome sexual advances toward me in the late seventies. Newspaper and tabloid reporters hounded me and my family, seeking corroboration of these tales. I repeatedly denied the allegations and requested that my family’s privacy be respected. These allegations are untrue and I had hoped that they would no longer haunt me, or cause further disruption to my family.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/affidavit122398.htm
So, did she lie under oath then, or is she lying now?
It's also worth mentioning that Ken Starr's investigation asked her about it and felt her testimony was "inconclusive".
If Trump wanted to run against Bill Clinton, he's 20 years too late. As it is, going after Hillary on Bill's account is a worse case of "too late" than when Hillary and Obama were going after George W Bush in the 2008 election. Bill isn't running. Yeah, he'll be back in the White House, but he'll never be president again. It doesn't work that way. It's not like he tagged her in or something.
I don't expect Trump to know or understand any of this though.
I don't expect Trump to know or understand any of this though.
It'll turn out that Hillary has been dead for years, it's been Bill in a wig the whole time.
The only valid claim in this vein is that Hillary worked hard to destroy women who accused Bill, publicly, politically, economically, and emotionally, regardless of the validity of those women's claims against Bill or not.
Unless people come forward and claim they were abused more directly by Hillary, though, she can merely claim she was just protecting her family and it may continue to appeal to her base.
Unless people come forward and claim they were abused more directly by Hillary, though, she can merely claim she was just protecting her family and it may continue to appeal to her base.
And also, is there evidence of her actually doing that? Yes, she had some harsh things to say about Gennifer Flowers and Monica Lewinsky, but is there evidence of her actively attempting to "Destroy" the accusers?
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/11/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-bill-clinton-accusers/
GasBandit
Staff member
Oh not just philandering. I didn't include all the women he philandered with with consent. Just the three that said he sexually assaulted/raped them.
This is kind of a complicated question, but uh, I sorta don't think it's possible for there to be a consentual affair with the President of the United States based on the power dynamics alone.
My wife would like to know if you were dropped on your head as a child.
her and anyone else you want to hide your shitty insults behind can go fuck themselves, chief
That brofist is, obviously, for your wife.
I was gonna leave it with the rating. She had the question. Why is it you believe women can't have minds of their own?
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I have passed it on, she brofists you back.
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get over yourselfFTFY[DOUBLEPOST=1476552825,1476552766][/DOUBLEPOST]
Charlie, are you saying that if you were in the White House and the president--any president--came onto you, you would feel compelled to consent?
That's my question, not hers. If she wants to continue this, she can log on herself. In any case, she thought your response was hilarious, so what do I know?
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Your internalized misogyny is clearly disrupting your position in the space-time continuum!
I only mentioned having an affair with the president, not just any sex ever.