Rules/Infractions Speak now or forever hold your peace.

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Dave

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Here's the rules. This is your chance to amend, ask questions and let me know if we need to add/subtract things. Yes, they will look familiar to some as I stole from places like Something Awful, Forumopolis, etc.

Okay, I've done some work on the rules and stuff, but want to know what you guys think.

Infraction points - Users will be given infraction points, which will determine in most cases their ban level. In most cases the person will start with a simple warning but that does not have to be the case. Bans will happen automatically based on infraction level. Please note that infraction points will drop off after 1 month so if you give 5 points in 1 month those 5 points will disappear.

1 Hour Ban - 5 Points
24 Hour Ban - 10 Points
1 Month Ban - 20 Points
PermaBan - 50 Points

So if you give someone a 3 point infraction then they are closer to a 1 hour ban than just giving 1 point. If you give someone a 1 hour ban then they also get 5 points automatically. If this takes them up to 10 points then the ban automatically moves to 24 hours.

Rules:


  1. [FONT=&quot]Child Porn[/FONT][FONT=&quot] – [/FONT]Anyone posting images, either photographic or drawn, of boys and girls who appear underage in sexual or suggestive situations, OR tell stories or events that advocate child pornography or sexual abuse will be permabanned immediately. This is non-negotiable[FONT=&quot].[/FONT]
  2. [FONT=&quot]Arguing with Infraction – [/FONT][FONT=&quot]If a mod assesses an infraction point or points and you do not agree, you have the right to send that mod or the admins a PM or email to discuss. Whining will probably get you nowhere. If you decide to create a thread or take your complaint public be ready to take 5 points and a 1 hour ban.[/FONT]
  3. [FONT=&quot]Hate Speech [/FONT][FONT=&quot]– We are a very open community and have many, many walks of life. We have people from many races, sexual orientations and religions. Knowing this, hate speech will not be tolerated. Racial epithets or slurs against sexual orientation are not going to be tolerated. If these are reported we will take action. At the very least a warning and 1 point infraction will be assessed, although it is up to the discretion of the mod to give more.[/FONT]
  4. [FONT=&quot]NSFW Material –[/FONT][FONT=&quot] We have a NSFW area for these things. If you think it’s something that is pertinent to the discussion then please put it in spoiler tags with a note that it’s NSFW. As this is one of those open areas which offend some and not others please use discretion if in doubt. If a mod is forced to spoiler it for you then it’ll result in a 1 point warning. This includes such things as graphic nudity, porn, victim pics, etc. Again, if in doubt - PM a mod.[/FONT]
  5. [FONT=&quot]Warez/Drugs/Other Illicit Activities –[/FONT][FONT=&quot] May be discussed on an academic basis or in passing. No instruction, detailed accounts, or the like will be tolerated. Doing so will get you 5 points and a 1 hour ban. If in doubt, take it to PMs.[/FONT]
  6. [FONT=&quot]Spam - [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Members who register and immediately start posting spam links will be banned. If an existing user wants to pimp their page or advertise something that’s more than fine. If it gets out of hand we’ll ask you to stop. Only after that will any points be assessed.[/FONT]
  7. [FONT=&quot]Trolling -[/FONT][FONT=&quot] We have no problems with heated discussion, but require you keep it to the subject at hand. If you're making uncalled for personal attacks or simply posting to get a rise out of another member, you will get very little warnings before there will be repercussions. As a corollary to this, do not randomly attack a poster who has not even contributed to the discussion yet. This is also considered trolling and will be met with the same punishment. Please note that we will take into account who submitted the report as some people take offense too quickly. It will be up to a mod’s discretion whether to assess a point with the warning or to just send a PM.[/FONT]
  8. [FONT=&quot]No alt trolling.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] Creating an alt can be fun & is allowed. However, creating an alt specifically to troll will result in a 1 point infraction and warning for the primary account and a deletion of the alt account. Also, no registering a new account because you have a bad reputation or multiple points. Creation of an alt to circumvent infractions will automatically bump you up to the next level of infraction.[/FONT]
  9. [FONT=&quot]Cite your sources.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] Do not paste quotes from other sources without attribution, especially doing this as a way to post offensive statements with the defense that you were only quoting someone else. In this situation, be prepared to deal with the consequences of having your posts taken at face value. No infractions will be given, you'll just look like a prat.
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  10. [FONT=&quot]Do not try and play the rules lawyer.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] Continually skirting the line between rule-breaking and not is unacceptable. The spirit of the rules is important as well as the letter. Basically, don't be a dick. If a warning needs to be given then it will.[/FONT]
  11. [FONT=&quot]Thread Tags.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] When creating a thread, please remember to choose a tag appropriate to the subject. Generally, using a tag for comedy purposes is acceptable. However, tags that break other rules such as trolling or racist/personal attacks will be deleted and the person putting them in will get a warning at the very least. Tags are NOT anonymous to the mods so be aware we know who put them in. [/FONT]
  12. [FONT=&quot]Spoilers.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] A \"spoiler\" is a statement or piece of information that gives away information about the story of a book or film. An Ambush Spoiler is a spoiler in a thread which does not use our spoiler tag in a thread that has not been marked as having spoilers. There is a certain statute of limitations on what can and cannot be spoilered. Things which are common knowledge (IE: Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker's father, Hamlet dies at the end of the play, etc.) can safely be left unspoilered. Basically if it's over a year old it should be safe.
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[FONT=&quot]To use spoiler tags...
If you type this: [.spoiler.]This is a spoiler which folk may not want to read[./spoiler.](without the periods in the tags)
Your post will show with: [/FONT]
This is a spoiler.
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To read the spoiler, simply click the spoiler button.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Not using spoilers will not result in a warning, unless it is done so in a way that is obviously trolling.[/FONT]

  1. [FONT=&quot]Bannings[/FONT]
    • [FONT=&quot]If you're banned, do not create new accounts to get around it. This will increase the length of the ban and may lead to a permanent banning. [/FONT]
    • [FONT=&quot]If you're banned, don't argue about it pointlessly. [/FONT]
    • [FONT=&quot]No posting on behalf of a banned member. Discussion of the member is permitted; being a loudspeaker for them is not.[/FONT]
  2. [FONT=&quot]Plagiarism -[/FONT][FONT=&quot] This includes (but isn't limited to) both writing and drawing. The basic definition is taking credit for other people's work, or trying to pass other's work off as your own (partially or wholly). For more on plagiarism, visit http://www.aug.edu/sociology/plagiarism.html or http://www.indiana.edu/~wts/wts/plagiarism.html. [/FONT]
  3. [FONT=&quot]Mod Discretion –[/FONT][FONT=&quot] Mods will oversee the community and will make decisions in regards to keeping the community functioning and working well.[/FONT]
 
Please clarify how old something needs to be for Spoiler Tags to not be needed. I had some people get on my case about revealing some stuff about Sisko in DS9, despite the show being off the air for ten years, so some clarification needs to be made. Is it 5 years? 10? Or are you basing it on how obscure the source material is?
 
Heh, yeah, spoilers will always be an issue of contention.

I assume I'm allowed to post Mass Effect spoilers in the Mass Effect 2 Anticipation thread still right?
 
I don't really like number 2. Feels a little oppressive.
I actually like #2. It means every time someone gets a point we won't have an endless forum debate about it. What's the point of mods if we don't trust them to moderate?
 
I think if the show is more then say 5 years old or is considered a "classic" in any sense you should not need a spoilers tag, some stuff is crazy like whining about stuff like citizen kane being spoiled for example
 

Dave

Staff member
Please clarify how old something needs to be for Spoiler Tags to not be needed. I had some people get on my case about revealing some stuff about Sisko in DS9, despite the show being off the air for ten years, so some clarification needs to be made. Is it 5 years? 10? Or are you basing it on how obscure the source material is?
Done. Over 1 year does not have to be spoilered but still could be a nice thing to do.
 
Please clarify how old something needs to be for Spoiler Tags to not be needed. I had some people get on my case about revealing some stuff about Sisko in DS9, despite the show being off the air for ten years, so some clarification needs to be made. Is it 5 years? 10? Or are you basing it on how obscure the source material is?
Done. Over 1 year does not have to be spoilered but still could be a nice thing to do.[/QUOTE]

Can we safely assume spoilers are fair game if we mark the thread title with (spoilers) or something?
 

Dave

Staff member
Please clarify how old something needs to be for Spoiler Tags to not be needed. I had some people get on my case about revealing some stuff about Sisko in DS9, despite the show being off the air for ten years, so some clarification needs to be made. Is it 5 years? 10? Or are you basing it on how obscure the source material is?
Done. Over 1 year does not have to be spoilered but still could be a nice thing to do.[/quote]

Can we safely assume spoilers are fair game if we mark the thread title with (spoilers) or something?[/QUOTE]

Always. The spoiler rules are for things inside someone else's thread. If you start a thread and put spoilers in the title then anyone getting bent out of shape about them are kinda dumb.
 
as long as points are distributed fairly and on a known beforehand basis, i have no problem with that.

Our mods are good people so i'm not too worried about it.
 
I guess I'll have to watch my hotlinking. I often link to pictures I find here and there.

Generally speaking, hotlinking is legal (though it may be unwelcome in some cases), whereas copying a file to imageshack may constitute copyright infringement. Therefore, I've been loathe to re-host any images I am hotlinking.
 
Hm.

There are also a bunch of webcartoonists who don't mind hotlinking, and Allen and I post a good bit in the WCAJ.
 

Dave

Staff member
I guess I'll have to watch my hotlinking. I often link to pictures I find here and there.

Generally speaking, hotlinking is legal (though it may be unwelcome in some cases), whereas copying a file to imageshack may constitute copyright infringement. Therefore, I've been loathe to re-host any images I am hotlinking.
You may have a good point there. But again I'm not sure what to do about it. I've come to have a bad view of hotlinking lately. Not sure why, KANYE!!

Thoughts on this one?

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So the hotlinking one may need to be rewritten. Suggestions on how to handle linking?
 
Don't hotlink where the source has requested it? Hmmm...

I have no clue, that rule is generally an etiquette that becomes hard to enforce or police...
 
I have a few questions but have to rush to class right now. Mainly I'd like some clarifications for rule 5 and what is and what is not allowed.

Could I say "I smoked some pot this weekend" in the higher/drunker/wasteder thread?
 
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Chazwozel

Please clarify how old something needs to be for Spoiler Tags to not be needed. I had some people get on my case about revealing some stuff about Sisko in DS9, despite the show being off the air for ten years, so some clarification needs to be made. Is it 5 years? 10? Or are you basing it on how obscure the source material is?
Ah this ol' chestnut...

I say after something's been out for like 3 months (particularly a movie or book) it's fair game.
 

Dave

Staff member
For now I took out the hotlinking. Tin had a great point about image ownership. For now if you want it's fine. But Kurtz still doesn't want hit linked so please don't.

#5 is more about torrent links, confessing murders or giving detailed instructions on suicide, shooting heroin or building bombs. Stuff like that. Saying you smoked pot is not a punishable offense.

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Please clarify how old something needs to be for Spoiler Tags to not be needed. I had some people get on my case about revealing some stuff about Sisko in DS9, despite the show being off the air for ten years, so some clarification needs to be made. Is it 5 years? 10? Or are you basing it on how obscure the source material is?
Ah this ol' chestnut...

I say after something's been out for like 3 months (particularly a movie or book) it's fair game.[/QUOTE]

3 months is too soon. Movies to DVDs take longer than that. Which is why I say a year.
 
I'm not sure if number 9, citing your sources, needs to be a rule. Are points going to be given to people who don't attribute correctly?

How about if we divide the current rules list into "Rules" and "Guidelines"? The Rules would be the firm no-no stuff, the kind of things infraction points would be used for. Guidelines would be for stuff that's basically nice to do. No hotlinking, no plagiarism, citing sources, and spoilers would probably fit better in Guidelines.

Though I can easily imagine someone going, "Oh they're just guidelines, I don't have to follow them."

(Hands up if you read that in Geoffrey Rush's voice)
 
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Please clarify how old something needs to be for Spoiler Tags to not be needed. I had some people get on my case about revealing some stuff about Sisko in DS9, despite the show being off the air for ten years, so some clarification needs to be made. Is it 5 years? 10? Or are you basing it on how obscure the source material is?
Ah this ol' chestnut...

I say after something's been out for like 3 months (particularly a movie or book) it's fair game.
3 months is too soon. Movies to DVDs take longer than that. Which is why I say a year.[/QUOTE]

Plus you have to think of the people on the board who are living overseas where things get released at a later date.
 
Yeah citing sources is a weird one. It's not so much a rule as "if you don't do it you can't necessarily expect anyone to take you seriously".
 
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Chazwozel

I'm not sure if number 9, citing your sources, needs to be a rule. Are points going to be given to people who don't attribute correctly?

How about if we divide the current rules list into "Rules" and "Guidelines"? The Rules would be the firm no-no stuff, the kind of things infraction points would be used for. Guidelines would be for stuff that's basically nice to do. No hotlinking, no plagiarism, citing sources, and spoilers would probably fit better in Guidelines.

Though I can easily imagine someone going, "Oh they're just guidelines, I don't have to follow them."

(Hands up if you read that in Geoffrey Rush's voice)
Aside from the obvious pedobear rule, the source one is fantastic. It'll keep down the crazies in the political forums.
 
Yeah citing sources is a weird one. It's not so much a rule as "if you don't do it you can't necessarily expect anyone to take you seriously".
Haha, that one's directly from Forumopolis. We had a rash of people copy-pasting quotes from FreeRepublic, Stormfront, Hillaryis44, or other insane fringe websites and getting people riled up.

Also from FO is the thread tags rule, which we don't need here since we have no Thread tags?
 

Dave

Staff member
I was never that big on that one. It got left in from another place.

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HA! Sure, right after everyone wanted me to get rid of it...
 
Yeah citing sources is a weird one. It's not so much a rule as "if you don't do it you can't necessarily expect anyone to take you seriously".
Haha, that one's directly from Forumopolis. We had a rash of people copy-pasting quotes from FreeRepublic, Stormfront, Hillaryis44, or other insane fringe websites and getting people riled up.[/QUOTE]


Haha, well yeah, depending on your source, citing it may make people take you even less seriously. :rofl:
 
I don't really like number 2. Feels a little oppressive.
All it says is to leave the pissy little "mod call out" threads in the dumper. PM us if you don't like it and argue for it. It might work, it might now. I don't see what's oppressive about that.
 

Dave

Staff member
I put sources back in but also added the note about not getting an infraction for it.
 
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