I like the premise but disagree with his examples. I'll have to think on it a bit, though.
Kylo doesn't actually say it, though. Kylo says "you already know who your parents are," and it's Rey that says they were nobodies.My guess is Kylo is lying about Rey's parentage anyway. What reason does the audience have to believe him? A lie is motivated and believable here.
Oh shit. I thought what Fade thought.Kylo doesn't actually say it, though. Kylo says "you already know who your parents are," and it's Rey that says they were nobodies.
That was one of a few scenes that took me out of the moment. They might as well have broken the fourth wall while they said the line and winked.It's funny, I told my brother-in-law it felt like Empire only with a ton of stuff inverted "Rey being a nobody rather then revealed as the kid of someone important, the "Hoth" battle happening at the climax, etc...
I actually laughed for some reason when they had that one filler scene in which this rebel guy walks out and his footsteps turn the ground red, and one another guy reaches down and takes a taste and is like "Salt". I can just imagine Johnson, "HAHA SEE!? It's a SALT PLANET NOT AN ICE PLANET!" That is pretty much the only reason that scene exists, to once again fuck with people's first impression.
Pretty sure that scene is there so that the audience notices people leave red footprints, so when someone doesn't...It's funny, I told my brother-in-law it felt like Empire only with a ton of stuff inverted "Rey being a nobody rather then revealed as the kid of someone important, the "Hoth" battle happening at the climax, etc...
I actually laughed for some reason when they had that one filler scene in which this rebel guy walks out and his footsteps turn the ground red, and one another guy reaches down and takes a taste and is like "Salt". I can just imagine Johnson, "HAHA SEE!? It's a SALT PLANET NOT AN ICE PLANET!" That is pretty much the only reason that scene exists, to once again fuck with people's first impression.
Never disagreed with that part.Either way, both are pretty good examples of how this movie overexplained things.
Talk about a milk spoiler.
ftfy, but most times they are synonyms anyway.I guess the Last Jedi did to Luke what Superman Returns did to the big boy scout. Just seeing your hero turned into aphenomenal loserperson is a bit jarring.
Luke never struck me as this infallible hero. I thought his stoicness in RotJ was far more out of character. *shrug*I guess the Last Jedi did to Luke what Superman Returns did to the big boy scout. Just seeing your hero turned into a phenomenal loser is a bit jarring.
There is a bit of difference from being human, and training all the Knights of Ren for Snoke. Then the ultra-uncomfortable milking of mammals that are just a little too into having their nipples pulled.ftfy, but most times they are synonyms anyway.
Kind of my thought. In what world is a deadbeat dad not a loser?Or mind wiping your ex and fleeing the planet so you don't have to raise your bastard child. Then there is the stalking
My thoughts on this are that Luke was never going to be a great Jedi. He didn't have a teacher/master long enough to learn. He had raw, natural power courtesy of being half-Skywalker, but he was never going to go God-mode. My thoughts are that the force project were the limits of his power and the end of the movie reflected that. Now we have the next generation which appear to have even more power and even less direction. It will be interesting to see what happens next.How does Luke Skywalker go from seeing good in the most evil space ninja to thinking about killing a kid? It doesn't add it up.
I guess my complaint for Luke does center on what my expectation were going to be. We got to see Vader in God-mode (like it or not) in Rogue One. It was a truly frightening scene. I wanted to see Luke in God-mode too. Master of the Force - more zen than Obi-wan in ANH, but more badass than the RotJ throne room fight scene.
If there was the Sith Devil's arsehole on that island why did he stay there? Go set up shop back on some Outer Rim mining planet or something.
Is Kylo Ren going to kill Han, Luke, and Leia single handedly? I know he didn't physically kill Luke, but it's nearly the same thing. He might as well fuck up Chewie too. Better yet turn Chewie into a rug or make a pelt coat out of him.
Maybe I am just too emotionally attached to the character, and I have play-acted and pretended to be Luke Skywalker so much growing up that seeing this version of him bothered me quite a bit. It bothers me way more than seeing Han die or Leia (since we know it's coming). Way more than seeing Luke himself disappear. I was numb to his death by the end of the movie. That all sounds really ridiculous. It is just a silly space movie after all.My thoughts on this are that Luke was never going to be a great Jedi. He didn't have a teacher/master long enough to learn. He had raw, natural power courtesy of being half-Skywalker, but he was never going to go God-mode. My thoughts are that the force project were the limits of his power and the end of the movie reflected that. Now we have the next generation which appear to have even more power and even less direction. It will be interesting to see what happens next.
It sounds like it did what it was supposed to do and deeply emotionally affected you.Maybe I am just too emotionally attached to the character, and I have play-acted and pretended to be Luke Skywalker so much growing up that seeing this version of him bothered me quite a bit. It bothers me way more than seeing Han die or Leia (since we know it's coming). Way more than seeing Luke himself disappear. I was numb to his death by the end of the movie. That all sounds really ridiculous. It is just a silly space movie after all.
That may be so, but it has done the opposite to my SW appetite. I was tentative about TFA, but was pleasantly surprised. I really enjoyed RO. Now, I don't want to see the Han Solo film or the Rian Johnson trilogy or Episode IX. I feel the same way I did after Episode II.It sounds like it did what it was supposed to do and deeply emotionally affected you.
I mean, the introduction of Jar Jar deeply incited emotions, too.[DOUBLEPOST=1515532723][/DOUBLEPOST]Also, so what? If Johnson wanted that reaction from me, that doesn't matter. Whether he intentionally invoked the reaction or not, it's the reaction itself that's the problem here.It sounds like it did what it was supposed to do and deeply emotionally affected you.
That may be so, but it has done the opposite to my SW appetite. I was tentative about TFA, but was pleasantly surprised. I really enjoyed RO. Now, I don't want to see the Han Solo film or the Rian Johnson trilogy or Episode IX. I feel the same way I did after Episode II.
I'm expecting it to show the origin of Snoke.I don't want to see the Han Solo movie just because I have no idea why it is being made. I like Han Solo lots, I don't need his backstory.
Is it a problem? If you find it problematic, that's fair, but why is that reaction, intended or not (and I believe it was intended) a problem?If Johnson wanted that reaction from me, that doesn't matter. Whether he intentionally invoked the reaction or not, it's the reaction itself that's the problem here.