Perhaps, but I feel like that was settled with the Kennedys really. If not them, then the Bushes trying to get Jeb in after W and Senior.
On the other hand, I don't really see Chelsea Clinton trying to elected.
a Trump vs Clinton United States Presidential Election in 2016
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On the other hand, I don't really see Chelsea Clinton trying to elected.
GasBandit
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20 years ago I would have thought Hillary Clinton being elected was just as ephemeral.
On Facebook I've jokingly commented "Michelle Obama / Corey Booker 2024" but that's not really a viable ticket, just because Booker's still a relatively junior Senator and Michelle Obama has not held a political office as of yet. Sanders will be in his 80s by then.
Governor Mark Dayton of Minnesota, though, could be a good contender. Help draw in the Middle America that feels abandoned, his tenure as governor has been relatively successful, not a lot of scandals that I've heard of involving him.
Maybe Representative Michele Lujan Grisham as a balance - young, from a prestigious NM political family, big on health care reform and issues effecting the elderly, considered a real up and coming Latinx politician.
Governor Mark Dayton of Minnesota, though, could be a good contender. Help draw in the Middle America that feels abandoned, his tenure as governor has been relatively successful, not a lot of scandals that I've heard of involving him.
Maybe Representative Michele Lujan Grisham as a balance - young, from a prestigious NM political family, big on health care reform and issues effecting the elderly, considered a real up and coming Latinx politician.
The Texas Triangle is a land of culture, industry, and science. It is the Texas of Ross Perot, Lyndon Johnson, and NASA.
Go out into the rural areas, and you come across the Texas that most educated Texans want to forget. It's a land of conspiracy theorists, drug abuse, and seething resentment.
You forget, she's already 35.
You think there's any chance that she'd be allowed to run against her mother?
But only if they agreed to be sewn together as one SUPER BUSH, Master Blaster style.
Hmm... I was picturing one of them being the President and the other the Vice President, but since they're twins they can swap around if they ever wanted.
Waaaah! Some middle-aged guy on the internet might be mean to me in a text post! That's the excuse to not even try? It's funny and sad at the same time. If you're not willing to defend your position at all, then what kind of position is it? Are you (generic you, not YOU you) that uncertain that you won't take any risk?
Are you afraid that if you reexamine your priorities you might draw new conclusions... and vote for someone one else after all?
"You should listen to new ideas, and I'm going to scream loudly and plug my ears until you do."
You're the puppet!
That's why I said 2024.
Ack my bad. I didn't realize you had changed the date and completely misunderstood your post because of it.
You're jumping at every little thing. He's not even disagreeing with you, just how you're behaving.
He's gone full Charlie. You never go full Charlie.
GasBandit
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You are full Charlie. We're nicer to you for the sake of the memory of who you used to be, and in the hopes that when the election is over you'll Bruce Banner back into an actual human being again.No I haven't. I haven't told any of you to fuck off... yet.
You've told our Mystery Trump Supporter to fuck off at least half a dozen times in this thread alone.No I haven't. I haven't told any of you to fuck off... yet.
I mean, err, "WRONG".
Lex Luthor did it before Trump and did it better.
Wait, Lex Luthor was elected president.
Which Earth is this?!!
I didn't know there was an Al Smith dinner.
Ive never heard of this person.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_M._La_Follette_Sr.
Pretty important to Wisconsin.
Robert Marion "Fighting Bob"[1] La Follette Sr.(June 14, 1855 – June 18, 1925) was an American Republican (and later a Progressive) politician. He served as a member of the U.S. House of Representatives, was the Governor of Wisconsin, and was a U.S. Senator from Wisconsin from 1906 to 1925. He ran for President of the United States as the nominee of his own Progressive Party in 1924, carrying Wisconsin and winning 17% of the national popular vote.
His wife Belle Case La Follette, and his sons Robert M. La Follette Jr. and Philip La Follette led his political faction in Wisconsin into the 1940s. La Follette has been called "arguably the most important and recognized leader of the opposition to the growing dominance of corporations over the Government"[2] and is one of the key figures pointed to in Wisconsin's long history of political liberalism.
He is best remembered as a proponent of progressivism and a vocal opponent of railroad trusts, bossism, World War I, and the League of Nations. In 1957, a Senate Committee selected La Follette as one of the five greatest U.S. Senators, along with Henry Clay, Daniel Webster, John C. Calhoun, and Robert A. Taft. A 1982 survey asking historians to rank the "ten greatest Senators in the nation's history" based on "accomplishments in office" and "long range impact on American history," placed La Follette first, tied with Henry Clay.[3] Robert La Follette is one of five outstanding senators memorialized by portraits in the Senate reception room in US Capitol. The Robert M. La Follette School of Public Affairs at the University of Wisconsin is named for him.[4]
Pretty important to Wisconsin.
Robert Marion "Fighting Bob"[1] La Follette Sr.(June 14, 1855 – June 18, 1925) was an American Republican (and later a Progressive) politician. He served as a member of the U.S. House of Representatives, was the Governor of Wisconsin, and was a U.S. Senator from Wisconsin from 1906 to 1925. He ran for President of the United States as the nominee of his own Progressive Party in 1924, carrying Wisconsin and winning 17% of the national popular vote.
His wife Belle Case La Follette, and his sons Robert M. La Follette Jr. and Philip La Follette led his political faction in Wisconsin into the 1940s. La Follette has been called "arguably the most important and recognized leader of the opposition to the growing dominance of corporations over the Government"[2] and is one of the key figures pointed to in Wisconsin's long history of political liberalism.
He is best remembered as a proponent of progressivism and a vocal opponent of railroad trusts, bossism, World War I, and the League of Nations. In 1957, a Senate Committee selected La Follette as one of the five greatest U.S. Senators, along with Henry Clay, Daniel Webster, John C. Calhoun, and Robert A. Taft. A 1982 survey asking historians to rank the "ten greatest Senators in the nation's history" based on "accomplishments in office" and "long range impact on American history," placed La Follette first, tied with Henry Clay.[3] Robert La Follette is one of five outstanding senators memorialized by portraits in the Senate reception room in US Capitol. The Robert M. La Follette School of Public Affairs at the University of Wisconsin is named for him.[4]
Perhaps he's nameless and faceless because you've told him to "fuck off" and called him a Nazi? I would go so far as to say the mentality that "I can't see them, or know them, therefore I can belittle and insult them," is a significant force behind: internet abuse, misogyny, racism, generally being a jerk.Fixed.
There is that, but I haven't gone "fuck off, Bubble," or "fuck off, GB." A nameless, faceless "Trump voter" is impersonal.
(I probably have told GB to fuck off. Probably more than once. But not as much as I used to.
I don't know how you can square that circle: "It's not personal because he won't identify himself," as though if he identifies himself, you're going to go back and delete all the references to Nazism. After all, you wouldn't want to personally call someone a Nazi?
