Whine like a baby, now with 500% more drama!

Just got back from the dentist. THREE CAVITIES. They filled two of em today, but the third is between two molars and down on the gum line, so I have to go back and get numbed up on wednesday to get that taken care of >_<

But hey, I found out my blood pressure is 115/64 (120/80 is considered normal). Which I find hard to believe, given how much stress I've been under the last couple weeks. And the fact that I'm way overweight and have a resting heart rate like the cowbell from Don't Fear the Reaper.
Alcohol dilutes the blood and helps keep pressure down, it works great, like adding antifreeze to your brake fluid in winter.

:awesome:
 
I found out my blood pressure is 115/64 (120/80 is considered normal). Which I find hard to believe, given how much stress I've been under the last couple weeks. And the fact that I'm way overweight and have a resting heart rate like the cowbell from Don't Fear the Reaper.
Your blood vessels are simply giving up. Somewhere in your body is that one blood vessel that's trying to twist itself into a balloon animal, and that restriction is keeping your pressure down.

--Patrick
 
I'm on vacation. (Yay!) In Hawaii. (Yay!)
With all of my in-laws. All 9 of them. In one house. Including a 5 year old, who is fine if a bit high-energy for my taste when in a hot climate, and an almost-3-year-old. Who whines. All. The. Time. And everyone else seems to find it endearing. It drives me nuts.
And noone in this family has a volume knob, so it's all yelling or screeching all the time. The longest it's been quiet since we've been here (when everyone's actually awake) has been <10 seconds.
I miss peace and quiet.
 
I'm on vacation. (Yay!) In Hawaii. (Yay!)
With all of my in-laws. All 9 of them. In one house. Including a 5 year old, who is fine if a bit high-energy for my taste when in a hot climate, and an almost-3-year-old. Who whines. All. The. Time. And everyone else seems to find it endearing. It drives me nuts.
And noone in this family has a volume knob, so it's all yelling or screeching all the time. The longest it's been quiet since we've been here (when everyone's actually awake) has been <10 seconds.
I miss peace and quiet.
Take lots of pictures so you can remember it for ever and ever and ever and ever.

--Patrick
 
Since my daughter is in "show choir" (which really just means if the music teacher likes you, you're in whether you can sing or not), she has to go to the 3rd grade halloween concert tonight and the 4th grade one tomorrow, and I'm a terrible parent because I would really rather do anything than have to go to these concerts. Thankfully they should be really short, but I wish I didn't have to go. HOPEFULLY my husband will get out of work early enough to take her tomorrow so I don't have to go to both.
 
I'm on vacation. (Yay!) In Hawaii. (Yay!)
With all of my in-laws. All 9 of them. In one house. Including a 5 year old, who is fine if a bit high-energy for my taste when in a hot climate, and an almost-3-year-old. Who whines. All. The. Time. And everyone else seems to find it endearing. It drives me nuts.
And noone in this family has a volume knob, so it's all yelling or screeching all the time. The longest it's been quiet since we've been here (when everyone's actually awake) has been <10 seconds.
I miss peace and quiet.
Say hi to Wasabi for me. Tell her I miss her.


And try to have fun. Maybe walk on the beach alone. If that's actually possible.
 
A recent addition to my office seems to think the funniest thing in the world is that Chinese people have "funny" names and then to either pretend she can speak Chinese (you know exactly what this sounds like) or if she's just gotten off the phone with anyone Asian who has an accent or speaks broken English, to immediately imitate that person.

It's really pissing me off, but I'm not sure if I have a leg to stand on complaining about it to my manager, besides that it's making the office an uncomfortable working environment for me personally, even though I'm not a nationality/culture/ethnicity that she's ripping on. If I'm told "too bad, deal with it" then at least I'll know where I stand. I wish we had an HR person, but we haven't for years.
 
A recent addition to my office seems to think the funniest thing in the world is that Chinese people have "funny" names and then to either pretend she can speak Chinese (you know exactly what this sounds like) or if she's just gotten off the phone with anyone Asian who has an accent or speaks broken English, to immediately imitate that person.

It's really pissing me off, but I'm not sure if I have a leg to stand on complaining about it to my manager, besides that it's making the office an uncomfortable working environment for me personally, even though I'm not a nationality/culture/ethnicity that she's ripping on. If I'm told "too bad, deal with it" then at least I'll know where I stand. I wish we had an HR person, but we haven't for years.
This may have tangible consequences for your organization if she accidentally does it before she's fully hung up the phone.
 
besides that it's making the office an uncomfortable working environment for me personally, even though I'm not a nationality/culture/ethnicity that she's ripping on. If I'm told "too bad, deal with it" then at least I'll know where I stand. I wish we had an HR person, but we haven't for years.
Also, unless (and even if) everyone is roaring with laughter, you don't know how many other people that it's making uncomfortable. I'm not saying like, you have to be a hero, but it might be a case that you start to speak and your boss is like "oh yeah you're the 4th person to bring this up."

Or you could go the other way and just say to her face "I don't find your racist jokes funny, please don't share them with me any more."
 
This may have tangible consequences for your organization if she accidentally does it before she's fully hung up the phone.
Or someone is touring the office (be it a prospective employee, client, or investor). It's extremely unprofessional, putting aside the fact that it's making you uncomfortable (and creating a potentially hostile work environment).

Also, if your company refuses to hire someone that speaks poor English, or is Asian, and they get wind of this, couldn't it be used to help litigate? That's a big part of why HR would care.
 
That's horrible!! You have every right to a workplace free of racist jokes. The only thing before you can go much further with your concerns, is that you may have to confront the person and tell them the behavior isn't ok.

I hate this part of the process :(
 
That's horrible!! You have every right to a workplace free of racist jokes. The only thing before you can go much further with your concerns, is that you may have to confront the person and tell them the behavior isn't ok.

I hate this part of the process :(
Here the idea is to get an issue reported and documented first so bosses know what's going on. But I never can tell how an atmosphere is.

As it is...

Also, unless (and even if) everyone is roaring with laughter, you don't know how many other people that it's making uncomfortable. I'm not saying like, you have to be a hero, but it might be a case that you start to speak and your boss is like "oh yeah you're the 4th person to bring this up."
This was my wife's argument on why I should say something, because everyone has been quiet.

and now that I met in private with my manager, she didn't give me details on who or what, but that she's had other people report that they've felt insulted by this co-worker, so I'm glad it's not just me.

Managers are going to meet and discuss how to approach co-worker.

And about 40 minutes after my talk with manager, co-worker starts making fun of veterans with PTSD, at which point the managers went into a meeting.
 
That's horrible!! You have every right to a workplace free of racist jokes. The only thing before you can go much further with your concerns, is that you may have to confront the person and tell them the behavior isn't ok.

I hate this part of the process :(
i had this happen, one of our other department managers cracked a joke about his subordinate, Eddie, dude is "brown", his family is from somewhere in central america, Eddie is a naturalized US citizen. atp i dont even know the joke anymore, but i heard him tell Eddie something about going back to his own country and general assery. Told MY department manager i was going to see the chiefs(our leadership), the 3 of them and HR happen to be talking at the time. Our big chief, who is a good natured dude, but is ultra mega serious, did not make a happy face when i made my report and complaint. he told me to in no uncertain terms that he thanked me for bringing it to his attention. I went back to my department and I watched the 3 chiefs converge on the other department managers office. when the dude confirmed he had indeed told the joke they informed him that he was no longer welcome with the company.(found out the last part from Eddie)
 
i had this happen, one of our other department managers cracked a joke about his subordinate, Eddie, dude is "brown", his family is from somewhere in central america, Eddie is a naturalized US citizen. atp i dont even know the joke anymore, but i heard him tell Eddie something about going back to his own country and general assery. Told MY department manager i was going to see the chiefs(our leadership), the 3 of them and HR happen to be talking at the time. Our big chief, who is a good natured dude, but is ultra mega serious, did not make a happy face when i made my report and complaint. he told me to in no uncertain terms that he thanked me for bringing it to his attention. I went back to my department and I watched the 3 chiefs converge on the other department managers office. when the dude confirmed he had indeed told the joke they informed him that he was no longer welcome with the company.(found out the last part from Eddie)
To be fair, I don't think one off-color, racist, sexist, insensitive, whatever, joke is necessarily grounds for immediate dismissal. Everyone can have a lapse of judgement or have a joke go horribly wrong. Stern talking to, warning, that sort of thing, and if it's repeated behavior, definitely. But, you know, I do hope he wasn't fired *just* for one wrong joke to the wrong guy, with an otherwise stellar work record and so on. In Zero Esc's case, it's clearly a pattern and she doesn't see the racism in it (queue "racism is only white-to-black, what are you talking about?" obnoxiousness/cluelessness).
 
Yeah firing seems a bit brutal, but I'm guessing that department manager had a history.
i never saw him do it in the past but i do know he called me a couple of things that would be considered sexism? if you were gay, im not so I laughed it off as him being an ignorant prick.
 
For a while I was laughing about how minor these things are compared to the stuff I've seen, now I'm just sad to have seen the things I've seen.
 
My intent isn't to get anyone fired; just for co-worker to knock it off.

After the managers met, they had her in an office for 5 minutes, and since then she's been mostly quiet. I have a feeling they didn't talk to her about anything specific so much as that she spends most days talking loudly almost non-stop and that it's become obnoxious and disruptive. Which was a different problem, one I figured I'd just have to put up with, but apparently not.

Whatever; two birds, one stone. We're not being paid to talk. Or be on Halforums, so woooooosh
 
For a while I was laughing about how minor these things are compared to the stuff I've seen, now I'm just sad to have seen the things I've seen.
I worked an assembly line for a few years out of highschool. I'm sure it was tame compared to some work environments, but you never really forget the crass stuff some people emit - and the women on the line could hold their own in that regard, lest anyone assume it was an all male line.
 

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FCC paper pusher's giving me a headache. Nothing worse than a bureaucrat with the power to put you out of business for arbitrary/asinine reasons.
 
Well, I thought that was over, but my boss who wasn't supposed to be in today showed up this afternoon, took co-worker into an office, and was pretty loud for 10 minutes. Then he left work again.

I guess I should mention our boss is Asian? He was not happy, but hopefully that'll be the end of it.

I wanna know this isn't anywhere close to the worst racism I've been around--that would be the guy when I was in high school who kept trying to tell jokes about killing black people, then months later was expelled after he planted a bomb under the porch of a black family in town--but I still don't want to have to deal with this shit at work. I've been here almost nine years, coworker has been here less than 6 months. I'm just lucky I work at a place that gave a damn.[DOUBLEPOST=1477512475,1477511988][/DOUBLEPOST]
This may have tangible consequences for your organization if she accidentally does it before she's fully hung up the phone.
Oh, BTW thanks bhamv for this. I thanked my manager for caring, but relaying this is probably why she thanked me and I doubt I'd have thought of it myself.
 
Here the idea is to get an issue reported and documented first so bosses know what's going on. But I never can tell how an atmosphere is.

As it is...



This was my wife's argument on why I should say something, because everyone has been quiet.

and now that I met in private with my manager, she didn't give me details on who or what, but that she's had other people report that they've felt insulted by this co-worker, so I'm glad it's not just me.

Managers are going to meet and discuss how to approach co-worker.

And about 40 minutes after my talk with manager, co-worker starts making fun of veterans with PTSD, at which point the managers went into a meeting.
I was at the receiving end of some nasty comments about my health issues from both a subordinate and my boss (nasty lady who since left). Because I am a manager, it put me in a gross spot for both. I had many issues with my boss in addition to the health remarks as I am sure I posted about.

HR, LR and the nasty boss-lady didn't seem to care that I was the target of discriminatory remarks, but when I mentioned what the subordinate said about another person and that she was harassing another of my employees about something else, then and only then did they care. I was forced to confront the person who said the stuff to me, was forbidden to raise it any further and had to work closely with her and her hostile attitude towards me for months. The employee who said all this to me was all shocked that I called her on her shit and then that I didn't want to hang out with her anymore after....

I called nasty boss lady's boss to discuss her treatment of me because he is our "Workplace Wellness Champion" in addition to his other duties. He couldn't have cared less. In fact, on a later phone call where I was asking for more information about her and her antics, he actually was mad at me for having a problem with how she treated me.

HR wouldn't discuss it with me.

LR advised me to confront her and document it. I confronted her on some issues, but I didn't get to confront her on the rest before I went off. She often interrupted me and told me to stop talking. She has actually said to me "Why are we still discussing this? I don't want to."

I guess I needed to get that all out!! Sorry for the novel.
 
I worked an assembly line for a few years out of highschool. I'm sure it was tame compared to some work environments, but you never really forget the crass stuff some people emit - and the women on the line could hold their own in that regard, lest anyone assume it was an all male line.
Kati used to work at a place where they did injection molding and flocking.
She tells stories.

--Patrick
 
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