[Brazelton] Roe v. Wade

I'm looking forward to all the legal clusters regarding cross-state abortions, and legalities regarding a fetus having people rights in one state versus not in another state. Didn't we literally have a Civil War over similar issues regarding the rights of black people varying from state to state?
 
Well Biden just signed an executive order today to protect abortion rights. It's not a long term solution but it's a start.
 

figmentPez

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The hypocrisy of conservatives is annoying, as usual. "Any president who makes such unlawful executive orders should be imprisoned!" It's useless to try to call them out on it, though. They just do not care.
 
The hypocrisy of conservatives is annoying, as usual. "Any president who makes such unlawful executive orders should be imprisoned!" It's useless to try to call them out on it, though. They just do not care.
Exactly, they don't care about being called hypocrites. Machiavellian to the core. Their ends always justify whatever means.
 
I really do hate that executive orders are being used this way (and have been for the better part of a decade). It’s not supposed to be how the federal government is run. And I blame McConnell for being such an obstructionist piece of shit. If he actually had a shred of decency and worked with his political opponents, no one would feel the need to do an end-around the Constitution with E.O.’s like this.
 
I really do hate that executive orders are being used this way (and have been for the better part of a decade). It’s not supposed to be how the federal government is run. And I blame McConnell for being such an obstructionist piece of shit. If he actually had a shred of decency and worked with his political opponents, no one would feel the need to do an end-around the Constitution with E.O.’s like this.
It's already been proven, again and again, that the constitution doesn't really matter, they're just words on paper that no one actually follows.
 


I'm too depressed to go searching for confirmation of this, but I really hope doctors have some plan to deal with ectopic pregnancies in Texas.
Tweet blocked. Anyone capture it?

Also some women are "taking the bull by the horns," so to speak:
It's not lost on me that the article title is "pregnant people."

--Patrick
 

figmentPez

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Tweet blocked. Anyone capture it?
The tweet was, allegedly, passing on the story of a woman who had called her doctor asking about what would happen if she had an ectopic pregnancy. Her doctor assured her that she would still get treatment, but they weren't sure what that would be, since they can no longer get methotrexate.

I don't know if this is true, but there's a LOT of people on social media saying they've been blocked from refilling their methotrexate prescription for things like lupus and other auto-immune diseases.
 
I took methotrexate as an anti rejection drug related to my biologic. Are they seriously going to deny a whole bunch of AS and RA patients methotrexate?!

Yes, it is used in abortions. Many things are. What the actual F.
 

figmentPez

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You are correct. Evidently methotrexate is only being blocked for fertile women. Or women that they think are of child bearing age.

I had certain meds not even offered to me as a young adult for similar reasons…in the 90s. I really thought we as a society were better now.
 
Well, for women of course. No chance of us getting our faces eaten, right folks? Hahah
There is actually a case going right now in TX where a pregnant woman is fighting a ticket for being in the HOV lane, claiming the fetus counted as a second person inside the car at the time.

—Patrick
 
There is actually a case going right now in TX where a pregnant woman is fighting a ticket for being in the HOV lane, claiming the fetus counted as a second person inside the car at the time.

—Patrick
Well pregnant women have no rights but fetuses do, so looks like that baby was driving without a license.
 
I'm looking forward to all the legal clusters regarding cross-state abortions, and legalities regarding a fetus having people rights in one state versus not in another state. Didn't we literally have a Civil War over similar issues regarding the rights of black people varying from state to state?

Lol Boom!

 
Yep there it is.
I wasn't going to dig it up on mobile.
I look forward to the mental gymnastics competition AZ, TX, and FL are going to have over this kind of stuff.

--Patrick
 
And now the state can argue that if she wants to count as two people, two people can't be in the drivers seat . So pregnant women can no longer drive. And all the morons will happily agree...
 
I mean, that’s just going to make authorities think that any long periods of “data missing” while near any abortion clinic means you must’ve stopped there.

In semi-related news:
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--Patrick
 

figmentPez

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A 27 year-old man raped a 10 year-old girl, and not only are people debating if she should have control over her own body, but major news outlets are trying to deny that she even exists.

This country is a shithole.
 

figmentPez

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“I have gotten some reports where children have been denied methotrexate for their juvenile arthritis until they’ve proven they’re not pregnant,” said Dr. Cuoghi Edens, an assistant professor of internal medicine and pediatrics at University of Chicago Medicine and a rheumatology expert who treats adults and children.

In one case, a pharmacist initially refused to dispense methotrexate to an 8-year-old girl in Texas. In a note the child’s doctor shared with Edens, the pharmacist wrote, “Females of possible child bearing potential have to have diagnosis on hard copy with state abortion laws.”

Post-Roe, many autoimmune patients lose access to ‘gold standard’ drug
 


A 27 year-old man raped a 10 year-old girl, and not only are people debating if she should have control over her own body, but major news outlets are trying to deny that she even exists.

This country is a shithole.
Now that it's been proven to be 100% real, they've pivoted to trying to make it about immigration.
 
Who the fuck agrees with this shit? I'm so baffled the entire country isn't losing their fucking minds that the christo-fascists are trying to dictate laws for everyone.
 
I don't know how they're getting away with it, either.
I suspect it is because there are enough CFSympathizers in the positions that could do something about it yet just choose not to.

--Patrick
 
Who the fuck agrees with this shit? I'm so baffled the entire country isn't losing their fucking minds that the christo-fascists are trying to dictate laws for everyone.
It doesn’t affect them directly yet, so it’s easy to ignore.
 
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