[Brazelton] Roe v. Wade
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Yes, the US Holocaust Museum had a poster with that list of fascism's early warning signs.
--Patrick
figmentPez
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Texas man sues ex-wife's friends for allegedly helping her get abortion pills
"A Texas man has filed a wrongful death lawsuit against three women for allegedly helping his then-wife obtain pills used to induce an abortion last year. The lawsuit by Marcus A. Silva of Galveston County, Texas, seeks more than $1 million from each of the three defendants and an injunction prohibiting them from 'distributing abortion pills.' "
"A Texas man has filed a wrongful death lawsuit against three women for allegedly helping his then-wife obtain pills used to induce an abortion last year. The lawsuit by Marcus A. Silva of Galveston County, Texas, seeks more than $1 million from each of the three defendants and an injunction prohibiting them from 'distributing abortion pills.' "
GasBandit
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Welp, here we go - the legal battle that we all knew was coming when the dumb "bounty" law went into effect is now here. Surprised it took this long, tbh. Would not be surprised if this one went all the way to the USSC and caused a constitutional crisis.
I find this very interesting due to the following:
...so Texas Man may be punitively suing these three women for $1mil for wrongful death, but if they are subsequently found guilty, doesn't that mean the State of Texas MUST then step in and charge these women with capital murder and insist they be executed? If so, Texas Man will get no money from dead people. Talk about a legal quagmire.
--Patrick
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...so Texas Man may be punitively suing these three women for $1mil for wrongful death, but if they are subsequently found guilty, doesn't that mean the State of Texas MUST then step in and charge these women with capital murder and insist they be executed? If so, Texas Man will get no money from dead people. Talk about a legal quagmire.
--Patrick
Bold of you to assume they won't charge dead people.
figmentPez
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Texas woman forced to give birth to baby with anencephaly now can't even afford funeral
There was zero chance of this baby surviving, yet the mother was forced to go through the pregnancy, even though it drove her into depression requiring medication, and is now putting a financial hardship on the family.
As always, the cruelty is intentional. Republican lawmakers are disgusting.
There was zero chance of this baby surviving, yet the mother was forced to go through the pregnancy, even though it drove her into depression requiring medication, and is now putting a financial hardship on the family.
As always, the cruelty is intentional. Republican lawmakers are disgusting.
That is just awful for that poor woman and her family. I have no words.
Hey man, we're pro life, but life just really really sucks sometimes, but that's not our fault, okay?
... Yeah, I dunno. Indefensible.
Michigan at least took a step in the right direction yesterday.
abcnews.go.com
“Oh we are fighting over whether this old law will go back into effect? How about if we just delete it?”
Conservatives are whining that the most recent elections (which swung more heavily blue) were rigged, but as many of these articles explain, what actually happened is that districting is now done by committee instead of by gerrymander, and so the votes are more accurately reflecting the will of the population instead of the folks who draw up the districts.
—Patrick
Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer signs bill repealing 1931 abortion ban
Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer signed a bill into law Wednesday repealing a 1931 aboriton that criminalized the procedure.
abcnews.go.com
Conservatives are whining that the most recent elections (which swung more heavily blue) were rigged, but as many of these articles explain, what actually happened is that districting is now done by committee instead of by gerrymander, and so the votes are more accurately reflecting the will of the population instead of the folks who draw up the districts.
—Patrick
Look, what's important is that she got the chance to be born... everything that happens after is the baby's personal responsibility... why didn't she just get a job to make money to pay for the funeral? It's not like she didn't know it was coming...
Foetuses are precious, but not employees babies are just lazy leeches...
So, if you are raped you can apply for an extension to the 6 week limitation, if you have your paperwork in order.
Why would anyone choose to live in Florida?
Well it ain't cuz of the weather.
DeSantis slammed for out-of-state politicking amid Fort Lauderdale flooding
While the heavily Democratic Fort Lauderdale was dealing with historic flooding Thursday morning, Republican Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis was having breakfast with members of the Summit County, Ohio R…
www.orlandosentinel.com
--Patrick
Maybe you could simplify it so people don't have to carry their party card on them all the time. Maybe just ban them only for people who dont want them at that time.
I wonder if this is some convoluted solution to the idea that conservatives are dying off so they need to have more conservative babies.
Mother who helped her daughter get an abortion sentenced to two years in prison.
Glad they got this criminal mastermind off the streets and behind bars. It’s great that we’re putting people behind bars for using civil rights.
Glad they got this criminal mastermind off the streets and behind bars. It’s great that we’re putting people behind bars for using civil rights.
28 weeks is either a viable fetus well beyond almost anyone's willingness for abortion to be allowed without medical reason, or unviable/dead in the womb/dangerous to the mother, in which case an abortion should be allowed because what's the point of cruelly making her carry something that will never be able to become a human for 2 more months?
This is sorely lacking in details to make any sort of judgement.
This is sorely lacking in details to make any sort of judgement.
Omg wow it’s like conservatives are inhuman monsters devoid of empathy for anyone who want people to suffer because they’re unambiguously evil. That’s something that hasn’t been noticed before.
Yeah, this took place before Roe v Wade was overturned, and 28 weeks was illegal even under Roe v Wade. (I can't find any Western country that allows elective abortion after 24 weeks). At that time, abortion was legal to 20 weeks in Nebraska (it was very recently changed to 12 weeks for elective abortions). 28-weeks is a premature infant.
I don’t think that the government should be in the business of forcing people to go through childbirth when they don’t want to. I also think that two years is a fucking ridiculous sentence for once again helping her daughter exercise a civil right.
figmentPez
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An Alabama woman was imprisoned for ‘endangering’ her fetus. She gave birth in a jail shower
"In March 2021, sheriffs in Etowah county, Alabama, arrested Ashley Caswell on accusations that she’d tested positive for methamphetamine while pregnant and was 'endangering' her fetus."
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"Caswell was denied regular access to prenatal visits, even as officials were aware her pregnancy was high-risk due to her hypertension and abnormal pap smears, according to a lawsuit filed on Friday against the county and the sheriff’s department. She was also denied her prescribed psychiatric medication and slept on a thin mat on the concrete floor of the detention center for her entire pregnancy.
"In October, when her water broke and she pleaded to be taken to a hospital, her lawyer says, officials told her to 'sleep it off' and 'wait until Monday' to deliver – two days away.
"During nearly 12 hours of labor, staff gave her only Tylenol for her pain, the suit says, allegedly telling her to 'stop screaming', to 'deal with the pain' and that she was 'not in full labor'. Caswell lost amniotic fluid and blood and was alone and standing up in a jail shower when she ultimately delivered her child, according to the complaint and her medical records. She nearly bled to death, her lawyers say."
"In March 2021, sheriffs in Etowah county, Alabama, arrested Ashley Caswell on accusations that she’d tested positive for methamphetamine while pregnant and was 'endangering' her fetus."
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"Caswell was denied regular access to prenatal visits, even as officials were aware her pregnancy was high-risk due to her hypertension and abnormal pap smears, according to a lawsuit filed on Friday against the county and the sheriff’s department. She was also denied her prescribed psychiatric medication and slept on a thin mat on the concrete floor of the detention center for her entire pregnancy.
"In October, when her water broke and she pleaded to be taken to a hospital, her lawyer says, officials told her to 'sleep it off' and 'wait until Monday' to deliver – two days away.
"During nearly 12 hours of labor, staff gave her only Tylenol for her pain, the suit says, allegedly telling her to 'stop screaming', to 'deal with the pain' and that she was 'not in full labor'. Caswell lost amniotic fluid and blood and was alone and standing up in a jail shower when she ultimately delivered her child, according to the complaint and her medical records. She nearly bled to death, her lawyers say."