Burn em all out and then REBOOT the universe from the beginning right? Cast Tom Holland as Tony Stark this time around.
[Movies] MCU: Phase 3 And Beyond
- Thread starter BananaHands
- Start date
I'm actually fairly afraid that a lot of businesses are going to reason that way. Heck, most major Belgian brewers have already signaled BIG price hikes. Despite sales tax on alcohol being temporarily lowered the next years to compensate for lost revenue from having closed for months, we're still told to expect a hike of easily a euro per beer or soda. Yeah, cause everybody magically got a 30% pay raise during the pandemic. It's nuts.
Hopefully they're just trying to play catch-up with their original schedule and know their revenue will be lower no matter what.
It occurred to me today that if there was ever going to be a guy who'd notice that Stan Lee is making cameos throughout the MCU, it'd be Deadpool, but unfortunately he's entering the MCU just a tad too late, and it makes me a bit sad that we'll never hear Deadpool shout, "Hey, you're Stan Lee, I remember you were in all those other movies too! I love your cameos!"
They could probably find a way to make it work.
figmentPez
Staff member
"Wait, stop! The movie can't be over yet. There hasn't been a Stan Lee cameo yet! This is a Marvel movie, there has to be a Stan Lee cameo."
The Eternals
I don't know. The trailer isn't really doing much for me. Most of the time, the characters are just standing around and posing.
And of any Marvel movie that should have aesthetics inspired by Jack Kirby, it should be this one. But it all feels kinda bland.
I'll still see it, though, since Marvel Studios has earned their reputation and has a good track record.
I don't know. The trailer isn't really doing much for me. Most of the time, the characters are just standing around and posing.
And of any Marvel movie that should have aesthetics inspired by Jack Kirby, it should be this one. But it all feels kinda bland.
I'll still see it, though, since Marvel Studios has earned their reputation and has a good track record.
I think the issue is we don't have really any idea of what the conflict is. It just shows them involving themselves throughout time to develop humanity, a few disasters, and then them in the present having a family dinner. We have no idea of the actual modern stakes.
This does remind me of something that I find kind of funny about the MCU these days and I know it had to happen, but remember when Iron Man was the only hero? I watched Iron Man again recently, and the movie hits a whole lot different after the modern MCU. Before you could kind of give it a pass when all you had to think about was there was a Norse god kind of hanging out in space and a super soldier stuck in ice, but now you have...
An Ant Man, fought in countless wars.
A society of sorcerers defending the planet.
An African super soldier since ancient times.
A galaxy spanning set of civilizations all intermingling, trading, and fighting.
A super powered hero from the 90s that can punch space ships.
Now we are finding out...
Humanity itself was crafted by super powered Eternals.
The entire timeline is under the protection of something called the TVA.
Like, honestly, I go back and watch Iron Man and just think "Right now there is a super powered woman traveling through space, an intergalactic war between the Kree and Xandar, a super soldier in Africa behind a technological dome, a society of sorcerers keeping out Dormamu, people outside time that are policing the timelines, and a bunch of immortals having breakfast.
Again, it all had to happen, you can't expand something from a single point in time forward indefinitely, you gotta work from the past too. It's just weird looking back on it, is all.
Now I can't stop thinking about what the Eternals thought when the Asgardians were defending Norway in the olden days, or how the greater galactic civilization ties into the nine realms, which are also just planets out in the galaxy. When Heimdall gets bored does he just watch the Kree and Skrulls exploding eachother? I might have to go buy more Thor comics someday.
This does remind me of something that I find kind of funny about the MCU these days and I know it had to happen, but remember when Iron Man was the only hero? I watched Iron Man again recently, and the movie hits a whole lot different after the modern MCU. Before you could kind of give it a pass when all you had to think about was there was a Norse god kind of hanging out in space and a super soldier stuck in ice, but now you have...
An Ant Man, fought in countless wars.
A society of sorcerers defending the planet.
An African super soldier since ancient times.
A galaxy spanning set of civilizations all intermingling, trading, and fighting.
A super powered hero from the 90s that can punch space ships.
Now we are finding out...
Humanity itself was crafted by super powered Eternals.
The entire timeline is under the protection of something called the TVA.
Like, honestly, I go back and watch Iron Man and just think "Right now there is a super powered woman traveling through space, an intergalactic war between the Kree and Xandar, a super soldier in Africa behind a technological dome, a society of sorcerers keeping out Dormamu, people outside time that are policing the timelines, and a bunch of immortals having breakfast.
Again, it all had to happen, you can't expand something from a single point in time forward indefinitely, you gotta work from the past too. It's just weird looking back on it, is all.
Now I can't stop thinking about what the Eternals thought when the Asgardians were defending Norway in the olden days, or how the greater galactic civilization ties into the nine realms, which are also just planets out in the galaxy. When Heimdall gets bored does he just watch the Kree and Skrulls exploding eachother? I might have to go buy more Thor comics someday.
Technically none of the TV shows are canon outside of maybe the Netflix shows, so don't expect Inhumans in the MCU after Kevin tanked their movie in protest of them being used in AoSHIELD.
I don't think the teaser was terribly exciting, but I think it did what it needed to do: it gave us a brief intro into characters most people have never heard of, established their connection to Earth, exhibited that they are alien and superhuman, and from the musical cues,they are here for a world ending event that has nothing to do with Thanos (possibly). The stinger at the end also lets you know they are up on MCU current events. I'll give them points for going to subtlety and building atmosphere instead of the usual bombast we get with superhero introductions.
...maybe? If the rumors about Spider-Man: No Way Home are to be believed, some of the TV or Netflix shows might be made canon. *hopes*
I heard the rumors on Daredevil, but that's why I said that maybe the Netflix shows will make the cut. The ABC shows (AoSHIELD / Inhumans) are never going to be accepted though because Kevin had zero input into them and pretty much writes them off as never happening. It's why AoSHIELD just dropped any semblance of interconnectivity with the MCU during the last three seasons, and why Kevin dropped the Inhumans movie from Phase 4 since ABC / Marvel already used them for AoSHIELD, which forced ABC / Marvel to try making Inhumans into a show instead.
Many people forget that Marvel and Marvel Studios, well, they kind of hate each other.
Many people forget that Marvel and Marvel Studios, well, they kind of hate each other.
To piggyback off of what @Celt Z said, and for anyone who missed it:
There are numerous rumors that Disney decided to have Charlie Cox (Daredevil), Krysten Ritter (Jessica Jones), and Jon Bernthal (Punisher) reprise their characters in future movies/shows. The catch is that any and all storylines from the shows will be ignored/expelled from canon. Mike Coulter (Luke Cage) and Finn Jones (Iron Fist) are apparently not coming back, nor are any of the actors who played supporting characters. But all of this is unconfirmed.
This was true, and then Kevin Feige screamed "There can be only one!" and beheaded the Marvel Television division. Now it's all united behind him.
(Marvel Television was cut off and essentially disbanded in 2019, since much of what they were producing was shit and customers were getting confused by the weird divide that had popped up. The MCU's success meant that Feige gets to oversee all the shows from that point on, and makes sure they are at least somewhat integrated into the film universe.)
It's really not just Marvel Television, it's Marvel as a whole (comics, games, etc). Kevin used to answer to Ike Perlmutter, the head of Marvel, and Kevin hated that guy so much he convinced Bob Iger to severe Marvel Studios from Marvel itself, making them into two entirely separate entities within the Disney umbrella. Ike spent years trying to capitalize on the MCU without having any influence on the MCU because of the split, which is why he had Marvel Television continue to try and seem integrated, even though Kevin always ignored them. The writers on AoSHIELD simply gave up after awhile.
Now that all the television shows are under Marvel Studios (through Disney+) it's definitely going to be different.
Not so much Marvel itself but Ike Perlmutter specifically, who headed up the TV division, pushed Inhumans hard, and went as far as to have an edict across Marvel to push the Inhumans enough to try making them as big as the X-Men. And going as far as erasing X-Men from some branding, like removing them from some t-shirt images of famous covers.
Feige and Perlmutter were constantly feuding. Agents of SHIELD and the Netflix series aren't considered canon largely because of this feud. And probably why the Disney+ shows "count" more.
Not just the TV division.
Ike is the Chairman and CEO of Marvel Entertainment. He runs everything with the Marvel brand that he is allowed to have control over by Disney (+contracts), including the original comics, games, previously television, etc. I keep feeling like I have to make this clear that it's not just Marvel Television. Ike simply used Marvel Television to try and piggyback off the MCU after Kevin "stole" it from him, but he was not just the Marvel Television guy, he was formerly Kevin's boss back when Marvel Studios was a division of Marvel Entertainment.
Maybe I am just being obtuse, but I feel like so many people are focusing on a Marvel Studios and Marvel Television feud when it's really Marvel Studios versus Marvel itself, due to Ike and Kevin's feud.
Yes, but that was Columbia Pictures, not the MCU, so Poe's statement is not entirely inaccurate.
I mean, it's not like Ben Affleck got sad once we got Charlie Cox!
...oh.
Maybe you are right.
Either way, just don't expect anything pre-MCU controlled to be canon. Even if the rumors are true and they are bringing back some of the Netflix actors to reprise their roles, it's likely going to be more like J. K Simmons reprising his role as J Johan Jameson in FFH. Same character, entirely different take within the MCU.
Either way, just don't expect anything pre-MCU controlled to be canon. Even if the rumors are true and they are bringing back some of the Netflix actors to reprise their roles, it's likely going to be more like J. K Simmons reprising his role as J Johan Jameson in FFH. Same character, entirely different take within the MCU.
I liked that Daredevil movie....and enjoyed the Elecktra movie...Yes, but that was Columbia Pictures, not the MCU, so Poe's statement is not entirely inaccurate.
I mean, it's not like Ben Affleck got sad once we got Charlie Cox!
...oh.
But lets never speak of the FF .
DD Director's cut was very good.
That teaser had lots of Gemma Chan so I am happy.
Gemma Chan is so hot.
Also I heard that she's disguising herself in the modern era as a museum curator, and if that's true then I choose to believe that Sherlock is part of the MCU. (Gemma Chan played a museum worker in the episode The Blind Banker.)
Gemma Chan is so hot.
Also I heard that she's disguising herself in the modern era as a museum curator, and if that's true then I choose to believe that Sherlock is part of the MCU. (Gemma Chan played a museum worker in the episode The Blind Banker.)
