DRM - The rise of Big Brother in gaming?

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Overflight

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/52531/BioShock-2-DRM-System-Requirements-Revealed/p0/c3/

Steam buyers will have to be logged in to Valve's service, wait for BioShock 2 to unlock, undergo SecuRom activation (and install limits too, most likely), then log in to Games For Windows Live once the game has loaded, and then use it exclusively for multiplayer. With all multiplayer GFWL setups being less than great to date, I have to say that my pessimism for BioShock 2's multiplayer mode has just gone up a notch.
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GOD DAMN IT! I've been meaning to pre purchase the Steam version since I'm curious about the multiplayer and doing so gives me the PC version original Bioshock (sans DRM) for free but thanks to this crap, it's either good old torrent or the PS3 version with the awkward gamepad controls.


Not to sound like a conspiracy nut but it's starting to look like DRM companies may be in cahoots with major developers to make their "protection" purposefully intrusive to drive people toward console gaming where piracy is much less rampant. If people take it up the ass with DRM, the gaming industry wins. If people migrate toward consoles to escape it, the industry wins.


Of course there's the people who torrent the damn games, but then of course the developers use it as their excuse to move towards consoles. Once again they win.

Geez, you'd think that 2K would have learned their lesson with the LAST DRM debacle but noooo. Fuckers. :devil::devil::devil:
 
Frank

Frank

Not AGAIN! (Bioshock 2 DRM)

Are you fucking kidding me? That's like 45 layers of DRM.

Yeah, this game's going to work on 3 PCs.
 
Espy

Espy

Not AGAIN! (Bioshock 2 DRM)

Why is the control scheme bad on the console versions? I played the original on the PS3 and it was smooth as silk?
 
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Chibibar

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I wonder why bother with DRM at all. (at least that many level) what is wrong with just a game key method?
 
@Li3n

@Li3n

Not AGAIN! (Bioshock 2 DRM)

I for one will be enjoying my DRM free pirated version thank you very much...
 
Jay

Jay

Not AGAIN! (Bioshock 2 DRM)

You weren't going to buy the game anyways.

What does the MP entail? Any coop? *hopes*
 
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Overflight

Not AGAIN! (Bioshock 2 DRM)

Basically it's your standard Deathmatch, team deathmatch, etc multiplayer. In fact, it was even developed by the guys who co-developed Unreal Tournament.

However, they did claim it was going to include some story elements: the multiplayer takes place before the fall of Rapture and has you controlling a bunch of guys test running plasmids. You get to see locations from the previous Bioshock in a less rundown state and as you progress through the matches, the characters look more and more spliced.

And besides, setting people on fire, freezing them or throwing stuff at them sounds fun in multiplayer.
 
Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

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Another part of the multi is during the civil war in Rapture.

One could always buy the game and then download the torrent. Then you're not a thief, but you don't have to deal with DRM either. Of course, no multi, but I don't give a shit about that.
 
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Alucard

Not AGAIN! (Bioshock 2 DRM)

So you play it on a console big deal. The PS3 version of the first one was just fine.
 
Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Not AGAIN! (Bioshock 2 DRM)

Don't got a console. No reason I shouldn't be able to play it on PC, and I intend to.

EDIT: Wait a dang minute. This is exactly what happened with the first game. Awful, draconian DRM, and then they removed it a year later.

I can wait.
 
Jay

Jay

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I'll be honest, I don't plan to play the game immediately at launch unless I get a really good deal for a CE copy of the game. If not, I'll just wait till next xmas and get it at a decent price and by then the stupid DRM issues will be gone. But the other half of me though...

WHY DO YOU PERSIST IN YOUR LONELINESS?
 
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Kitty Sinatra

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Shegokigo said:
Wow, I'm gonna mark today. Gruebeard made me guffaw something fierce.
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:humble:

I'd mark it, too, except I figure I've sprayed enough bullets I oughtta hit everyone at least once eventually. And I'd just like to add that I really didn't think moose and keyboard was that funny; but this isn't the first time someone has reacted positively to what I truly thought were mediocre lines. So I figure I might as well just post whatever comes to mind. So yeah, Shego: Sorry but you're to blame for me continuing on so inanely. Halforums ain't gonna be too happy with you :p
 
Seraphyn

Seraphyn

Not AGAIN! (Bioshock 2 DRM)

Seems like this is another game I'll buy and then pirate a copy of to bypass the silly DRM.
 
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Overflight

Not AGAIN! (Bioshock 2 DRM)

All right. a bit of an update:

http://www.2kgames.com/cultofrapture/article/bioshock2drmupdatescaling

Apparently 2K has deleted the SecuROM activation limit. The only limits are those built into GFWL, and those can be renewed by calling a free number for supported countries. Granted, this is bad news for those in non GFWL countries but what can you do. It's tolerable at best, but it could have been worse.

Worse as in something like this:

http://kotaku.com/5457012/ubisofts-pc-games-will-soon-require-an-internet-connection

Ditching the controversial "StarForce" system of digital rights management, Ubisoft will now be moving its PC game copy protection services to Ubi.com accounts.
This new system will allow unlimited installs (rather than the limits seen on other DRM systems like SecuRom), let you play games without a disc in the drive, and even save your games remotely to Ubi's servers, meaning you can swap between computers and pick up right where you left off (similar to how Valve's Steamworks system operates).
The catch? You have to be online to play your games. It's the only way you'll be able to verify with Ubisoft's servers that you're playing a legitimate copy of a game. So if you get intermittent internet connectivity, or travel a lot, or just like playing games on your laptop, you're in trouble, as no "offline" mode will be offered.
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http://www.direct2drive.com/9024/product/Buy-Assassin%27s-Creed-II-Black-Edition-Download

A PERMANENT HIGH SPEED INTERNET CONNECTION AND CREATION OF A UBISOFT ACCOUNT ARE REQUIRED TO PLAY THIS VIDEO GAME AT ALL TIMES AND TO UNLOCK EXCLUSIVE CONTENT. SUCH CONTENT MAY ONLY BE UNLOCKED ONE SINGLE TIME WITH A UNIQUE KEY. YOU MUST BE AT LEAST 13 TO CREATE A UBISOFT ACCOUNT WITHOUT PARENTAL CONSENT. UBISOFT MAY CANCEL ACCESS TO ONLINE FEATURES UPON A 30-DAY PRIOR NOTICE PUBLISHED AT http://assassinscreed.com.
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I'm waiting for Ubisoft to announce at what time of day the Two Minutes Hate of EA will take place.
 
Bowielee

Bowielee

Why can't these places follow steam's example. Tie it to an account and allow an offline mode. I still think that Valve has the best DRM out there. Hell, I prefer buying on steam now as opposed to disk copies of games. It's good when basically a DRM service becomes your preferred method of purchasing games.
 
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Chibibar

Bowielee said:
Why can't these places follow steam's example. Tie it to an account and allow an offline mode. I still think that Valve has the best DRM out there. Hell, I prefer buying on steam now as opposed to disk copies of games. It's good when basically a DRM service becomes your preferred method of purchasing games.
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I like Steam too. It is painless and I don't mind the DRM in it since I can redownload as much as I want when I'm online. I do love the offline feature.
 
Frank

Frank

Well, EA is using that same method for Mass Effect 2 and guess what? SHOCKINGLY enough their servers crashed and now no one can God damn play Mass Effect 2 who hasn't authenticated yet. DRM is infuriating and I'm done with this shit. Fuck EA, fuck Ubisoft, fuck Activision, fuck Securom and Starforce and everything else that has anything to do with putting STUPID BULLSHIT arbitrary limits on how someone WHO ACTUALLY PAID FOR THE FUCKING GAME can actually play it. Piracy looks better every time some garbage like this happens.
 
Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Frankie said:
Well, EA is using that same method for Mass Effect 2 and guess what? SHOCKINGLY enough their servers crashed and now no one can God damn play Mass Effect 2 who hasn't authenticated yet. DRM is infuriating and I'm done with this shit. Fuck EA, fuck Ubisoft, fuck Activision, fuck Securom and Starforce and everything else that has anything to do with putting STUPID BULLSHIT arbitrary limits on how someone WHO ACTUALLY PAID FOR THE FUCKING GAME can actually play it. Piracy looks better every time some garbage like this happens.
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AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Do developers just not get it? If you REQUIRE people to log into your servers to play a game, those servers will ALWAYS go down the first day because no server farm known to man has yet to be able to handle the load of launch day. You ever need to start doubling your server estimates or just do away with it.
 
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Chibibar

AshburnerX said:
Do developers just not get it? If you REQUIRE people to log into your servers to play a game, those servers will ALWAYS go down the first day because no server farm known to man has yet to be able to handle the load of launch day. You ever need to start doubling your server estimates or just do away with it.
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I don't think it is possible. Even WOW (I would guess one of the largest gaming server farm) even crash on launch day :)

If the "Best" crash, there is no way that other business can even come close to make their server not crash on launch day.
 
@Li3n

@Li3n

Chibibar;333728][QUOTE=Bowielee said:
Why can't these places follow steam's example. Tie it to an account and allow an offline mode. I still think that Valve has the best DRM out there. Hell, I prefer buying on steam now as opposed to disk copies of games. It's good when basically a DRM service becomes your preferred method of purchasing games.
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I like Steam too. It is painless and I don't mind the DRM in it since I can redownload as much as I want when I'm online. I do love the offline feature.[/QUOTE]


Last time my power went out (thanks for announcing you're gonna do that power company, jackasses) i couldn't play any Steam games when it went back up because the switches where affected too and Steam still needs you to be online to activate the offline thing...
 
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