Infinity War: SPOILER THREAD LIVES AGAIN

figmentPez

figmentPez

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An article talking about possible spoilers for Avengers 4 in leaked concept art also had a slideshow of the offscreen fates, due to Thanos, of certain characters as stated by the Russo brothers:

Uh, spoilers, I guess?
Dead:
- Betty Ross
- Lady Sif
- the actor who played Loki on Asgard (who was played by Matt Damon)

Alive:
- Howard the Duck (alive)
- Aunt May

Unknown:
- Shuri

Too spoilery
- Nakia (Black Panther)
- Ned (Spider-Man)
- Korg and Miek (Thor Ragnarok)
- Jane Foster
 
evilmike

evilmike

There is a list that has been in the news recently -- a breakdown of each character's screen time in Infinity War (imdb):
Thanos <29>
Gamora <19:30>
Tony Stark / Iron Man <18>
Thor <14:30>
Dr. Stephen Strange <11:30>
Peter Quill / Star-Lord <10:15>
Vision <9:45>
Wanda Maximoff / Scarlet Witch <9>
Dr. Bruce Banner / The Hulk <8:45>
Peter Parker / Spider-Man <7:30>
Steve Rogers <6:45>
Rocket <6>
Natasha Romanoff / Black Widow <5>
Drax <4:45>
Mantis <4:45>
Ebony Maw <4>
Proxima Midnight <3:45>
Cull Obsidian <3:45>
Corvus Glaive <3:30>
King T'Challa / Black Panther <3:30>
Groot II <3:15>
Nebula <3:15>
Okoye <3:15>
Loki <3:15>
Col. James "Rhodey" Rhodes / War Machine <3>
Eitri <2:45>
Wong <2:45>
Sam Wilson / Falcon <2:15>
James "Bucky" Barnes / White Wolf <2>
Pepper Potts <1:30>
The Stonekeeper <1:30>
Princess Shuri <1>
M'Baku <1>
Secretary Thaddeus Ross <1>
Nick Fury <1>
Maria Hill <:45>
Heimdall <:45>
Taneleer Tivan / The Collector <:45>
Ned Leeds <:15>

It touches on a point we discussed before the board reset -- how central Gamora was to the story. Thanos and the Infinity Stones are part of Gamora's background, and it was great to see the studio choose to go with the character that was dramatically appropriate rather than a character who was more popular. After all, it isn't hard to think of counter examples from other studios -- a Kitty Pride story that now is centered on Wolverine, or a Superman sequel that is all about Batman.
 
bhamv3

bhamv3

On r/marvelstudios, there's a running joke of adding the Immigrant Song to Thor's most epic scenes, such as his entrance into the final battle in Infinity War, his entrance into the fight early on in Thor 2, etc. Naturally, as Redditors are wont to do, they've been beating the joke into the ground:



Surprisingly, I think it works fairly well for this scene, actually.
 
evilmike

evilmike

bhamv3 said:
On r/marvelstudios, there's a running joke of adding the Immigrant Song to Thor's most epic scenes, such as his entrance into the final battle in Infinity War, his entrance into the fight early on in Thor 2, etc. Naturally, as Redditors are wont to do, they've been beating the joke into the ground:



Surprisingly, I think it works fairly well for this scene, actually.
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Have they gotten to this one yet?
 
ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Huh. I just realized something. Some complained Thor getting a hammer again in Infinity War undid his development in Ragnarok. Except...Odin said, "The hammer was help you control your power, to focus it. It was never the source of your power."

So Thor needed a new hammer not for more power, but for a new OUTLET for his power. He had plenty of power, but he needed something to help him focus it. Of course, it didn't help him focus on Thanos' head.
 
PatrThom

PatrThom

ThatNickGuy said:
Huh. I just realized something. Some complained Thor getting a hammer again in Infinity War undid his development in Ragnarok. Except...Odin said, "The hammer was help you control your power, to focus it. It was never the source of your power."

So Thor needed a new hammer not for more power, but for a new OUTLET for his power. He had plenty of power, but he needed something to help him focus it. Of course, it didn't help him focus on Thanos' head.
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My brain is now twisting this into Benedict Cumberbatch's Sherlock Holmes getting all mopey after breaking his favorite magnifying glass, and Martin Freeman's Watson having to go all, "It was never about the magnifying glass, Sherlock."
Aigh! Too many crossovers!

--Patrick
 
Celt Z

Celt Z

ThatNickGuy said:
Huh. I just realized something. Some complained Thor getting a hammer again in Infinity War undid his development in Ragnarok. Except...Odin said, "The hammer was help you control your power, to focus it. It was never the source of your power."

So Thor needed a new hammer not for more power, but for a new OUTLET for his power. He had plenty of power, but he needed something to help him focus it. Of course, it didn't help him focus on Thanos' head.
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If I remember correctly, Chris Hemsworth made this complaint. It disappointed him in IW.
 
Tress

Tress

Anyone else getting sick of seeing "A new fan theory on Avengers 4..." as every other headline in the news about this movie? When did we start giving a shit about what some guy on Twitter said about how he thinks the next movie should play out?
 
Dave

Dave

Staff member
They say that the working title might be a spoiler. Which is (1) why they haven't released it and (2) really fucking stupid if true.
 
PatrThom

PatrThom

They should stop after the second Infinity War movie, that way the first one can be Avengers: Infinity War 1/2
Talk about spoilers in your title.

--Patrick
 
figmentPez

figmentPez

Staff member
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Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Dave said:
They say that the working title might be a spoiler. Which is (1) why they haven't released it and (2) really fucking stupid if true.
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I've heard that too, which just raises more questions. A spoiler for what? Infinity War? Captain Marvel? The movie itself?

A title is partway a marketing tool, Disney. Sheesh. I guess they're beyond such things when a franchise is this successful.
 
Dave

Dave

Staff member
It'll probably be something like "Avengers 4: Into the Soul Stone" or something like that. Or "Escape from the Soul Stone". Or "Avengers 4: Electric Boogaloo"
 
ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

I've said this before, but my two title theories are:

Avengers Forever - Since it's essentially the big finale of their 10-year build up and a send off to Downey Jr and Evans. It's the fourth Avengers movie, so it's a sly FOURever (hopefully they don't promote it like that, if so). And it could mean the excellent Avengers Forever by Kurt Busiek & Carlos Pacheco gets a big push in book stores.

Avengers Assemble - Appropriate because they've yet to say the team's battle cry. And it'll be members coming together to take on Thanos. And maybe a pun if we see the disappeared heroes reform or "reassemble."
 
checkeredhat

checkeredhat

ThatNickGuy said:
I've said this before, but my two title theories are:

Avengers Forever - Since it's essentially the big finale of their 10-year build up and a send off to Downey Jr and Evans. It's the fourth Avengers movie, so it's a sly FOURever (hopefully they don't promote it like that, if so). And it could mean the excellent Avengers Forever by Kurt Busiek & Carlos Pacheco gets a big push in book stores.

Avengers Assemble - Appropriate because they've yet to say the team's battle cry. And it'll be members coming together to take on Thanos. And maybe a pun if we see the disappeared heroes reform or "reassemble."
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I think it'll be Avengers: Eternity War.

Same meaning as forever, but also, plays off the Ultimate Marvel event of the same name (though it will have nothing in common with said event), plays off Infinity War, gives us the the Infinity/Eternity connection, and maybe even introduces the Cosmic characters of the same name, (doubt characters will make an appearance, but we could get exposition that introduces Infinity and Eternity in the abstract).

Dont think it will be Avengers: Assemble simply because that was already the international title of the first Avengers movie, and that would create confusion.
 
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