D&D night is not the same as a terrorist attack on the seat of government. Trump and co. have been blowing dog whistles for months, or just flat out calling for violence. He knew what he was getting into. "I just wanted to see what the fuss was about," is not admissible in a court of law.
[News] US Capitol Siege 6 January 2021
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I'm not seeing anything that says he participated in the violence. I don't even see anything that says he made it to the steps of the Capitol. You can't take him to court if he didn't do anything wrong.
If he wore that shirt, and the protest stayed entirely peaceful, what would you think then?
He took part in a march that included an attack on the Capitol building. Five people died. That the march even took place was problematic enough. There was never anything peaceful about any of it.
Yeah. He was there. He did plenty of wrong just from that. And if it kills his business he deserves it.
Just to be clear, I hate Trump and everything he stands for. The violence was horrific and everyone who participated in it should be punished to the full extent of the law.
But, like any protest where someone does something violent, I cannot hold EVERYONE accountable for the actions of some. As much as I feel that Trump supporters have some depraved personal opinions on what is and what isn't acceptable in a peaceful society, I must believe that not all of them were there to be violent. Those who did not intend to be violent had the right to be there and protest.
But, like any protest where someone does something violent, I cannot hold EVERYONE accountable for the actions of some. As much as I feel that Trump supporters have some depraved personal opinions on what is and what isn't acceptable in a peaceful society, I must believe that not all of them were there to be violent. Those who did not intend to be violent had the right to be there and protest.
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Perhaps I am mistaken but I was under the impression that is exactly what DarkAudit was arguing.
What I take exception to was the notion that "he did nothing wrong." He took part in a march whose very intent was to violently spit in the face of everything this country stands for. It was not constitutionally protected speech in any way. Even freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences.
And the intent of the original post was to call out the dude and his business. People have every right to question their association with such people and spend their time and money accordingly. Just as the Parler vendors and teespring were asked to reconsider their association.
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Jan 6th just keeps getting weirder:
Oh dear, my migraine's coming back. That sounds a lot like our idiots over here; Deutschland GmbH ('Germany Ltd.'). Morons everywhere!
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For a guy named "ClericJohnPreston" there's a disappointing dearth of Equilibrium references in this post.
It's another branch of conspiracy nutters misinterpreting the Organic Act of 1871.
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Asking all the true Trump supporters to sit tight in their homes until March? Sounds like trying to get the assholes to stop trying to sabotage democracy, incite violence and maybe actually comply with some pandemic regulations by giving them a tasty conspiracy that's bat-shit-insane enough that they can't resist.
I keep seeing this suggested, and it's really unnecessary. He's a career politician, willing to join Donald Trump to further his ambitions. He has always gone with the team position, no matter how horrific, because that makes him a good team player. He's in it for himself and his own goals, and he doesn't need outside influence to be an awful, weak, immoral person.
UPDATE: To be clear, this isn't a shot at you, Pez. I'm saying the idea is unnecessary, as Pence has shown who he is through all of this.
I don't think, Tim. He was pretty disparaging of Trump, even after the election. Goes golfing with him one weekend, does a 180 so fast he got whiplash.
edit, whoopsie, I thought you were talking about Graham.
figmentPez
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Leadership knew that violence was coming on Jan 6th:
I will hold of celebrations until I actually see it, but at least it sounds like the Feds are not fucking around with these terrorist assholes:
Feds consider sedition and conspiracy charges in probe of pro-Trump Capitol riot
Feds consider sedition and conspiracy charges in probe of pro-Trump Capitol riot
I honestly think some Republicans will vote in favor of impeachment this time and it will go further this time around. If only because it's now a sinking ship and Trump is already on the way out, so he doesn't have the same hold on them as before.
Apparently it took a riot/failed coup to wake up some of the Republicans. But this country is going to have to deal with the millions of assholes who still like Trump and thought the mob who stormed the capital were "patriots" or some shit.
I'm just stunned. Never in a million years did I think we would see an actual coup attempt, even a dumb one such as this, in the U.S. Trump's election has shown me how truly fucked up about 40% of this country is.
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Mitch does love money.
