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Alucard
I have to agree with Penny Arcades strip of the markets oversaturation of vampire films. I mean whats next werewolves or mummies?
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/
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Kitty Sinatra
I saw some bullshit idea recently that goes like something this:
-When Republicans are in power (or gaining power), there's a tonne of zombie films as a metaphor for the lower class rising up.
-When Democrats are in power (or gaining power), there's a tonne of vampire films as a metaphor for the upper class oppressing the little folk.
So, we'll suffer through vampires for a couple more years, then we'll be back to yet another remake of Dawn of the Dead.
-When Republicans are in power (or gaining power), there's a tonne of zombie films as a metaphor for the lower class rising up.
-When Democrats are in power (or gaining power), there's a tonne of vampire films as a metaphor for the upper class oppressing the little folk.
So, we'll suffer through vampires for a couple more years, then we'll be back to yet another remake of Dawn of the Dead.
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ThatNickGuy
I, for one, can't wait for a revitilzation of interest in Killer Klowns From Outer Space.
It's gonna happen.
Someday.
*sniff* Someday.
It's gonna happen.
Someday.
*sniff* Someday.
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Heavan
I had a dream, likely influenced by that comic, that tree people (leaves for hair, wooden bodies, you know, tree people) were the next hot thing and that thanks to a dream I got out ahead on it and was now a millionaire. I'm trying to make that reality but I don't know what sort of tree people products I can create.
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Philosopher B.
Mummies are soooooo dreamy.
*Swoons*
*Swoons*
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Iaculus
Paaaging Dr. Freud...
Paaaging Dr. Freud...[/QUOTE]
The doc is busy being attracted to his mum (google Freud, he's the one that actually hated papa and liked mummy, way to project there).
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Iaculus
Paaaging Dr. Freud...[/QUOTE]
The doc is busy being attracted to his mum (google Freud, he's the one that actually hated papa and liked mummy, way to project there).[/QUOTE]
That was... kind of the joke.
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JCM
I grew up reading Anne Rice, although anything after Armand sucks (but for Blackwood farm), it seems just a bunch of kids trying to ape her style.
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Libertarians 2012. (I keed.)
So what do werewolves represent? Independents?
figmentPez
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Next up: talking skulls. Murray and Morte star in a buddy-cop movie.
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JCM
So what do werewolves represent? Independents?[/QUOTE]Ron Paul.
North_Ranger
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I don't mind vampires.
I do mind vampires being presented as teenage/twenty-something emo bitches, though.
You are fucking immortal, and you drink fucking blood from the fucking living! Stop sounding like a whiny thirteen-year-old boy crying his black-mascaraed eyes out in a chat room!!
I do mind vampires being presented as teenage/twenty-something emo bitches, though.
You are fucking immortal, and you drink fucking blood from the fucking living! Stop sounding like a whiny thirteen-year-old boy crying his black-mascaraed eyes out in a chat room!!
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JCM
that made me LOL.
werewolf movies are so 25 years ago.
Green_Lantern
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So what do werewolves represent? Independents?[/QUOTE]Ron Paul.[/QUOTE]
I always though it was furries.
So what do werewolves represent? Independents?[/quote]Ron Paul.[/quote]
I always though it was furries.[/QUOTE]
Same thing really...
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kaykordeath
Has there ever been a good strong Vampire origin story? I admit to not ever having read Dracula (it's on the list, I promise) but when I was watching True Blood with the wifey, and they talked about vampires being around for thousands of years, I got to wonder about the first one....so have any of the dozens of interpretations ever attempted to explain WHY/WHEN they came about?
I remember Blade saying Judas was transformed into a vampire as punishment. He couldn't commit sucide, as he tried, and silver (because of the money he got form the romans) and christian symbols (for obvious reasons) hurt him and his descendants.
It kind of works, but I don't think we need an origin of the first vampire! Vampires ARE. And that's all.
Well I think It was Blade, but I'm not sure...
I remember Blade saying Judas was transformed into a vampire as punishment. He couldn't commit sucide, as he tried, and silver (because of the money he got form the romans) and christian symbols (for obvious reasons) hurt him and his descendants.
It kind of works, but I don't think we need an origin of the first vampire! Vampires ARE. And that's all.
Well I think It was Blade, but I'm not sure...[/QUOTE]
Trying to explain why the unexplainable exists can really kill a story. Highlander 2 - They are ALIENS... The Phantom Menace - The Force is all-powerful, microscopic bacteria
Then again Dracula's origin was pretty cool.
He cursed God and got cursed back.
Anne Rice went with a king and queen going to perform an exorcist and getting stabbed to death in the process, allowing whatever they were there to remove access to their bloodstream...something like that anyway. I agree with sixpackshaker, although I believe that was just the movie. I've read Dracula a couple of times (great book, BTW), and as I recall, he just was.
I remember Blade saying Judas was transformed into a vampire as punishment. He couldn't commit sucide, as he tried, and silver (because of the money he got form the romans) and christian symbols (for obvious reasons) hurt him and his descendants.
It kind of works, but I don't think we need an origin of the first vampire! Vampires ARE. And that's all.
Well I think It was Blade, but I'm not sure...[/QUOTE]
Trying to explain why the unexplainable exists can really kill a story. Highlander 2 - They are ALIENS... The Phantom Menace - The Force is all-powerful, microscopic bacteria
Then again Dracula's origin was pretty cool.
He cursed God and got cursed back.
I've read Dracula twice and I can't remember that detail... where is that explained?
Oh, I've just seen the movie like... half time. XP (You mean the Universal classic one?)
I have seen that one exactly the same amout of times. Also Horror of Dracula and Nosferatu... I was helping my brother do some work about vampires, so I didn't actually watch the movies as much as look for some stuff in them.
figmentPez
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I don't think I've heard of anything that is actually set in the period of the first vampires, but there are lots of different origin stories floating about. Some say that Cain (of Biblical story of Cain and Abel) was the first vampire. I think Buffy the Vampire Slayer said they were leftovers from when greater demons were mostly cast out of our dimension, part-demons that were mere fractions of the great powers that used to rule humanity. The Underworld movies have a convoluted plot where they're all descended from a mutated human or something.
I don't think I've heard of anything that is actually set in the period of the first vampires, but there are lots of different origin stories floating about. Some say that Cain (of Biblical story of Cain and Abel) was the first vampire. I think Buffy the Vampire Slayer said they were leftovers from when greater demons were mostly cast out of our dimension, part-demons that were mere fractions of the great powers that used to rule humanity. The Underworld movies have a convoluted plot where they're all descended from a mutated human or something.[/QUOTE]
Basically every mythology has a different explination.
/rant on
In the novel, Dracula is just a thing of evil, there's never any explination as to why other than that in life, Vlad was one sick bastard. The movie (which I hate, BTW) purports to be the truest interpretation of the novel, but I totally disagree. The whole love beyond the ages bullshit was never part of the original novel. There was nothing special about Mina in the novel other than that she was one of the main characters. I don't know where the interpretation came from that she was the reincarnation of a past love of Dracula's. Her seduction was about defiling her, not about love.
/rant off
I think the Cain and Abel thing comes mostly from Vampire: The Masquerade
Some mythologies have Lilith (Adam's second wife) as the first vampire.
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kaykordeath
See, that's kinda what I thought...
And while I agree with the concept that explaining the unexplained usually sucks, I'm also a sucker for origin stories...and would love to see someone take on an epic attempt at this. There's gotta be some great groundwork in a "first vampire" story...
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