figmentPez
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Apparently unpopular opinion, but felons should be able to vote and run for office. Trump is a horrible person regardless of this conviction, while there are way too many minorities who have had the justice system used as a blunt weapon against them.
I’m going to agree. It should be up to the American people to decide if a felon’s crimes disqualify them from office. I just wish more Americans actually had standards.
It would be sad if any of those people were real.
I live in Wisconsin and have no doubt there are people like this. Hell, I spent the last weekend with someone I respect and knew for years, who is a smart individual, that parroted back at me that each state should make their own rules in regards to abortion, and that person is married to a nurse. I wish and hope to hell the polling and responses are wrong, but from everything I'm hearing from people I know and talk to, it's not. We are headed toward the saddest timeline for this country. I won't be surprised by it this time.
Funny story about the above.
I pointed out @bhamv3 's post (previously) to two people at work with whom I frequently share memes and such.
Neither of them got it. So I had to explain that "R34" was short for "Rule 34."
Again, neither of them knew what "Rule 34" was.
So I had to explain what "Rule 34" means/stands for/why they probably shouldn't search for that at work.
Twice.
After that second time, I stopped showing it to people, because I took it as a sign that maybe I should stop talking about Rule 34 at work.
--Patrick
I pointed out @bhamv3 's post (previously) to two people at work with whom I frequently share memes and such.
Neither of them got it. So I had to explain that "R34" was short for "Rule 34."
Again, neither of them knew what "Rule 34" was.
So I had to explain what "Rule 34" means/stands for/why they probably shouldn't search for that at work.
Twice.
After that second time, I stopped showing it to people, because I took it as a sign that maybe I should stop talking about Rule 34 at work.
--Patrick
figmentPez
Staff member
Many of the topmost "generic" comments (I deliberately do not sign into my account while browsing) that Reddit has decided to show me over the past few days have been quotes and screencaps of social media posts by many GOP faithful, either talking about how the country they once loved has been ABSOLUTELY DESTROYED and how somebody, possibly even them, should DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT ("it" presumably meaning "Teh Libs" while strangely not mentioning anything like "...by voting"), or anecdotes by family members of those faithful recounting the things their [grand]parents/uncles/aunts/etc. have said they will do if given the chance, or the things they HAVE done (liquidating a child's college fund to instead donate that money to the just-and-deserving Trump Cause being the one that stands out in my mind). If even half of them are true, we're going to have a big subsection of the American People who have, either deliberately or deludedly, ended up putting themselves into such a squeeze that, come November, their desperation may be so high that their brains literally may only be capable of fight-or-flight decision-making, which would NOT bode well for a smooth, orderly election.
Yes, I am legitimately concerned about the potential number of people who will decide that their situation has "somehow" (active denial of consequences/actions) gotten SO DIRE that they will figure they have nothing left to live for, and so will "take one for the team" and go drive their lifted pickup through the crowd waiting to vote in the nearby blue district in an attempt to ensure the success of the ONLY REMAINING THING that could possibly help their situation.
--Patrick
Yes, I am legitimately concerned about the potential number of people who will decide that their situation has "somehow" (active denial of consequences/actions) gotten SO DIRE that they will figure they have nothing left to live for, and so will "take one for the team" and go drive their lifted pickup through the crowd waiting to vote in the nearby blue district in an attempt to ensure the success of the ONLY REMAINING THING that could possibly help their situation.
--Patrick
Look, no need to exaggerate. That juror said they got their news from Truth Social and X.
Anyway, I honestly expect a Trump win or a lot of domestic terrorism.
Either way, Russia wins, Ukraine loses, the West loses,the world loses.
‘Trust Jesus’ MAGA Bus Crashes Into Pole Ahead of Staten Island Pro-Trump Rally
“Holy crap,” one bystander on the scene remarked, adding that it had been a “freaking miracle” no one was hurt.
www.thedailybeast.com
Like the article says, it looks like Jesus took the wheel.
--Patrick
GasBandit
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Portrait of a president: Convicted felon Trump vowed to appeal the guilty verdict that made him the first U.S. president convicted of a crime, calling the trial “a scam.” After a New York jury found Trump guilty on 34 counts of election interference involving falsified business records to conceal a hush money payment to an adult-film actress, Trump renewed his attacks on the judge, the prosecutors, and aired other grievances about the process, making multiple false and misleading claims that the trial was “rigged.” There is no evidence of this. Biden, meanwhile, called Trump’s guilty verdict a confirmation that “no one is above the law,” adding that it’s “reckless,” “dangerous,” and “irresponsible” for Trump and his fellow Republicans to attack the results and the justice system. (Washington Post / Reuters / NPR / Politico / Wall Street Journal / New York Times / Slate / Politico / Washington Post / New York Times)
- Convicted felon Trump falsely claims he never called for Hillary Clinton to be locked up. “I didn’t say ‘lock her up,’ but the people said lock her up, lock her up,” Trump said. “Then, we won. And I say — and I said pretty openly, I said, all right, come on, just relax, let’s go, we’ve got to make our country great.” (Washington Post)
- House Speaker Mike Johnson called for the U.S. Supreme Court to “step in” to overturn convicted felon Trump’s guilty verdict. “I think that the Justices on the court – I know many of them personally – I think they are deeply concerned about that, as we are. So I think they’ll set this straight,” Johnson said. (Axios)
- Supporters of convicted felon Trump called for riots, revolution, and violent retribution. “1,000,000 men (armed) need to go to Washington and hang everyone. That’s the only solution,” one Trump supporter said on a pro-Trump platform. Another added: “Trump should already know he has an army willing to fight and die for him if he says the words…I’ll take up arms if he asks.” (Reuters)
- Trump supporters try to dox jurors and post violent threats after his conviction. “On social media and web forums, users called for jurors, judges and prosecutors to be killed after the former president was found guilty on 34 felony counts.” (NBC News)
- Trump’s guilty verdict shatters his aura of invincibility. “Now that Trump has been branded a felon, dubiously helping Trump delay justice will become harder to justify, and will come at a greater political and institutional price.” (The New Republic)
- Wall street billionaires are rushing to back convicted felon Trump. “A big reason, in a word: money. Trump has promised to cut taxes for the wealthy and eliminate regulations. President Joe Biden wants the opposite.” (Bloomberg)
- A turning point in America’s cold civil war. “Nearly a decade into the Trump era, he finally has a comeuppance worthy of the historical moment: a felony conviction on all 34 counts by a state jury sitting in Manhattan, the locus of his life and business career. It took way too long.” (Talking Points Memo)
- Why the ludicrous Republican response to Trump’s conviction matters. “The conspiratorial vibe is — ensuring that, in whatever way possible, Republican voters get the message that anything bad that ever happens to Donald Trump is the fault of the Democrat-controlled system.” (Vox)
GasBandit
Staff member
Convicted felon Trump – again – suggested that he’d prosecute his political opponents if he’s reelected. “It’s a terrible, terrible path that they’re leading us to, and it’s very possible that it’s going to have to happen to them,” Trump said while discussing the 34 felon counts of orchestrating an illegal conspiracy to influence the 2016 presidential election by falsifying business records a a New York jury found him guilty of. “Does that mean the next president does it to them? That’s really the question,” he added. (Washington Post / NBC News / CNN / Axios)
GasBandit
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A Georgia appeals court indefinitely postponed convicted felon Trump’s election subversion case while a lower court resolves an appeal by Trump and his eight other defendants seeking to disqualify Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis. In March, Judge Scott McAfee declined to remove Willis following revelations that she was engaged in a romantic relationship with a member of her legal team. The appeals court is expected to rule on the disqualification issue by March 2025. (New York Times / CNBC / Washington Post / CNN / Axios / Associated Press)
GasBandit
Staff member
The federal judge overseeing convicted felon Trump’s trial involving “willful retention” of classified documents in violation of the Espionage Act – again – abruptly changed the court’s schedule. Judge Aileen Cannon granted Trump’s request to allow third parties not involved in the case to argue whether the appointment of Jack Smith as special counsel is legal. The parties include conservative lawyers Josh Blackman and Gene Schaerr – constitutional scholars with connections to the right-wing Federalist Society – and Matthew Seligman, a legal scholar who thinks that Trump’s motion is “meritless.” Cannon also agreed to hear Trump’s arguments that the FBI plotted to assassinate him while executing a court-authorized search warrant at Mar-a-Lago – a made-up conspiracy theory that Smith said were “intentionally false and inflammatory” and Attorney General Merrick Garland called “baseless and extremely dangerous falsehoods.” Nevertheless, Cannon denied Smith’s gag order request last week, because she deemed it “wholly lacking in substance and professional courtesy.” In May, Cannon – a Trump-appointee – indefinitely postponed the trial to rule on “myriad and interconnected pre-trial” without setting a new date. (CNN / New York Times / Business Insider / HuffPost / The New Republic)
GasBandit
Staff member
Convicted felon Trump asked the judge overseeing his election interference trial involving falsified business records to terminate the gag order because the trial is over. Trump argued that his need for “unrestrained campaign advocacy” is greater because Biden called Trump’s behavior “reckless, dangerous, and irresponsible for anyone to say this was rigged just because they don’t like the verdict.” Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, however, opposed Trump’s request, arguing that Trump’s partial gag order should stay in effect through sentencing on July 11 to protect the integrity of the proceedings. Trump was fined $10,000 during the trial for violating the gag order, which barred him from making comments about witnesses, jurors, prosecutors, and court staff. (Axios / CNBC / Washington Post / CNN)
Guys, do you believe he'll be put in jail? I'm 100% sure he'll appeal the conviction on the basis of the judge's errors, as shown on this law firm's page. Anyway, if he gets re-elected, he'll pardon himself.
figmentPez
Staff member
Trump went on an unhinged rant about how he's going to do away with electric vehicles, because a sinking boat's batteries would electrocute you and you'd have to choose between electrocution and being eaten by a shark. He also ranted about how shark attacks are up, but people are trying to say that sharks are just confused about who women are and that's why they're biting them.
Oh, he'll definitely appeal. Doesn't mean he'll win, and he definitely won't be able to pardon himself since he was convicted of State crimes & the President can only pardon Federal convictions.
GasBandit
Staff member
What errors, exactly? And the federal appeals process as outlined by a lawyer in El Paso has very little bearing on the process (or validity) of appealing convictions in New York State.
GasBandit
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