I'm looking forward to all the legal clusters regarding cross-state abortions, and legalities regarding a fetus having people rights in one state versus not in another state. Didn't we literally have a Civil War over similar issues regarding the rights of black people varying from state to state?
[Brazelton] Roe v. Wade
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Well Biden just signed an executive order today to protect abortion rights. It's not a long term solution but it's a start.
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The hypocrisy of conservatives is annoying, as usual. "Any president who makes such unlawful executive orders should be imprisoned!" It's useless to try to call them out on it, though. They just do not care.
Exactly, they don't care about being called hypocrites. Machiavellian to the core. Their ends always justify whatever means.
I really do hate that executive orders are being used this way (and have been for the better part of a decade). It’s not supposed to be how the federal government is run. And I blame McConnell for being such an obstructionist piece of shit. If he actually had a shred of decency and worked with his political opponents, no one would feel the need to do an end-around the Constitution with E.O.’s like this.
It's already been proven, again and again, that the constitution doesn't really matter, they're just words on paper that no one actually follows.
Tweet blocked. Anyone capture it?
Also some women are "taking the bull by the horns," so to speak:
Ohio bill would allow pregnant people to sue over unintended pregnancies
The Democratic senator sponsoring the bill said the legislation is needed now more than ever since a new Ohio law went into effect that bans abortion for most people.
news.wosu.org
--Patrick
figmentPez
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The tweet was, allegedly, passing on the story of a woman who had called her doctor asking about what would happen if she had an ectopic pregnancy. Her doctor assured her that she would still get treatment, but they weren't sure what that would be, since they can no longer get methotrexate.
I don't know if this is true, but there's a LOT of people on social media saying they've been blocked from refilling their methotrexate prescription for things like lupus and other auto-immune diseases.
figmentPez
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I took methotrexate as an anti rejection drug related to my biologic. Are they seriously going to deny a whole bunch of AS and RA patients methotrexate?!
Yes, it is used in abortions. Many things are. What the actual F.
Yes, it is used in abortions. Many things are. What the actual F.
figmentPez
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Apparently, yes, access to methotrexate is being restricted:
Why Rheumatoid Arthritis Patients Are Having Trouble Getting Their Meds Post-Roe
Methotrexate, used on autoimmune diseases, can induce abortion. Some patients can't get it
That’s insane! They are effectively crippling these people.
As long as they are the right people... /s
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The answer should be take it up with the FDA.
Alcohol and Nicotine are also supposed to be abortifascients. But will they be restricted? Ha!
--Patrick
Yes, they will. Everything is up for grabs.
Well, for women of course. No chance of us getting our faces eaten, right folks? Hahah
You are correct. Evidently methotrexate is only being blocked for fertile women. Or women that they think are of child bearing age.
I had certain meds not even offered to me as a young adult for similar reasons…in the 90s. I really thought we as a society were better now.
I had certain meds not even offered to me as a young adult for similar reasons…in the 90s. I really thought we as a society were better now.
There is actually a case going right now in TX where a pregnant woman is fighting a ticket for being in the HOV lane, claiming the fetus counted as a second person inside the car at the time.
—Patrick
Well pregnant women have no rights but fetuses do, so looks like that baby was driving without a license.
Lol Boom!
Pregnant woman says her fetus should count as a passenger in HOV lanes. She got a ticket
Under Texas' new abortion law, does a fetus count as a second passenger in an HOV lane? A pregnant woman from Plano, Texas says she will make that argument in...
www.dallasnews.com
In semi-related news:I mean, that’s just going to make authorities think that any long periods of “data missing” while near any abortion clinic means you must’ve stopped there.
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--Patrick
figmentPez
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A 27 year-old man raped a 10 year-old girl, and not only are people debating if she should have control over her own body, but major news outlets are trying to deny that she even exists.
This country is a shithole.
figmentPez
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“I have gotten some reports where children have been denied methotrexate for their juvenile arthritis until they’ve proven they’re not pregnant,” said Dr. Cuoghi Edens, an assistant professor of internal medicine and pediatrics at University of Chicago Medicine and a rheumatology expert who treats adults and children.
In one case, a pharmacist initially refused to dispense methotrexate to an 8-year-old girl in Texas. In a note the child’s doctor shared with Edens, the pharmacist wrote, “Females of possible child bearing potential have to have diagnosis on hard copy with state abortion laws.”
Post-Roe, many autoimmune patients lose access to ‘gold standard’ drug
In one case, a pharmacist initially refused to dispense methotrexate to an 8-year-old girl in Texas. In a note the child’s doctor shared with Edens, the pharmacist wrote, “Females of possible child bearing potential have to have diagnosis on hard copy with state abortion laws.”
Post-Roe, many autoimmune patients lose access to ‘gold standard’ drug
Now that it's been proven to be 100% real, they've pivoted to trying to make it about immigration.
So anyone 5 and up then?
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Texas sues to block Biden from requiring doctors to provide abortions in medical emergencies
Republicans want to kill women. There's no two ways about it. Republicans demand control over women to the point that they are willing to kill women as demonstration of their power.
Republicans want to kill women. There's no two ways about it. Republicans demand control over women to the point that they are willing to kill women as demonstration of their power.
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Dave
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In Missouri if you're pregnant, you can not file for divorce.
It doesn’t affect them directly yet, so it’s easy to ignore.