Marijuana And You

How often do you smoke pot?

  • Never have.

    Votes: 41 50.0%
  • Have tried it one or two times

    Votes: 20 24.4%
  • Every once in a long while

    Votes: 13 15.9%
  • Every once in a short while

    Votes: 2 2.4%
  • Once or twice a week

    Votes: 1 1.2%
  • Regularly

    Votes: 5 6.1%

  • Total voters
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I went ahead and answered the poll as if it said "used" marijuana and not specifically "smoked".
Well said. I haven't smoked in...wow, this month is one year since I got my Volcano. Awesome. I only vaporize or ingest (mostly very potent capsules, not so much with the baked goods) anymore.

I'm abstaining from voting since I don't think medical and recreational frequency of use are that comparable.
 

fade

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Fairly regularly in grad school, but not at all since my kids were born. One of those things that just fell off the priority list.
 

Cajungal

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1. Makes me feel more sick and lazy than anything.

2. I'm paranoid about getting caught once I'm a teacher.

3. It's kinda expensive :confused:...Well, I don't know what's typical at all.
 
change one or two times to a couple dozen.

Just don't do it anymore. Nothin' against it. I'm pro legalization, got lots of friends that smoke up. Just not for me.
 
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Wasabi Poptart

I used to smoke weed pretty regularly about 10 - 15 years ago. I loved smoking hash. I quit when I realized how often I was losing my train of thought mid-sentence when I wasn't high. :bush:

I never ingested and only heard people talking about vaporizing since I started hanging out on this forum (in one incarnation or another).
 
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ThatNickGuy

Never have, never will. Don't see what the appeal for it is and I'm honestly convinced I'm allergic to it. Any time I even get a whiff of it, I cough near to the point of choking.

Because of said possibly allergy, I'm not for legalization, as that would just make it more common in public. And I hate cigarette smoke as it is.
 
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Silvanesti

never have. not against it, just never been in a situation where I felt like I wanted to try.

Legalize and tax the shit outta it though.
 
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ThatNickGuy

It's very simple: I wholeheartedly supported the by-law passed here in Canada to ban smoking indoors. I hated going to restaurants, bars, etc, and inhaling all that secondhand smoke. HATED it.

So, it pot was legalized, people would be doing it more openly and freely in public, just like cigarettes. To that, I say, no thanks.
 
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Silvanesti

It's very simple: I wholeheartedly supported the by-law passed here in Canada to ban smoking indoors. I hated going to restaurants, bars, etc, and inhaling all that secondhand smoke. HATED it.

So, it pot was legalized, people would be doing it more openly and freely in public, just like cigarettes. To that, I say, no thanks.
...So you are in favor of restrictive laws with negative impacts just as long as you are not inconvenienced?
 
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ThatNickGuy

It's not just inconvienence, it's health, too. I don't like being upwind of people smoking and I sure as hell don't want to be near someone who even SMELLS of pot (because cripes, that shit reeks). As I said in my first reply, just getting a whiff of it sends me gagging.

I have nothing against people that smoke or smoke pot, as long as I'm not around it. If legalized, it'd be around more.
 
TNG, just wear a rebreather and a shredder mask. You'd avoid the smoke *and* look awesome.

Plus you get a +5 to damning ninja turtles.
 
...So you are in favor of restrictive laws with negative impacts just as long as you are not inconvenienced?
That was my impression.

Among my issues is that eye disease that is the same one that makes Barbara Bush look like this: :eek:

Luckily my eyes only swell up inside my head so I don't look like that, but I get grand headaches, blurred vision, and other fun when the disease acts up. Know what does it? Cigarette smoke. Do I avoid it? Whenever possible. Would I support making it illegal for this reason? Fuck no.
 
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Silvanesti

It's not just inconvienence, it's health, too. I don't like being upwind of people smoking and I sure as hell don't want to be near someone who even SMELLS of pot (because cripes, that shit reeks). As I said in my first reply, just getting a whiff of it sends me gagging.
No, that doesn't sound like health, it sounds like an inconvenience. I don't like being upwind of smoking and don't like the smell either, but cigarettes are not going away any time soon.

seems like your main complaint is that it smells and you don't like it so it should be illegal (in fact all smoking should be). But lets weight the advantages of you not having to smell pot every once in a while to legalizing pot.

cons:
You might have to smell pot smoke occasionally
cheetos and funions might be harder to find (har har cus of da muchies)

Pros:
Increased tax income
end prison overpopulation
stop the unnecessary imprisonment of thousands of people
decrease the impact and expense of the 'war on drugs'
stop a source of funding for illegal activities
and probably more things then I am thinking of right now.

but yeah, that doesn't matter, as long as you don't have to smell some nasty pot smoke.
 

doomdragon6

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You forgot the con: A bunch of fucking stoned-ass dipshits everywhere.

Having been around friends that absolutely suck when they're high, no thanks.

Medicinal, whatever, fine.
 
aaaah Potland, i used to know Maastricht better than my own city.

yeah, well i've smoked ALOT and i agree completely with Ame.

Can't vote on the poll tho since i have smoked what, 1 joint, in the last 2 years.

Pot is bad. you may not feel it at first but it WILL screw your memory if you do it long term.
 
At least it won't give you hallucinations or cause dementia... alcohol is one hell of a drug. Also lowers your risk of heart failure if used moderately.

BTW, does it count if i had no idea how to inhale the only time i got the chance to try it?
 
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Joe Johnson

I never really thought of pot as "expensive". Sure, if you're a daily "wake and bake" user, but I've never been that. When I used to buy, an 1/8th would last me a month. I really didn't hit it that hard. Once I got more of a career job, and a house, I slowly stopped doing it at all. Now with a kid, it's not worth the risk. If it ever becomes legal, I'd probably smoke again, but probably not frequently.

As to the pot mentioned above mixed with tobacco, that sounds awful. I guess if I smoked normal cigarettes, that'd be a way to get both in one little package - however, I like the effects of pot, don't like the effects of nicotine.
 
It's very simple: I wholeheartedly supported the by-law passed here in Canada to ban smoking indoors. I hated going to restaurants, bars, etc, and inhaling all that secondhand smoke. HATED it.

So, it pot was legalized, people would be doing it more openly and freely in public, just like cigarettes. To that, I say, no thanks.
You could you know not be an asshole and fuck everyone else over and not be a patron of those establishments, go somewhere that doesn't allow smoking. They just banned smoking in all indoor places except Casinos(because they fucking bribe the shit out of the local gov) and it's bullshit, people bitch that they don't want to smell the smoke... then don't go to that bar or that restaurant. I kind of enjoyed going to IHOP or Village Inn with my friends and just smoking and shooting the shit till 5AM but now I can't do that.


As for your allergy and pot shouldn't be legal because of it? Should flowers that create pollen, peanut butter, latex, citrus, shellfish all be banned? Those are things that a lot of people are allergic to.
 
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ThatNickGuy

It's not just smell. It's the same thing with secondhand smoke in that it's bad for my health. I actually enjoy breathing fresh air, as opposite inhaling something bad for my lungs. When someone comes into the store that reeks of freshly smoked pot, I'm coughing enough to cough up a lung.

I notice in all the pros you mention, not a single HEALTH benefit, which is the same as smoking. You could say a stress reliever, but there are dozens of better, healthier ways to do that (exercise, yoga, meditation, etc). Medicinal purposes, maybe, but I question how many people REALLY need it for medicinal purposes as opposed to just having a legal source (like that episode of Scrubs with Turtle...or was it Johnny?)

And like I said, HoboNinja, it's not just the smell of the smoke. It's the health of it. Hey, is smoking good for your heath? No, of course not. Even people who smoke know that. So why can't someone go to a restaurant and enjoy their food, maybe even enjoy the smell of it without having to worry about secondhand lung cancer?

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Frick, when I go to save my edit, it's taking forever and a half. Ignore the above post and refer to this, instead. If one of the mods wants to fix it, I'd be grateful.

It's not just smell. It's the same thing with secondhand smoke in that it's bad for my health. I actually enjoy breathing fresh air, as opposite inhaling something bad for my lungs. When someone comes into the store that reeks of freshly smoked pot, I'm coughing enough to cough up a lung.

I notice in all the pros you mention, not a single HEALTH benefit, which is the same as smoking. You could say a stress reliever, but there are dozens of better, healthier ways to do that (exercise, yoga, meditation, etc). Medicinal purposes, maybe, but I question how many people REALLY need it for medicinal purposes as opposed to just having a legal source (like that episode of Scrubs with Turtle...or was it Johnny?)

I'm all for a reduction in crime, but really, marijuana isn't the only drug out there. Do we legalize cocaine, next? Speed? Esctasy? Cocaine, if anything, is the most profitable drug from crime. Of course, I don't have any statistics to back that up, but that's just a guess.

And like I said, HoboNinja, it's not just the smell of the smoke. It's the health of it. Hey, is smoking good for your heath? No, of course not. Even people who smoke know that. So why can't someone go to a restaurant and enjoy their food, maybe even enjoy the smell of it without having to worry about secondhand lung cancer?
 
It's not just smell. It's the same thing with secondhand smoke in that it's bad for my health. I actually enjoy breathing fresh air, as opposite inhaling something bad for my lungs. When someone comes into the store that reeks of freshly smoked pot, I'm coughing enough to cough up a lung.

I notice in all the pros you mention, not a single HEALTH benefit, which is the same as smoking. You could say a stress reliever, but there are dozens of better, healthier ways to do that (exercise, yoga, meditation, etc). Medicinal purposes, maybe, but I question how many people REALLY need it for medicinal purposes as opposed to just having a legal source (like that episode of Scrubs with Turtle...or was it Johnny?)

And like I said, HoboNinja, it's not just the smell of the smoke. It's the health of it. Hey, is smoking good for your heath? No, of course not. Even people who smoke know that. So why can't someone go to a restaurant and enjoy their food, maybe even enjoy the smell of it without having to worry about secondhand lung cancer?

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Frick, when I go to save my edit, it's taking forever and a half. Ignore the above post and refer to this, instead. If one of the mods wants to fix it, I'd be grateful.

It's not just smell. It's the same thing with secondhand smoke in that it's bad for my health. I actually enjoy breathing fresh air, as opposite inhaling something bad for my lungs. When someone comes into the store that reeks of freshly smoked pot, I'm coughing enough to cough up a lung.

And like I said, HoboNinja, it's not just the smell of the smoke. It's the health of it. Hey, is smoking good for your heath? No, of course not. Even people who smoke know that. So why can't someone go to a restaurant and enjoy their food, maybe even enjoy the smell of it without having to worry about secondhand lung cancer?
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I consider smoking in a restaurant as undesirable as your cook shitting on your plate next to your steak before the server brings it out to you. For all of the whining about "Business lost because of banning smoking in bars/restaurants", it completely misses the side of "Business gained because more people go out to bars/restaurant and enjoy it".

Sitting at a restaurant and smoking and shooting the shit doesn't exactly make that business money. And I won't go to a restaurant/bar that allows smoking in it - I'm fairly certain I'll spend more between my wife and I than some punk kid will sitting with 4 friends.

I live in BC, Canada. Believe me, if anyone knows pot, it's us. BC Bud is our #1 export around where I live.
 
Do we legalize cocaine, next? Speed? Esctasy?
Yes.



Don't know what to say now, do you? (insert appropriate snarky emoticon here, because I haven't figured out how to do so yet on this new board)


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For all of the whining about "Business lost because of banning smoking in bars/restaurants", it completely misses the side of "Business gained because more people go out to bars/restaurant and enjoy it".
That's the thing, though. The restaurant owner should be able to decide whether or not to allow smoking in his or her establishment. And you, the patron, should also be able to decide whether or not you want to go to an establishment that you know allows smokers, or choose one that does not.

Across the board banning is heavy handed and all around stupid. And this coming from someone who fucking hates cigarette smoke.
 
I'm all for a reduction in crime, but really, marijuana isn't the only drug out there. Do we legalize cocaine, next? Speed? Esctasy? Cocaine, if anything, is the most profitable drug from crime. Of course, I don't have any statistics to back that up, but that's just a guess.
Why not? Legalize them and tax them. Takes revenue from the drug cartels, takes heat off the police, the government gets money to fund rehab/social programs and (iirc, don't make me google for the links now) consumption of the hard drugs wouldn't go up.

For more reasons, http://www.leap.cc/
 
That's the thing, though. The restaurant owner should be able to decide whether or not to allow smoking in his or her establishment. And you, the patron, should also be able to decide whether or not you want to go to an establishment that you know allows smokers, or choose one that does not.

Across the board banning is heavy handed and all around stupid. And this coming from someone who fucking hates cigarette smoke.
Except the issue around 'banning smoking in restaurants' isn't prevalent because of the economics of the patrons but the health and safety of the workers. As an employer, you don't get to choose which legislation you get to follow around health and safety. If your employees are exposed to environments which will significantly affect their health, you are required by law to ensure that those risks are mitigated and/or removed completely. As a patron of smoking establishments, I feel gross. As an employee of a smoking establishment, I can only imagine what spending 8 hours a day in that environment would do. It's no less damaging than slight exposure to asbestos, and we certainly wouldn't be arguing "It's up to the company whether or not to use Asbestos in their establishment."

All of this said, there are many, many ways around this legislation including having designated, well-ventilated smoking rooms, comfortable patios, etc.

I always found it curious that most serving staff at restaurants were smokers. Then I realized that at least when they're personally smoking, they are breathing in the smoke through a filter.

Let's add some stats here too:

Heavily exposed service industry employees, such as bartenders, inhale the equivalent of smoking 1.5 to 2 packages of cigarettes a day, according to a fact sheet prepared by British Columbia's Capital Region District.

Food service workers are 50 per cent more likely to develop lung cancer than the general population. Waitresses have the highest mortality of any occupational group, with four times the expected deaths from lung cancer and 2.5 times the expected mortality from heart disease.

Now there's evidence that smoking bans can improve the lung health of hospitality industry workers. When California passed a law prohibiting smoking in bars and taverns effective January 1 1998, University of California researchers launched a study. Examining 53 San Francisco bartenders, they found that 59 per cent of those reporting respiratory problems before the ban went into effect were symptom-free less than two months after the prohibition began.

Source: http://www.sk.lung.ca/ca/articles/smokingbans.html

A significant body of scientific research has been accumulated on the economic impact of smoking bans on hospitality business, particularly bars and restaurants. The only research that shows any long-term negative effect on bar or restaurant sales is unscientific research that has been sponsored by the tobacco companies.
All independent published studies conducted in the US and Canada that used tax data in the analysis concluded that "smoking restrictions do not impact negatively on hospitality sales, employment, or tourism activity in the long run."
* An analysis of restaurant sales in 235 Massachusetts communities before and after the implementation of a smoking ban found no difference in aggregate sales.
* A study of the impact of no-smoking ordinances on hotel revenues and international tourism in 3 states (California, Utah, and Vermont) and 6 cities (Boulder, Flagstaff, Los Angeles, Mesa, New York and San Francisco) found that tourism increased in four localities, and stayed the same in four others.
* A study on the impact of New York City's smoke-free ordinance on restaurants found that real taxable sales from eating and drinking increased over levels two years earlier. Restaurant sales increased 2.1% in NYC, while decreasing 3.8% in the same time period in the rest of the state.4 Another study of the NYC smoking ban found that although smokers were eating out less, non-smokers were eating out much more and restaurant revenues increased.
* A study of bar patronage conducted 2.5 years after smoking was banned in California bars found that 91% of bar customers were either going to bars more often or had not changed their behaviour as a result of the law. Furthermore, support for the ban among smokers increased dramatically from 24% to 44%.
* A study of the economic impact of the short-lived province-wide ban on smoking in bars and restaurants in BC found a short term decline in alcohol sales in hotels, pubs, and dining establishments. By the second month of the ban, however, the impact was no longer statistically significant.
* To assess the impact of the smoking ban on the Capital Region District in BC a study was conducted using liquor purchase data. A short-term statistically significant decline of 6.4% was found. The long-term impacts were not statistically significant. A separate analysis of establishments in the CRD but outside the City of Victoria was done to eliminate the impact of tourism. The results likewise showed that the long-term impacts were not significant.

Source: http://www.tobaccotoolkit.ca/Tobacco_toolkit/Economicimpact.html
 
Honestly, I'm just wondering why people hate being upwind of smoke (pot or cigarette) as smoke blows downwind, not up it.
 
Honestly, I'm just wondering why people hate being upwind of smoke (pot or cigarette) as smoke blows downwind, not up it.
I guess we don't all have Karl Rove weather machines and so cannot control the direction of the wind. I suppose we could all move in circles as the wind changes direction but that would look awfully strange to an outsider.
 
A significant body of scientific research has been accumulated on the economic impact of smoking bans on hospitality business, particularly bars and restaurants. The only research that shows any long-term negative effect on bar or restaurant sales is unscientific research that has been sponsored by the tobacco companies.
All independent published studies conducted in the US and Canada that used tax data in the analysis concluded that "smoking restrictions do not impact negatively on hospitality sales, employment, or tourism activity in the long run."
MY mom does the books for a couple bar/restaurants, and when they put the ban into effect in Mn they saw an increase in food sales and the booze sales stayed about the same.
 
Smoking (or ingesting even if you will) that stuff can definitely damage your brain. I know you'll disagree with the following statement but smoking marijuana can most definitely hurt you on the long term.
No, I'm sorry but your saying so isn't enough. I've researched this, there are NO conclusive studies that say Marijuana has damaging effects to the brain. None. Can you produce any that weren't sponsored during the Reefer Madness and killed monkeys by suffocating them with smoking machines? Can you link me to a pot-induced death? A study in the adverse reaction of neurons to THC?

Or is your first-hand experience all you have? Just because you see stoners acting like they have brain damage, it doesn't mean they have brain damage.

That being said, read what I said.. I never said pot was GOOD for you, I just said it's healthier than ALCOHOL. The long term effects of alcohol are NOTHING compared to those of pot, but booze is still legal.
 
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