[Movies] Talk about the last movie you saw 2: Electric Threadaloo

I saw Ghost in the Shell last night. The visuals are nice, but it really suffers in that it's a really dumbed down version of the property. There is a lot of time spent spelling out the themes of the line between human and machine and the issue between individualism and collectivism, and other times where they clumsily handle their ideas. In fact, one of the earliest things they do in the film is pretty much spell out exactly what the title means.
 
Life

It's ok. Some nicely tense moments, and the visuals were good, but it's also a very "safe" movie in that it breaks no new ground and offers no real surprises or twists. It's basically Alien with a new alien.
I saw that too. It was satisfactory but not great.
 
Life

Yeah, I'd agree that it was a "safe" movie. Nothing outright bad, but nothing phenomenal. Some good effects, good camera work (and the occasional beautiful space shots), but overall a throwaway movie.

It's a shame they got so many good actors for the movie because the writing for their characters felt rather dull. The movie kept pushing these heartfelt moments, like towards the end between two characters, but it just fell flat for me.

I don't regret seeing it, but not sure if it was worth seeing in theaters.
 
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Took my oldest two to see Your Name yesterday. It's a great movie and it's no wonder it got the reception in Japan that it did.

A real roller coaster of emotions though.

It will be interesting to see how it does in the US, being anime.
 

Dave

Staff member
Watched Kong last night. Not sure if it was because I paused it a lot to do other things or what, but I found the actions of the people to be unconvincingly stupid. Especially Sam's character. It was okay I guess. Better than the 1976 or 2005 movies, but that's a low bar.
 
Viewed, all by myself..., Doctor Strange last night. Visually interesting movie, but the first of the MCU movies that failed to really capture me. Never been a big DS fan, so the origin story was perfectly fine. But the way the movie was edited made it seem like so much of this took place in just a couple of months time. I'm sure I'll watch it again, to find things that I missed, but not sure that I really like Doctor Sherlock Cumberbatch as this Doctor.
 
Watched Kong last night. Not sure if it was because I paused it a lot to do other things or what, but I found the actions of the people to be unconvincingly stupid. Especially Sam's character. It was okay I guess. Better than the 1976 or 2005 movies, but that's a low bar.
It's on DVD already? Sheesh, that was a lightning turn-around. It didn't do bad in theaters, so I thought it would take at least a couple months.
 
Watched Kong last night. Not sure if it was because I paused it a lot to do other things or what, but I found the actions of the people to be unconvincingly stupid. Especially Sam's character. It was okay I guess. Better than the 1976 or 2005 movies, but that's a low bar.
On the way out I said to my friend I'd seen it with "Was it just me or did everyone seem important until the movie deemed they weren't and decided it was time to kill them?"

Absolutly agree that Sam Jackson's character was stupid. I didn't buy his motivation at all. I need something to fight and need a fight cause I'm a war man and that's what war men do. I can't take Hiddleston serious as an action hero either, but the gas mask scene was very pretty.

That said I loved that in contrast to the more recent Godzilla, you at least got lots of great Kong visuals in this all through out the movie rather than just the last 3rd. Also I love me some Jonh C Reilly and thought he stole the show.
 
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Kubo and the Two Strings was added to Netflix last week, so I got to watch the whole thing this time.

Now that I've rewatched it and Zootopia within a couple weeks of each other, I'm a little more conflicted over whether Zootopia deserved the Oscar, whereas before I was certain. Not that it matters. Just sucks that Laika can make a beautiful movie like this, for it to not only fail commercially, but at least from my theatrical screening be a complete miss with kids.
 
Kubo isn't for kids. Which is probably why it did so poorly - adults see the cartoonish stop motion, assume it's for kids, and the kids just aren't interested.

It's a beautiful complex story, but I never got the impression they were trying for the kids audience. I think that was a specific choice, rather than an accident of those who wrote the thing.

laika has definitely raised the bar for stop motion, though. Amazing work.

That said, I don't know that it deserves the oscar more than zootopia. Certain aspects of it are clearly better, but zootopia was strong in almost every measure.

That said, I bought kubo, paying extra to get the 3D version, but haven't purchased zootopia. Zootopia is relatively safe, and doesn't have much below its surface, so while repeat viewings are fun, they aren't necessary to get all the messages the creators of it put in.
 
Kubo isn't for kids. Which is probably why it did so poorly - adults see the cartoonish stop motion, assume it's for kids, and the kids just aren't interested.

It's a beautiful complex story, but I never got the impression they were trying for the kids audience. I think that was a specific choice, rather than an accident of those who wrote the thing.

laika has definitely raised the bar for stop motion, though. Amazing work.

That said, I don't know that it deserves the oscar more than zootopia. Certain aspects of it are clearly better, but zootopia was strong in almost every measure.

That said, I bought kubo, paying extra to get the 3D version, but haven't purchased zootopia. Zootopia is relatively safe, and doesn't have much below its surface, so while repeat viewings are fun, they aren't necessary to get all the messages the creators of it put in.
Well, I'm not saying it does or doesn't deserve it either; more that before I was certain Zootopia deserved it, and now I'm less sure.

I agree that it's not for kids, but is kid-friendly, and I kinda thought that kids would in large part watch whatever animated movie you put in front of them. Like it or not, that depends on the kid, but that they'd at least watch it. Nope, I was wrong. "I'm booooored." "Mommy. Mommy. Mommy, let's go." "I wanna go home." I've been to a lot of kids movies, both as a kid and as an adult, and I've never listened to kids in a theater reject a movie so much.
 
Anecdotally there were plenty of kids that left my showing of Kubo that loved it. It's also worth noting that I live in Vancouver, the general population being asian, and that may have had a hand in the success seeing as it was at least tangentially inspired by that culture.
 
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Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

It holds up really, really well and looks great on Blu-Ray. There's only 2 things I'd cut from the movie. The whole Bor Gullet thing, since that doesn't really go anywhere, and CGI Leia's face. Just having her from the back (oo-er Missus!) would have worked as well.
 
Babadook

I liked it...but I'm not gonna lie-
I was hoping the Babadook wasn't actually real, and it was all in the mom's head. Hell, I remember her saying she did children's books before, it would've been a neat twist if SHE was the one to write the book.
 

GasBandit

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Babadook

I liked it...but I'm not gonna lie-
I was hoping the Babadook wasn't actually real, and it was all in the mom's head. Hell, I remember her saying she did children's books before, it would've been a neat twist if SHE was the one to write the book.
I'll forever be grateful to the Babadook for giving me this GIF to post.

 
Babadook

I liked it...but I'm not gonna lie-
I was hoping the Babadook wasn't actually real, and it was all in the mom's head. Hell, I remember her saying she did children's books before, it would've been a neat twist if SHE was the one to write the book.
The babadook was an allegory for loss.
 
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The Shallows

A shark fails to respect Blake Lively's personal space.

All in all, I'd say it's a competently made film, but there's not too much that's memorable about it. The scares are moderate, the gore is moderate, the plot doesn't offer many surprises or twists, and Blake Lively's character is used as a character and not as fanservice, which is a good thing for most people but rather disappointing for perverts like me. Not a bad movie, but ultimately not going to be one I remember long-term.
 

Dave

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The Great Wall.

Okay, this movie took me about two days to finish watching. This is not a bad movie. It's not a good movie either. It's more of a "well that was something" kind of movie. I had several issues with the whole thing that did NOT include whitewashing. But I'll leave them be for now since I don't want to spoiler it for people.
 
The Great Wall.

Okay, this movie took me about two days to finish watching. This is not a bad movie. It's not a good movie either. It's more of a "well that was something" kind of movie. I had several issues with the whole thing that did NOT include whitewashing. But I'll leave them be for now since I don't want to spoiler it for people.
Re: Whitewashing

The movie was made in China by a Chinese production company. So it's hard to say that the casting was motivated by racism.
 
Re: Whitewashing

The movie was made in China by a Chinese production company. So it's hard to say that the casting was motivated by racism.
The best explanation I've heard for why they cast Damon is now that Western movies have been widely distributed throughout China and thoroughly made domestic big budget efforts look ridiculous, the best way to market a movie to their own domestic audience is to include a famous white actor in a major role. This also makes the movie more viable for export because people outside of Asia are less likely to watch a movie from there unless it...

- is a kung fu movie
or
- stars a famous actor they already know

So the only prayer that had for any kind of viewership outside of the region was to include a big name Western actor in a role.
 
Was going to post that, but you gave it more detail.

There's still been calls about whitewashing. And it was written by white people.
Some stuff is whitewashed--Last Airbender, Ghost in the Shell--and some isn't but gets accused of it--Great Wall, Iron Fist. What all of these have in common is that none of them were considered all that great anyway, so even casting a different ethnicity in the leads wouldn't have helped any of them.

I'm just glad Ghost in the Shell bombed, because whatever it's true quality, it'll hopefully destroy any chance of live-action Akira.
 
Only non-Chinese people were concerned about whitewashing in a Chinese-directed and produced film. Chinese did not give a single fuck. I guarantee you that no one is going to tell Zhang-motherfuckin-Yimou that he has to cast a Western actor if he does not want to cast a Western actor. This whole debacle is another example of White Knights rushing to the defense of people who neither want or need their defense.
 
Only non-Chinese people were concerned about whitewashing in a Chinese-directed and produced film. Chinese did not give a single fuck. I guarantee you that no one is going to tell Zhang-motherfuckin-Yimou that he has to cast a Western actor if he does not want to cast a Western actor. This whole debacle is another example of White Knights rushing to the defense of people who neither want or need their defense.
I think Gas made a good point that it's largely Asian-American actors who feel (and often are) shafted by the Hollywood system.
 
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