Spider-Man 4 swinging into theaters May 2011? No, Never. Raimi out, reboot time

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This should be interesting. If Raimi isn't allowed to make the movie the way he wants to he'll have to go even more over the top. Will Spider-Man 4 have Kraven fall for the Lizard and give up hunting to live out his dream of being in spider themed musicals?
 
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Shegokigo;256761][quote=Amorous Eyes said:
What's with the hate on Kirsten Dunst? I dun get it..

I think she looks cute.
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Cause Mary Jane Watson was not meant to be cute, she was supposed to be a redheaded bombshell.

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The funny thing is that with those head angles, their faces look very similar! They have almost identical cheeklines.
 
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What drives me batty about #3 and the females is they took a blonde and made her a redhead (Dunst) and they took a redhead and made her a blonde (Howard).

I mean sure, Bryce isn't 'supermodel' material by any Hollywood definition, but Dunst? DUNST?



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Shegokigo;256761][quote=Amorous Eyes said:
What's with the hate on Kirsten Dunst? I dun get it..

I think she looks cute.
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Cause Mary Jane Watson was not meant to be cute, she was supposed to be a redheaded bombshell.

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Well, let's not forget that Spider-Man was supposed to be a wisecracking smartass, and they kind of dropped the ball on that one as well.
 
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my interest in the thor movie increased greatly when i found out who was playing odin.

BRIAN BLESSED!




:D
 
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One of the greats (can't remember who) said that the de-nerdification of Peter was one of the worst things that happened to the book. I'm guessing that Raimi probably felt the same. Slicked back hair and supermodel girlfriends take him pretty far from his roots -- even if that changeover happened really early on. I liked Dunst (if it isn't obvious) because she was a good merging of the old down-home Gwen and MJ. (Yeah I know Gwen went all supermodelly before long, too)
 
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I don't think she was much of merger Fade, I think Dunst thought she WAS Gwen Stacy's character instead of Mary Jane. :bush:
 
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I think we're all missing what's important here. Did they get Bruce Campbell?

He was easily the highlight of part 3.
 
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I was gonna make a joke about Bruce Campbell just sitting around looking at his phone,hoping that Raimi makes another Spider-Man movie, but he's doing pretty well for himself with Burn Notice and its huge success.
 
CynicismKills

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I should hope Campbell is in it, he's the only person in the movies to actually beat Spiderman.
 
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Regarding villains, they could probably do fine with any of the rogue's gallery done Spectacular-style. In fact, despite Shego's objections, that series did pretty well with many of the Sinister Six crew. Shocker as a tough, competent mercenary? Yes please. And as for the big bads, well... Tombstone. 'Nuff said.
 
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Iaculus said:
In fact, despite Shego's objections, that series did pretty well with many of the Sinister Six crew.
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No. :humph: I also already mentioned that Kraven and Tombstone were ok. Otherwise, stay the fuck away from Sinister Six.
 
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Shegokigo;259634][quote=Iaculus said:
In fact, despite Shego's objections, that series did pretty well with many of the Sinister Six crew.
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No. :humph:[/QUOTE]

OK, Electro was a bit of an idiot in that continuity, but he certainly got a better outfit.



Also, Vulture:



Maybe a bit too similar to the films' Green Goblin, though.
 
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Can we add Doppelgangers to the NO list?



I wouldn't mind Spider Slayers, if they stayed away from the existing character designs and just went with the basic concept of robots built to kill Spider-Man.
 
blotsfan

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I dunno, seeing Peter bitch and moan for 1:30 wasn't very interesting. At least dancing in the streets Peter was funny.
 
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The only way the sinister 6 would work is as a group, but then you wouldn't be able to develop any of them as characters. It'd be kinda stupid.

Really, it's basically down to Mysterio, Kingpin (in which case I could see Shocker or somebody as a henchmen), or have him fight Spiderman's greatest enemy: Joe Quesada.
 
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Doppleganger looks cool at least. Not sure I want another evil Spidey story right after three.
 
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They wouldn't run out if they didn't pull a "Batman" and give him 3 villains per movie. :explode:
 
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To be honest, if they give him a decent costume rather than the quilted mankini shown here:



... Shocker could be a pretty good secondary villain - a hitman sent to take Spidey out on behalf of the crime bosses, for instance. His weaponry would certainly allow for some visually impressive scenes, especialy in the crowded New York streets where there are so very, very many breakable objects.
 
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He would have to be secondary. He's rather stupid (I mean the character's actual intelligence). You would have to fanservice some quilting in somehow. Can I use fanservice as a verb? But, yeah, it would make for some nice FX.
 
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fade said:
He would have to be secondary. He's rather stupid (I mean the character's actual intelligence). You would have to fanservice some quilting in somehow. Can I use fanservice as a verb? But, yeah, it would make for some nice FX.
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Oh, I don't object to the quilting per se - just the fact that the costume in the comics always reminds me horribly of this:



Intelligence is negotiable - Montana from TSSM, as mentioned, was fairly capable if easily annoyed. Even Herman Schultz wasn't a complete idiot - he designed the shock gauntlets himself, after all. Besides, I think the brute-force nature of his gear is suited better for an anti-super hitman than a thief.
 
Bubble181

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I have to agree Spidey doesn't have any good enemies left... Than again, I'm not really interested in another Spiderman movie, at all.
 
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Kitty Sinatra

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Spidey should take on Al Qaeda. No supervillains of any sort, just terrorists doing villainous things.
 
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Spidey should take on Al Qaeda. No supervillains of any sort, just terrorists doing villainous things.
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And the political correctness will get that script edited so that it's Hydra as the terrorists, and it'll be a bunch of brainwashed guys running around in green and yellow jumpsuits mumbling to themselves, so as not to offend any ethnic or religious groups.
 
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Yeah, I thought about his designing the gauntlets when I posted that. But despite having some engineering know-how, the writers seem to display him as somewhat dim-witted.
 
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figmentPez;259833][quote=Gruebeard said:
Spidey should take on Al Qaeda. No supervillains of any sort, just terrorists doing villainous things.
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And the political correctness will get that script edited so that it's Hydra as the terrorists, and it'll be a bunch of brainwashed guys running around in green and yellow jumpsuits mumbling to themselves, so as not to offend any ethnic or religious groups.[/QUOTE]

That could work quite well. Introduce a second hero, the Punisher would be perfect here, who is out to stop this Hydra and is more than willing to use lethal force against the brainwashed zombies. So Spidey must stop Hydra while simultaneously protecting the brainwashed from the Punisher. And of course, at this point the Punisher also begins to take on Spidey.
 
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