My very own, genuine manbawww thread.

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I can't believe I'm asking you chumps... haha I kid, I kid.

Basically the past couple of weeks have been problematic with the girl I was dating. She is one of the closest friends I have here in Hawaii, and probably the first one I made. We'd liked each other for a while and started to do a lot of exclusive stuff together. Eventually I asked her out and things were great... until about three weeks ago.

We've both been under a lot of strain with finals and all that. We also officially broke it off last week. It was hard on both of us. I wanted to act like things were normal, so I still visited her office as usual, like nothing had happened. Nothing crazy, just dropping in for about ten or fifteen minutes to chat. Apparently it was the exact opposite of what I should have done. A friend's birthday dinner Friday night was awkward (there was some outside stuff involved in that) and on Saturday she had a bad day and said I should just leave her alone. So I did until today. She had previously invited me to karaoke tonight with a group so we were gonna see each other anyway. It was just a last big event before everybody left to go home for the holidays.

This morning I visited her office to give back a book she had lent me, along with her Christmas present. She then said she couldn't accept the gift. She also said there were some boundaries I needed to respect and we couldn't even make it as friends if I didn't. She said that even though it wasn't my intent, I had made her uncomfortable last week because there was still some awkwardness remaining in the relationship. She reassured me that she really wanted to preserve the friendship and that was actually why she needed more time and space. So I'm not going to karaoke tonight (my decision), she leaves for home tomorrow, and I'm going home on Friday.

So the deal is no calls, no texts, no e-mails, and no Facebook (but we don't have to remove each other from our friend lists). She promised that she'd try to come around and would let me know when things were okay. As for her present, I'm keeping it safe until we're friends again.

No, I'm not blaming her for anything. I'm man enough to admit it was my fault. So I don't want to hear anybody insulting her. But how long of a wait do you think I'm in for? She and I had been friends since August but a couple lousy weeks served to throw a wrench into the works.
 

Dave

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However long it takes...if ever.

DO NOT sit around and pine for the girl. Accept that it's over and move on. If it happens it happens.
 
I do recall asking if it would be months before we started talking again. She then said it probably wouldn't take that long, but still quite a while.
 
Stay the hell away from that girl before she has to file for a restraining order.


At this point, you should probably be prepared to never see her again. That's the sort of mindset you need. Move on, accept that it's over, and maybe if she ever decides to call you again, you can chat with her or whatever, and it'll be cool.

Also, don't give her that present.
 
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Deschain

It sounds like she just suddenly decided you were a terrible person. I don't understand.
 
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Wasabi Poptart

Dave hit the nail on the head. The wait will be as long as long as it takes. Just leave the girl alone for now. If she really is interested in the friendship, then she will contact you again.
 
It sounds like she just suddenly decided you were a terrible person. I don't understand.
Yeah, I don't quite get it either. How do you go from a relationship to "I can't be around you at all, ever, please leave me alone"
 
It sounds like she just suddenly decided you were a terrible person. I don't understand.
Apparently she's very shy when it comes to relationships and we both got hurt pretty bad when we broke it off. We both have different methods to deal with awkwardness as well. I tried to act like everything was normal and went about the usual routines as if nothing had happened... she needed time and space to think things over and recover. Unfortunately, she hadn't told me that.
 
I have no real advice here, I tend to treat ex's like plague carriers.

I'm really impressed you want to pursue a meaningful friendship with her and one day help her plan her wedding. (Just trying to see if that sparks anything for you mentally on if you're doing the right thing)
 
Yes, I realize that. I can handle the thought of never dating her again, but we were good friends before this. I do NOT want to lose her as a friend, even if she ends up with some other guy.
 
There's a reason why a lot of "let's just be friends" breakups don't work out that way. Oftentimes that element of awkwardness always remains.

Give her time and space, and if you two do end up in a good friendship later on, see it as a bonus. Breakups often mean the end of any real contact between the two people.
 
I with Sheg on this. My exes might as well be dead. That sounds cruel, but they are my exes for a good damned reason. I would just stay away from her, and avoid situations were you might run into her. If she really want to be friends, she'll let you know.
 

Cajungal

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It sounds like she just suddenly decided you were a terrible person. I don't understand.
Yeah, I don't quite get it either. How do you go from a relationship to "I can't be around you at all, ever, please leave me alone"[/QUOTE]

It's understandable. If it was hard on her, and she needs time, there isn't anything wrong with that. It sounds like it came as a big surprise, and ideally she could have told you a little earlier. Not everyone can do what you did, Iron, and bounce back and try to make everything feel normal. It was nice of you to make the effort and let her know you still want her friendship, and it's good that you're being so understanding, even if it's hard. :)

I hope y'all can be friends again, but if I had to guess, I'd say it'll probably be a long while til y'all talk again. What Dave said. Good luck.
 
I'll just keep the present stashed away on the top shelf of my closet. That way I'll know where it is, but won't have to see it every time I change shirts. And no, I won't spy on her Facebook. Besides, we both restricted each others' accounts so we won't be tempted to respond to status updates. I also made a promise to one of my girl friends that if I look at the lady in question's Facebook more than twice in a week, I'd delete her altogether.

She and I are both in the same program at the university, and we're also part of the same honors society in the department. So we'll probably see a lot of each other whether we like it or not. When we get back from winter break, I'll note how she behaves around me and go from there.

And no, I am NOT gonna sit here and pine for her. I'm marking this friendship as "lost" for the time being.
 
I am trying to figure out if this is my ex-wife. This is how the shit went down during my divorce, only through e-mail...hrmm interesting.
 
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Wasabi Poptart

...and don't bother keeping the present, there is a good chance you'll never hear from her again. The present will just be a physical torture device, get rid of it. Sounds harsh, but you'll be better off.
I agree. You shouldn't hold onto the gift. It's hope you're hanging onto, not a present. Return it and buy yourself something. Like a bottle of your favorite alcoholic beverage.
 
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redapples

No, I'm not blaming her for anything. I'm man enough to admit it was my fault.

Yeah its clear from you post that you behaved like a real douche by visiting her and extending the hand of friendship. If I were you I'd hang my head in shame. No forget that your despicable. Never, never go out in public again! If you must remember burlap is your fashion choice along with a large sign in red letters "I'm a bastard! Hate me!"

Sorry if that's not very sympathetic but dude man up.
 
Take the gift back, if you have the receipt.

Delete her from your facebook. Otherwise, the temptation will always be there.

I'm best friends with my ex-fiancee. When I broke up with her, I told her that I needed space and that I'd be in touch when I'd straightened things out. Of course, when I'm hurt or pissed, it's my first instinct to say the most hateful thing I can.

However, in my experience, when girls say that, it's all part of the mind games they play...or some sick, twisted "test".

Cut your ties and let her come to you.
 

Shannow

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Sneak into her place, and cut a lock of her hair from her while she sleeps. That way you will have her....forever.


Or, take a photo of her, and get a realistic realdoll made in her image. it will be like she never left...
 
It is normal behavior on both of your parts. It is difficult to go from bumping uglies to shaking hands. Be friendly, don't count on being friends. Since you have shared friends, NEVER SAY A CROSS THING ABOUT HER. It will only tarnish your reputation and it will get back to her.
 
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Wasabi Poptart

However, in my experience, when girls say that, it's all part of the mind games they play...or some sick, twisted "test".
Whenever I've said it, it was usually because I was creeped out by the guy's clingy behavior. Breaking up doesn't normally mean you flip a switch and be best friends who hang out like nothing's happened no matter how amicable the break up is. If things are awkward, it's going to be better off to let things cool off instead of potentially ruining any shred of friendship that's left. Respect her feelings.
 
Yeah, I don't quite get it either. How do you go from a relationship to "I can't be around you at all, ever, please leave me alone"
I'm sure that the only people who really understand it are women. I mean as much as I freely admit that every one of my exes was a horrible person to be in a relationship with I still wanted to be friends since started dating them because they were fun to hang out with. So I wanted to hang out with them again after everything died down which never really worked out.

Ironbrig if she needs anything like somebody to take over her class or drive her to the airport make sure to be the first one to say that you'll be able to give her a lift or teach her class or feed her cells (I have no idea what program you're in or what kind of help you can offer one another) whatever she's having problems with. Even if she turns down the help you'll still have made a case for why your a good guy to stay friends with.
 
Sounds like she was just using the "let's just be friends" as code for "I don't want to see you anymore".

Women don't say this to "play games" they say this because they don't want to hurt your feelings.
 
Ironbrig if she needs anything like somebody to take over her class or drive her to the airport make sure to be the first one to say that you'll be able to give her a lift or teach her class or feed her cells (I have no idea what program you're in or what kind of help you can offer one another) whatever she's having problems with. Even if she turns down the help you'll still have made a case for why your a good guy to stay friends with.
I'd advice against this. Strongly.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, me too.
 

Dave

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Ironbrig if she needs anything like somebody to take over her class or drive her to the airport make sure to be the first one to say that you'll be able to give her a lift or teach her class or feed her cells (I have no idea what program you're in or what kind of help you can offer one another) whatever she's having problems with. Even if she turns down the help you'll still have made a case for why your a good guy to stay friends with.
I'd advice against this. Strongly.[/quote]

Yeah, me too.[/QUOTE]

Third.

Let. It. Go.

I know you don't want to. I know you're mourning the potential loss of a friend. I grok where you're coming from. But anything you do other than backing away will only make it worse.

Trust the old guy on this.
 
Ironbrig if she needs anything like somebody to take over her class or drive her to the airport make sure to be the first one to say that you'll be able to give her a lift or teach her class or feed her cells (I have no idea what program you're in or what kind of help you can offer one another) whatever she's having problems with. Even if she turns down the help you'll still have made a case for why your a good guy to stay friends with.
I'd advice against this. Strongly.[/QUOTE]

*shrugs* You can take it or leave it however you like. But as far as I see it when people don't call, don't txt don't message each other on Facebook, don't talk, take care not to go on the same group activities and aren't there when one another needs a hand they aren't friends and they never will be.

Continue to be a friend Ironbrig neglect kills friendships not a little awkwardness.
 

Shannow

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Yeah, I don't quite get it either. How do you go from a relationship to "I can't be around you at all, ever, please leave me alone"
I'm sure that the only people who really understand it are women. I mean as much as I freely admit that every one of my exes was a horrible person to be in a relationship with I still wanted to be friends since started dating them because they were fun to hang out with. So I wanted to hang out with them again after everything died down which never really worked out.

Ironbrig if she needs anything like somebody to take over her class or drive her to the airport make sure to be the first one to say that you'll be able to give her a lift or teach her class or feed her cells (I have no idea what program you're in or what kind of help you can offer one another) whatever she's having problems with. Even if she turns down the help you'll still have made a case for why your a good guy to stay friends with.[/QUOTE]
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This plan is genius. Follow through with this advice immediately.
 
"Let's just be friends."

"It will take some time."
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TRANSLATION:
I'm too craven to admit that I no longer care for you, however, I'll maintain a friendly facade in order to pacify my guilty conscience.

SUGGESTION:
Cut your losses and MOVE ON.
 
Yeah, I don't quite get it either. How do you go from a relationship to "I can't be around you at all, ever, please leave me alone"
I'm sure that the only people who really understand it are women. I mean as much as I freely admit that every one of my exes was a horrible person to be in a relationship with I still wanted to be friends since started dating them because they were fun to hang out with. So I wanted to hang out with them again after everything died down which never really worked out.

Ironbrig if she needs anything like somebody to take over her class or drive her to the airport make sure to be the first one to say that you'll be able to give her a lift or teach her class or feed her cells (I have no idea what program you're in or what kind of help you can offer one another) whatever she's having problems with. Even if she turns down the help you'll still have made a case for why your a good guy to stay friends with.[/quote]
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This plan is genius. Follow through with this advice immediately.[/QUOTE]

Image removed. - Ame
 
I know you don't want to. I know you're mourning the potential loss of a friend. I grok where you're coming from. But anything you do other than backing away will only make it worse.

Trust the old guy on this.
I'll do that. And no, I haven't said anything bad about her because we share practically all the same friends on campus. But that won't stop me from going to the usual social functions when the next semester starts. Last night was an exception because it had just happened.
 
Man, what was the image!?
It was your avatar - not sure why ame removed it. It's my modus operandi - if someone says something that is perfectly answered with just their avatar, then I'll post their avatar as the response.

Usually gets a chuckle.
 
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