Former President and Convicted Felon Trump Thread

And yet they will be attacked for staying away from the disaster scene FOR THIS VERY REASON. Obama was explicitly asked to stay home from one particular incident that otherwise escapes memory, yet that didn't stop a long argument in here about him not going.
I think that was Superstorm Sandy. He stayed away from the Jersey Shore for a couple extra days until the situation under the ground was more contained and his visit wouldn't have been as disruptive to active rescue efforts. Fox News, of course, attacked him for dragging his feet in going there.
 
http://digg.com/2017/trump-what-a-crowd-what-a-turnout

President Trump flew down to Texas on Tuesday as Houston struggles to deal with widespread flooding and stranded residents. Speaking to a crowd in Corpus Christi after being briefed on the situation, Trump did not mention those who lost their lives or their homes in Harvey, but did mention the size of the crowd.
What does he care about people who've died or lost their homes? Trump's a shitty real estate "mogul." He's probably reveling in all of the lost homes, hoping to setup a development firm in Texas with one of his sons and buy up all the land then sell it back to people at 500%.
 
It's a photo op, nothing but a fucking photo op...
To be 100% fair here, that was before they took off for the disaster zone. Here's a photo after getting OFF the plane. Apparently she changed en-route:
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I stand by my previous comments agreeing with you Dark about the whole damned thing being a photo-op, and that's typical (and useless) for politicians, but the outrage over shoes? Really? When it wasn't even real?
 
Of course outrage over shoes, when it isn't even real.
95% of all things the media and/or social media buzz about these days simply isn't real - or is, if not fabricated, blown out of proportion.
I don't mean to say "MSM is FALSE NEWS", but...From all sides of the spectrum, everyone is always demonizing everyone over everything. Pictures from 2010? The shoes they wear? The way they once addressed a child? No matter! Attacks away!
Be it birthers, or pizza kiddie porn rings, or KKK connections, or e-mails; things take on life and meaning they really shouldn't have.


(To be honest, though, brand new white sneakers aren't great shoes to go wading around in, either :p)
 
Of course outrage over shoes, when it isn't even real.
95% of all things the media and/or social media buzz about these days simply isn't real - or is, if not fabricated, blown out of proportion.
I don't mean to say "MSM is FALSE NEWS", but...From all sides of the spectrum, everyone is always demonizing everyone over everything. Pictures from 2010? The shoes they wear? The way they once addressed a child? No matter! Attacks away!
Be it birthers, or pizza kiddie porn rings, or KKK connections, or e-mails; things take on life and meaning they really shouldn't have.
I agree. And it's to the detriment of all. IMO it's related to that Bill Mahar statement about how the left has demonized every GOP candidate since Bush Jr. (at least) and so when somebody truly horrific came along (Trump) that everybody was desensitized to the warnings because it all sounded the same.

If everything's a scandal, nothing is anymore.
(To be honest, though, brand new white sneakers aren't great shoes to go wading around in, either :p)
I'd be shocked if EITHER of them were wading around in anything. I'd actually call that dumb from a security/safety perspective.
 
That may be so, but I remember Bush getting a ton of criticism for the FEMA fiasco after Katrina.
For Katrina, everyone knew that it would be bad for days. Bush went to a party, and hired a dog catcher(exaggeration, he did not have that much experience) to be the head of FEMA. So when everything hit the fan, a lot of it fell back in his lap. A fair bit of the blame really wasn't on him, but he definitely screwed up on that storm.[DOUBLEPOST=1504103171,1504103034][/DOUBLEPOST]Trump came to Texas, glad handed some rescue workers, offered help, said some platitudes. I'd give him an 75% on the handling of the situation.
 
Trump came to Texas, glad handed some rescue workers, offered help, said some platitudes. I'd give him an 75% on the handling of the situation.
What in your opinion should he have done different/more? I don't mean that flippantly, but considering my opinion of what heads of state (and related) should do that I said above (ie: stand by the phone and say "yes" when the people on the ground want money), what in your opinion should Trump have done differently here to get him above 75%?
 
What in your opinion should he have done different/more? I don't mean that flippantly, but considering my opinion of what heads of state (and related) should do that I said above (ie: stand by the phone and say "yes" when the people on the ground want money), what in your opinion should Trump have done differently here to get him above 75%?
Drown.
 
What in your opinion should he have done different/more? I don't mean that flippantly, but considering my opinion of what heads of state (and related) should do that I said above (ie: stand by the phone and say "yes" when the people on the ground want money), what in your opinion should Trump have done differently here to get him above 75%?
Address loss of life, don't talk about your year old win in the election, you know, don't be an asshole.
 
I can't see Trump as a "comforting victims" type. It's best that he not try to be. So in that case the best he can do in these situations is stay far, far away. Otherwise you get the ego fapping you saw yesterday.
 
IMO, the president (any of them not just Trump) has no fucking business being in the same state during and right after a disaster. The place is in chaos. The local authorities are beyond overwhelmed. They don't need a jackoff politician mucking about making speeches. Stay out of the way unless you can fly a helicopter or do something useful.
 
It is political suicide not to make an appearance. There is a lot that they can do. There is nothing like showing somebody why billions of dollars will need to be spent.
 
Also, it sort of depends on the type of leader. The President combines head of state with head of government. Most modern monarchs, for example, don't.
Our King (and Queen) tend to make an appearance on national disaster sites, but they don't actually have much to do. Their job is to comfort and aid the victims, bring some (media) attention to the event, perhaps "help" with their own funds and/or volunteer organisation.
Prime minister etc have more functions to fullfill and their job isn't to go around holding hands, but to coordinate and organise.
 
Also, it sort of depends on the type of leader. The President combines head of state with head of government. Most modern monarchs, for example, don't.
Our King (and Queen) tend to make an appearance on national disaster sites, but they don't actually have much to do. Their job is to comfort and aid the victims, bring some (media) attention to the event, perhaps "help" with their own funds and/or volunteer organisation.
Prime minister etc have more functions to fullfill and their job isn't to go around holding hands, but to coordinate and organise.
So, you're saying the U.S. needs a hugger of the people (HOTP)? Are you volunteering?
 
Rumor now is that with the nation's attention on Houston, Trump is going to end DACA. For those who don't know, this is essentially a program that lets kids who were brought here young illegally without any say in it and grew up in the U.S. stay here.

I'm hoping this is a baseless rumor, as earlier in the year Trump seemed against canning the program, but who the hell knows anymore.
 
Rumor now is that with the nation's attention on Houston, Trump is going to end DACA. For those who don't know, this is essentially a program that lets kids who were brought here young illegally without any say in it and grew up in the U.S. stay here.

I'm hoping this is a baseless rumor, as earlier in the year Trump seemed against canning the program, but who the hell knows anymore.
He actually needs Congressional support to do this one, I think, and it's clear Congress doesn't have his back right now.
 

Dave

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Open enrollment for the ACA starts November 1. Trump cut the enrollment period in half, the advertisement budget by 90+%, and the amount of people who can answer calls by 50%. We can't repeal and replace we'll just make it more difficult for people to join so the thing implodes, causing hurt for everyone.
 
Open enrollment for the ACA starts November 1. Trump cut the enrollment period in half, the advertisement budget by 90+%, and the amount of people who can answer calls by 50%. We can't repeal and replace we'll just make it more difficult for people to join so the thing implodes, causing hurt for everyone.
When enrollment drops as a result of his actions, he will turn around and say "See? No one wants the ACA anymore!"
 
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