The G20 Protests.

[Le Quack]

I can't believe nobody has posted these videos. It makes me ashamed to be an american. I don't care if you "understand where the cops are coming from." They should not have the power to do this, and they should all be held legally responsible for breaching human rights.









MSNBC cuts off Hugo Chavez to show this.


To me, this is something to fear. Suppressed by our own state.

 

[AshburnerX]

And people say I'm wrong when I say the police have too much power and abuse it routinely.

 

[Chazwozel]

I think the beating of G20 protesters is kinda funny...

 

[SeraRelm]

"Guys! Let's break the law then bitch about it when we get in trouble for it!"

All I'm sayin' on this topic. Peace.

 

[Le Quack]

The point is that they didn't break the law. They had maybe 5-10 people who were protesting, and the rest were college students on their campus. The police should NOT have this type of power.

 

[Krisken]

I'll have to do some research before I have an opinion on this one. Just out of curiosity, what law are they supposedly breaking? From where I sit it looks like Police intimidation.

 

[Kitty Sinatra]

I'll have to do some research before I have an opinion on this one. Just out of curiosity, what law are they supposedly breaking? From where I sit it looks like Police intimidation.

Illegal Assembly is one I heard (not necessarily in this instance) because you need a permit to protest in Pittsburgh.

 

[Rob King]

I'm not sure I understand. Protesters got rowdy, police reacted, and somehow we're living in Nazi Germany?

 

[Le Quack]

Protesters only got rowdy AFTER the police reacted.

 

[Kitty Sinatra]

We're actually living in pre-union times. This is how the police treated strikers back then.

 

[Chippy]

I'm not sure I understand. Protesters got rowdy, police reacted, and somehow we're living in Nazi Germany?

Don't you get it, maaaaan? They have, like, power and stuff. We can't do what we want. It's like we're in the Soviet Union!

 

[Rob King]

Protesters only got rowdy AFTER the police reacted.

Did they? I saw police reacting, and then protesters getting rowdy, but I have no reason to trust that the protesters didn't stir shit up before the man with the camera hit 'record.'

I guess what I'm saying is I wasn't there, and those videos don't convince me. I do, however, have trust in law enforcement and disdain for hippies and anarchists.

 

[Krisken]

I'll have to do some research before I have an opinion on this one. Just out of curiosity, what law are they supposedly breaking? From where I sit it looks like Police intimidation.

Illegal Assembly is one I heard (not necessarily in this instance) because you need a permit to protest in Pittsburgh.[/QUOTE]
Which I vehemently oppose. I'm one of those who feel the First Amendment protects the right to protest and that shouldn't be taxed in any way.

 

[AshburnerX]

Protesters only got rowdy AFTER the police reacted.

Did they? I saw police reacting, and then protesters getting rowdy, but I have no reason to trust that the protesters didn't stir shit up before the man with the camera hit 'record.'

I guess what I'm saying is I wasn't there, and those videos don't convince me. I do, however, have trust in law enforcement and disdain for hippies and anarchists.[/QUOTE]

Considering the police in this country have a rich and well documented history of infiltrating crowds of dissenters and having these members cause trouble to allow the police to bust heads, I wouldn't be at all surprised if some funny business was afoot here.

 

[Rob King]

I'll have to do some research before I have an opinion on this one. Just out of curiosity, what law are they supposedly breaking? From where I sit it looks like Police intimidation.

Illegal Assembly is one I heard (not necessarily in this instance) because you need a permit to protest in Pittsburgh.[/QUOTE]
Which I vehemently oppose. I'm one of those who feel the First Amendment protects the right to protest and that shouldn't be taxed in any way.[/QUOTE]

Now ... I've never heard of this before, but it makes sense to me. Protests cost the public money. Even peaceful ones. Taxing it seems sensible. Otherwise, the money paying the public servants responsible for cleaning up has to come from somewhere. Public works budget? Education budget perhaps?

Then you have people uninvolved, and even people who disagree with the protesters essentially paying for the rally.

 

[Covar]

I'll have to do some research before I have an opinion on this one. Just out of curiosity, what law are they supposedly breaking? From where I sit it looks like Police intimidation.

Illegal Assembly is one I heard (not necessarily in this instance) because you need a permit to protest in Pittsburgh.[/QUOTE]
Which I vehemently oppose. I'm one of those who feel the First Amendment protects the right to protest and that shouldn't be taxed in any way.[/QUOTE]

Yea, needing a permit to assemble is something that should be done away with.

 

[Chazwozel]

Durr...they're having a meeting about how to help dee environment durr....

durr...let's protest...we'll really contribute to the meeting and push our ideas through durrr....

durrr...let's hang ourselves from a bridge...durrr

If the police didn't interview, I might have just made a trip out to Pittsburgh to bust up some hippies.

 

[Le Quack]

Wow, that's all I can say, Chaz.

 

[sixpackshaker]

We're actually living in pre-union times. This is how the police treated strikers back then.

So how many are dead? shot? bloodied? broken bones?

 

[Covar]

We're actually living in pre-union times. This is how the police treated strikers back then.

So how many are dead? shot? bloodied? broken bones?[/QUOTE]

You'll never here. Hiding these numbers is part of our Vast Rightwing Conspiracy (R).

I've said to much already.

 

[Krisken]

We're actually living in pre-union times. This is how the police treated strikers back then.

So how many are dead? shot? bloodied? broken bones?[/quote]

You'll never here. Hiding these numbers is part of our Vast Rightwing Conspiracy (R).

I've said to much already.[/QUOTE]
I literally facepalmed when Clinton said that. Both times.

 

[Chazwozel]

Wow, that's all I can say, Chaz.

Oh you don't like that I support the bludgeoning of morons?

 

[Armadillo]

The problem with Youtube videos is that the users often edit them to make a point. We don't see what happened before the videos start, so we don't have all the information we need to come to a conclusion. As such, I'm going to reserve final comment.

Krisken: agreed on the permit to assemble. It's a fundamental right that should not be infringed upon, unless it violates another person's fundamental rights.

 

[Krisken]

Wow, that's all I can say, Chaz.

Oh you don't like that I support the bludgeoning of morons?[/QUOTE]
I don't like that you think you can choose who the morons are. I'm sure plenty of people would bludgeon you given the chance.

 

[Covar]

We're actually living in pre-union times. This is how the police treated strikers back then.

So how many are dead? shot? bloodied? broken bones?[/quote]

You'll never here. Hiding these numbers is part of our Vast Rightwing Conspiracy (R).

I've said to much already.[/QUOTE]
I literally facepalmed when Clinton said that. Both times.[/QUOTE]
My problem is that we, much like the Jewish League, have difficulty doing anything of relevance. I mean sure Bob Costas succeeded in planting Bill Clinton's sperm on Monica's dress, but since then we've really been having trouble focusing.

aranoid:

 

[Seraphyn]

On the one hand, I feel for the people getting teargassed, on the other hand, they're G20 protesters so I don't. On average this gets a "meh".

 

[SeraRelm]

Wow, that's all I can say, Chaz.

Oh you don't like that I support the bludgeoning of morons?[/QUOTE]
I don't like that you think you can choose who the morons are. I'm sure plenty of people would bludgeon you given the chance.[/QUOTE]
I doubt that bothers him.

 

[Armadillo]

G20 protesters would probably get a lot more sympathy were it not for the rock-throwing and business-window-smashing that seems to follow them everywhere. You'll note that this sort of thing hasn't occurred at the Tea Party protests or that march on Washington a couple of weeks ago. I'm a-just sayin'...

 

[Krisken]

G20 protesters would probably get a lot more sympathy were it not for the rock-throwing and business-window-smashing that seems to follow them everywhere. You'll note that this sort of thing hasn't occurred at the Tea Party protests or that march on Washington a couple of weeks ago. I'm a-just sayin'...

I know I've read studies that show that when there is an increased police presence, there is a greater chance of violence. That may be a coincidence, however.

Edit: Besides, people are probably too concerned the nut carrying the loaded gun next to them will use it

 

[Covar]

G20 protesters would probably get a lot more sympathy were it not for the rock-throwing and business-window-smashing that seems to follow them everywhere. You'll note that this sort of thing hasn't occurred at the Tea Party protests or that march on Washington a couple of weeks ago. I'm a-just sayin'...

I know I've read studies that show that when there is an increased police presence, there is a greater chance of violence. That may be a coincidence, however.[/QUOTE]

Think its hard to put causality to that. One can just as easily say that when there's a greater chance of violence the police increase their presence.

 

[@Li3n]

Bah... this is how you do it police:




they've grown soft this century...

 

[Armadillo]

G20 protesters would probably get a lot more sympathy were it not for the rock-throwing and business-window-smashing that seems to follow them everywhere. You'll note that this sort of thing hasn't occurred at the Tea Party protests or that march on Washington a couple of weeks ago. I'm a-just sayin'...

I know I've read studies that show that when there is an increased police presence, there is a greater chance of violence. That may be a coincidence, however.

Edit: Besides, people are probably too concerned the nut carrying the loaded gun next to them will use it [/QUOTE]

Ya see? Exercising of Second Amendment rights = no crazy violence at economic summits! Everybody wins!

 

[Covar]

G20 protesters would probably get a lot more sympathy were it not for the rock-throwing and business-window-smashing that seems to follow them everywhere. You'll note that this sort of thing hasn't occurred at the Tea Party protests or that march on Washington a couple of weeks ago. I'm a-just sayin'...

I know I've read studies that show that when there is an increased police presence, there is a greater chance of violence. That may be a coincidence, however.

Edit: Besides, people are probably too concerned the nut carrying the loaded gun next to them will use it [/QUOTE]

Ya see? Exercising of Second Amendment rights = no crazy violence at economic summits! Everybody wins! [/QUOTE]
Except the guy with the gun. rly:

 

[SpecialKO]

I can't really tell what's going on in those videos. The first one sure looked like textbook police intimidation, but they didn't actually do anything.

Whatever happened, the whole concept of illegal assembly is disgusting and should be done away with.

Yes, it logistically costs the public when protests happen, but that's a cost that any free society should be willing to live with in exchange for having a free society.

Hell, if you're worried about the financial aspects of the clean-up, the city of Pittsburgh should sell special hot dog and food cart licenses letting licensees line the blocks around the protest area and sell food and beverages to protesters. The city makes money off the licenses, the vendors make money selling food that the protesters can afford, the protesters get to shout a lot, everybody wins.

 

[crono1224]

Problem is can't really tell what happened prior, if police were just being overly protective of the area or if something the protestors did set them off. The girl on the bike i almost wish got hit with a damn batton, she was pushed on her bike cause they are trying to clear the area and she was going slow and they wanted it to be in a timely fashion, and she turned around and threw a bike at the police officer which is unacceptable.

Also if they start clearing an area, and people stay it doesn't matter for what reason they are part of the riot or protest simply by being there, aka if you aren't part of that you should make sure to get the hell out.