Former President Trump Thread

Let's see if we can't see triple digits in Trump's presidency.
Of course not, it'll all be zeroes because he'll decriminalize the lot.[DOUBLEPOST=1484903321,1484903187][/DOUBLEPOST]Really, if his view on the debt is "we can just print more money", I wouldn't be surprised if his view on criminality is "we can just change the laws".
 
Of course not, it'll all be zeroes because he'll decriminalize the lot.[DOUBLEPOST=1484903321,1484903187][/DOUBLEPOST]Really, if his view on the debt is "we can just print more money", I wouldn't be surprised if his view on criminality is "we can just change the laws".
That's pretty much been the theory on gun laws for the last few decades. "We'll just make (whatever specific types) illegal! That'll keep them out of the hands of criminals!"
 
That's pretty much been the theory on gun laws for the last few decades. "We'll just make (whatever specific types) illegal! That'll keep them out of the hands of criminals!"
Law isn't so much about keeping it out of the hand of a criminal, but to make a criminal out of a person that owns those guns.[DOUBLEPOST=1484922401,1484922365][/DOUBLEPOST]
Man I liked George H.W. Bush.
And you still can.
 
Law isn't so much about keeping it out of the hand of a criminal, but to make a criminal out of a person that owns those guns
If they don't properly register them and have a permit.

Really, there's very few people calling for an all-out ban on guns*, most people on the "more control" side just want a clearer view who has what and which one, and make sure the people who own things are capable of taking care of them/using them properly. Saying "to own a rot gun, you first need to complete a basic gun maintenance course" isn't excessive, and "the government knowing who has what gun" does not break the second amendment. And considering voter ID law views of the right, having one spot per state where you can register those guns isn't a problem, either :awesome:


*for specific definitions of "guns" and "very few"
 

Dave

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He gave us Roger Ailes and Lee Atwater.

Best thing you can say about Atwater is he's dead.


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I was in the military at the time and he's the last guy I remember that talked about how much he liked the military and actually did things that matched the words. Since him people get all "Rah rah!" about the military while cutting funding to the VA or doing things that actively hurt the common soldier. Not the upper crust brass, mind you, just the soldiers.
 
I hate this country and its all I can think about today. We faced an incredibly easy test and we failed with flying colors.

If I had any sense of balls id move but I don't.
 
It seems the same as when Obama was first elected. So many people projected their ideas onto his message of change. Now we're seeing it swing the other way.
Except most people weren't projecting things on Obama that were EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE of what he said.
 
Except most people weren't projecting things on Obama that were EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE of what he said.
Yeah, they were. The one that i remember most was his stance on military actions. Many thought he was going to stop the drone strikes and military operations, when many times during the campaign he said otherwise.
 

Dave

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Not surprising. He's most popular with those least able to afford to take a day off from work and go to Washington DC.
 
Also, and I don't like seemingly defending Trump in any way, they're shots from a different angle. Comparing shots taken from the same angle the difference is much less pronounced.
It's the same place just opposite sides. The mob in the first picture goes well past the end of the people in the second one.

I was about to say that. It is a workday.
Sounds like an excuse for someone being too low-energy. Sad!
 

Dave

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Obama won more urban while Trump cleaned up in poor, rural areas. Rural people who are economically depressed will have a harder time getting away and going to DC. Not sure why everyone is acting like this is a big thing. You KNOW I'm not a Trump guy, but let's keep the focus on real things.
 
It's the same place just opposite sides. The mob in the first picture goes well past the end of the people in the second one.

Sounds like an excuse for someone being too low-energy. Sad!
I've been there, you know, I know where the two spots are. Still doesn't change that if you actually look at shots that are both from the Washington Monument, the difference is less pronounced. There's definitely a lot less people there.
 
Like how we're about to enter that couple of minute gap where the last term ended and the President Elect hasn't been sworn in.

[edit] false worry, they moved pretty quickly.
 
Also, random thought of the day that floated past my FB timeline: if anything happens at inauguration today, the Special Service will have to shout "Donald, Duck!"
 

GasBandit

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Obama won more urban while Trump cleaned up in poor, rural areas. Rural people who are economically depressed will have a harder time getting away and going to DC. Not sure why everyone is acting like this is a big thing. You KNOW I'm not a Trump guy, but let's keep the focus on real things.
You're arguing against the tide in the official Halforums Butthurt Strategic Reserve.
 

Dave

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While the inaugural speech had a few digs in it about the Obamas, I thought it was a much better speech than anyone expected. It absolutely screams isolationist theocracy, but it's what the people voted for (yes, I know he lost the popular vote, but he did win based on strategic voting blocks). He said he was going to write it himself and to this I seriously, SERIOUSLY have my doubts. But for once he relied on teleprompters and stuck to the script. He should have done this long ago.
 
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Yup, what I really noticed was the nation-level selfishness. On the one hand, the USA isn't just another kid on the playground, you're special, you're the teacher; on the other hand, you're only going to look out for yourself, care for yourself, and protect yourself, all the small kids be damned. If allying temporarily with the playground bully (Russia) helps make your own position even stronger, no problem.
Of course the President is the President. But over the last few decades, he's also been the Leader of the Free World. President trump has made it very clear that's not his job and he doesn't want it. All former presidents in my living memory - Bush senior and onward - have mentioned allies, working together, making the world a better place. Yes, even GWB, even if it was more "with select allies" than "in wide open alliances". Has Trump mentioned anything besides America? Nope (well, maybe - to be fair, I was watching at work and taking calls during his speech so I might've missed something). It's a valid choice, sure, and it's what people voted for. Still, being the biggest and strongest and saying "morality, realpolitik nor long-time bonds are going to make me lift a finger unless there's short-term gain in it for me" is...Something.
 
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