General Empyrion Thread

Gared

Gared

It's about a third of the way done, and it's size class 5. I should still be able to keep it under size class 10, though, because the rest of the ship has more empty space versus the mostly solidly armored front section and core I've been working on thus far. And yes, this will be taking great advantage of the concepts of baffles, multiple armor levels, greatly separated turrets locked away behind shutter doors and ramps, and thoroughly armored thrusters.
 
PatrThom

PatrThom

GasBandit said:
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Hey, I'm the one over here trying to put together a RAID-Z2* for my basement. All I need now is the 5 drives.
Also my copy of Win8.1 showed up today, and it is exactly as advertised, i.e Retail Win8.1 Pro NFS.

--Patrick
The ZFS equivalent of a RAID6, i.e., NxStorage + 2xParity
 
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GasBandit

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Server status:
[X] Server arrived
[X] Verified that stuff works
[X] Replacement CPUs arrived
[ ] UPS arrived (Est Delivery 6/1)
[X] CPUs replaced, work
[ ] Operating system arrived (Est Delivery 6/4-6/7)
[X] Drivers needed for OS reinstall obtained
[ ] RAID reconfigured to 10
[ ] SSD received
[ ] PCI SSD card received
[ ] SSD installed
[ ] Operating System reinstalled
[ ] Ancillary software installed (Teamviewer, Steam)
[ ] Moved home (THIS THING IS HEAVY AF MY SHELF MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO HANDLE IT)
[ ] Empyrion Dedicated server configured

Meantime I've already managed to booger up the existing Win2016 Eval installation by trying to trick it into thinking it was standard via powershell, lawl. I'd reinstall Eval (after rebuilding the RAID as type 10), but the image is 7 gigs and I don't have a USB that big >_< ordered one, should get here thursday. Fat lotta good it'll do then, might as well wait out the weekend for the actual OS. No, I'll probably install it just because I'm antsy....

Edit - changed to reflect SSD now instead of raid 10.
 
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PatrThom

PatrThom

If you're going Win7 then I sure hope that USB stick is 2.0 and your total volume size is < 2TB (and MBR - Stupid legacy limitations).
Also, I thought "UPS 6/1" meant the shipping company and wondered what they would be delivering. Here's hoping it's SNMP-capable.

EDIT: Yes, @GasBandit, I know you probably already know this stuff, but just making sure after the 2016 eval thing.

--Patrick
 
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Gared

Gared

<sigh> What's the size class maximum for Renntech, again? Eva seems to think it's 15. I hope it's 15, because I cannot finish this ship in 10.
 
GasBandit

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Gared said:
<sigh> What's the size class maximum for Renntech, again? Eva seems to think it's 15. I hope it's 15, because I cannot finish this ship in 10.
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I know you asked me in discord, but for the folks at home, the rules say 20, Evasong says 15, and Iceman said in elders discord chat that when alpha 8 hits he wants to lower it to 10.

PatrThom said:
If you're going Win7 then I sure hope that USB stick is 2.0 and your total volume size is < 2TB (and MBR - Stupid legacy limitations).
Also, I thought "UPS 6/1" meant the shipping company and wondered what they would be delivering. Here's hoping it's SNMP-capable.

EDIT: Yes, @GasBandit, I know you probably already know this stuff, but just making sure after the 2016 eval thing.

--Patrick
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I am, it is, and it will be. It'll be 300 gigs, as a raid 10 - like I said, I got 4 300 gig drives. Though, I don't know if the limitation is really a factor, since the raid controller is pre-bios hardware (PERC 6/i).

I Don't know if the UPS is SNMP or not, I don't care, it's just to fight power fluctuations mostly :p

As for the eval thing, it's just because I didn't read the fine print.
 
Gared

Gared

Alright, I found a lot of the problem device count wise - I have two massive broadside gun bays that are hidden behind ramps, and since ramps aren't airtight, I had corrected that "problem" with forcefield generator blocks. The bay openings are four blocks high, so I had to use 1x3 and 1x1 blocks down a massive length of ship. I think pulling those out removed something like 160 devices from the ship and dropped me back down to 10. I figure if I remove some excess lights, shorten the ship by a third, and stick to the simpler upper-hull design that I currently have on the starboard side, I'll be able to pull it in at under 10 total, if I'm really careful. Of course, the limits that Iceman wants to use on his server post 8.0 are of limited interest to me. Mainly, I'm concerned with what the limits are you're going to impose on your server, and what idea you have -if any - for a setting.
 
GasBandit

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Gared said:
Alright, I found a lot of the problem device count wise - I have two massive broadside gun bays that are hidden behind ramps, and since ramps aren't airtight, I had corrected that "problem" with forcefield generator blocks. The bay openings are four blocks high, so I had to use 1x3 and 1x1 blocks down a massive length of ship. I think pulling those out removed something like 160 devices from the ship and dropped me back down to 10. I figure if I remove some excess lights, shorten the ship by a third, and stick to the simpler upper-hull design that I currently have on the starboard side, I'll be able to pull it in at under 10 total, if I'm really careful. Of course, the limits that Iceman wants to use on his server post 8.0 are of limited interest to me. Mainly, I'm concerned with what the limits are you're going to impose on your server, and what idea you have -if any - for a setting.
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I'm going to be having to feel things out as I go. I think, at first, we'll probably stick to defaults... which might actually mean NO limits at the beginning. We're going to have to see how much strain the server can take, after all, before I can start really dialing in things for the best balance of performance vs panache.
 
GasBandit

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PatrThom said:
...but 4x300 in a RAID 10 (or 01) will be 600GB? Still well under 2TB, though.

--Patrick
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No, it would be 300. Two 300s in a stripe make a 300, and then another two to mirror that stripe.

But plans are changing, I talked to a buddy of mine who's really good with this, and he sent me a really good deal on SSDs (see the games on sale thread), so I'm gonna get a 500 gig SSD, use that for the game server software, with backups made to the server's raid 5.
 
PatrThom

PatrThom

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No, it would be 300. Two 300s in a stripe make a 300, and then another two to mirror that stripe.
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No, 2x300 in a stripe = 600, and then another stripe to mirror = 600 total.
But yes I agree even a single SSD is going to be a better idea, what with the astronomical (heh) decrease in access time.

--Patrick
 
GasBandit

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PatrThom said:
No, 2x300 in a stripe = 600, and then another stripe to mirror = 600 total.
But yes I agree even a single SSD is going to be a better idea, what with the astronomical (heh) decrease in access time.

--Patrick
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Er, sorry, yeah, had a brain fart there. But yeah, it's all moot anyway.
 
Gared

Gared

And it's done. I'll have to find time later to do all the fancy photography and make the blueprint available and such, but for right now, she's a size class 10 (9.51) battleship that takes 34.5hr to spawn. Right now it's down to 9, an Aislynn is ferrying me to Yaral right now.
 
GasBandit

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Gared said:
And it's done. I'll have to find time later to do all the fancy photography and make the blueprint available and such, but for right now, she's a size class 10 (9.51) battleship that takes 34.5hr to spawn. Right now it's down to 9, an Aislynn is ferrying me to Yaral right now.
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Heh, nice... don't forget to stuff the rock dust back in the constructors and queue up a jillion more armored concrete blocks to replace the ones you take (the current batch should be in the cargo box behind the food processor).
 
GasBandit

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Gared said:
Gonna need a demon name.
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Here's my list (with stuff we've used already removed)

Adramelech
Moloch
Baphomet
Azazel
Malthus
Orobos (used, but lost in combat so it can be used again)
Belphegor
Behemoth
Dagon
Lucifer
Mephistophiles
Pazuzu
Rakshasa
Stheno
Asmodeus
Astaroth
Avernus
 
GasBandit

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And just for completeness' sake, here's the ones on the list we HAVE used already:
Legion
Belial
Azrael (not a demon, but an angel of destruction)
Leviathan
Orobos (destroyed, so available again)

Also, two of the CV battleships we got from SkN back during the alien wars were christened Trenchard's Revenge and Trenchard's Revenge II. I guess there's always room for Trenchard's Revenge III :p
 
Gared

Gared

And here (s)he is in Covenant Orbit - the Malphas.

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And the overhead shot for size comparison.
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Clocks in just under the size of the carrier, as it should be.
 
GasBandit

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She's all ready for cheesy battle.

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Though I'm thinking of renaming her the Weenie Cheese Sandwich, not the Cheesy Wiener Sandwich. That way I get a smegma joke in there too, for the extra punch :p
 
GasBandit

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I'm pretty sure he's in the dark about it. I quietly built it on the server last night, and ammo'd it up, while he was busy spawning npc monsters on noobs :p I can't wait to see his reaction too :p
 
GasBandit

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Incidentally, the night I "present" the Weenie Cheese Sandwich to Evasong won't be tonight... My router's going downhill fast. It keeps locking up and rebooting itself, which disconnects everything in my home from the internet for a good 30 seconds. Apparently last night around 3 am it started happening every 15 minutes or so. New router gets here tomorrow :/

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Any word on whether its release will change the price?

--Patrick
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No. But I doubt it'll ever get any cheaper than it is.
 
Gared

Gared

We've been tooling around trying to find a halfway decent Alpha 8 RC1 server to play on. So far I've struck out both times. Bugs-Universe lives up to its name, in that none of the trees can be harvested (or seen, by some people, like me), and there are no prey or predator creatures to kill to level up, so I'm just stuck on planet not able to level up enough to unlock the blueprints for the ships I can afford (mining doesn't seem to grant XP anymore). Unknown Skies public server is nicely populated, but keeps throwing server errors while you attempt to connect because the ping is over 200ms, and decided to drop my life pod in the middle of the ocean. So yay. Alpha 8 really seems to be about drawing out the survival experience and slowing down the early game. If that's the case, I will probably power through it as quickly as I can on-server so I never have to deal with it again.
 
Gared

Gared

Well, we found a server that we could start on, in vanilla mode. And, I gotta say, the survival aspect is taking way too much control of this game. I'm going back to 7.6.1 until 8.0 hits stable, and then we'll probably all need to log in at the same time to get to a point where we can reliably build a small, safe base.
 
Aislynn

Aislynn

..... We starved to death while waiting to freeze to death because a single plant monster was camping our portable constructor, which we had to put in the water, because two dozen rampaging spiders were waiting for us on shore. :confused:
 
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