Fuck Australia

[gargoyle_eva]

All you need to know about Aussie Spiders

Yes deaths from spiders are rare. Only because most of us are smart enough to either check out what kinda spider it is or go to hospital for treatment straight away. Tourists may not be so lucky. Huntsmans dont scare me that much. They are big enough to see. Redbacks are the scariest fucking things around. Maybe thats just because when I was a kid we lived in a fairly new devolpment that was infested with spiders. I remember I woke up one morning and had 2 of the freaks making a web above my head.

Yeah they are painful but as long as you get treatment in a timely fashion the worst case is a few days bed rest.

Oh and koalas may look all cute and cuddley but when holding them for photos they scratch you to get away and start shitting while you are holding them. They also growl like mean motherfuckers. And they are so fucking heavy. Stupid stinking things. Kangaroos are violent in the wild too. Piss one off and it can knock you out with a kick or scratch the shit out of you. Emu's are also scary things. They are really fast and if one charges you GTFO of there. They have real sharp claws and arn;t afraid to use them.

In short yeah we have a bunch of scary animals and shit but unless you are going out to the bush to see them with your own eyes then most likely you will be safe. Just go to a zoo, usually they have an australian animal petting area.

 

[LittleSin]

Fuck...fuck.....is it out of line for me to ask for a spoiler tag and a warning on that?!

Please? As a birthday present to me?

 

[Shadazz]

I've been bitten by redbacks, and gotten treatment quickly. But don't ever let anyone tell you it doesn't hurt. It's like your blood is boiling so hot that your muscle is dissolving under your skin. It's fucking terrible.

 

[checkeredhat]

Anyway, I'm glad I live in Southern Canada where my biggest concerns are coyotes, owls, and occassionall lynx, wolves and brown bears. I don't have to worry about all your crazy venomous stuff.

Statistically the deadliest animal in Canada is the moose. Even discounting traffic collisions, more people are killed by moose than any other animal. The method of death alone should make you want to live with the spiders in Australia.[/QUOTE]

Yes but I have never seen one anywhere near here, or met anyone who has. My first moose sighting was in Saskatchewan, actually. All I was mentioning was what was actually around here. Although looking it up, moose's habitats DO extend down to Southern Ontario, I've just never known anyone who saw one here.

 

[Kitty Sinatra]

I've never woken up with a moose in my bed.

Only because you keep turning me down

 

[sixpackshaker]

That guy with the exploded thumb taught at a small college I went to. It is very real. He was being treated in the hospital that I was born in.

 

[Dave]

Fuck...fuck.....is it out of line for me to ask for a spoiler tag and a warning on that?!

Please? As a birthday present to me?

On which one?

 

[sixpackshaker]

I am guessing the exploded thumb on the previous page.

 

[LittleSin]

That would be the one.

 

[Dave]

Spoiler'd.

 

[chakz]

Soooo nobody else went "OOOOOOOOOH thats what the bow in team fortress 2 is named after".

 

[fade]

In Texas we have these beauties.

Pretty small and harmless, till you look at what their bite does.

Warning: Fairly graphic ouchy picture.

Spoiler

That picture is ten days after the bite while being treated for the bite the entire time

Yep. Have those in SC, too. I was bitten by one in college housing, on my chin. I have a nice scar that won't grow facial hair to thank a brown recluse for. Most bites don't cause necrosis, though. That's pretty rare, even for a rare spider bite, since they prefer not to bite at all.

 

[Chazwozel]

I turn into such a little girl when a spider appears: squealing, leaping up and running for the other side of the room, wanting to watch Glee and listen to Lady Gaga, the whole thing.

Why do you associate being terrified and weak-willed with being a girl? Or watching comedic musical TV shows and liking dance/pop music, for that matter?[/QUOTE]

/facepalm. Do you really want me to explain it, or are you being intentionally thick?

 

[Charlie Don't Surf]

I turn into such a little girl when a spider appears: squealing, leaping up and running for the other side of the room, wanting to watch Glee and listen to Lady Gaga, the whole thing.

Why do you associate being terrified and weak-willed with being a girl? Or watching comedic musical TV shows and liking dance/pop music, for that matter?[/QUOTE]

/facepalm. Do you really want me to explain it, or are you being intentionally thick?[/QUOTE]

Well it's either thinking every woman is like that based on the few you've known personally, or just straight up misogyny. There are plenty of men scared by spiders. There are also plenty of men that love Gaga and Glee, and no reason to make them feel somehow inferior or just wrong because they do.

 

[Dave]

I turn into such a little girl when a spider appears: squealing, leaping up and running for the other side of the room, wanting to watch Glee and listen to Lady Gaga, the whole thing.

Why do you associate being terrified and weak-willed with being a girl? Or watching comedic musical TV shows and liking dance/pop music, for that matter?[/QUOTE]

/facepalm. Do you really want me to explain it, or are you being intentionally thick?[/QUOTE]

Well it's either thinking every woman is like that based on the few you've known personally, or just straight up misogyny. There are plenty of men scared by spiders. There are also plenty of men that love Gaga and Glee, and no reason to make them feel somehow inferior or just wrong because they do.[/QUOTE]

I was going to say because it was funny. And little girls do scream and run. Charlie, I love ya, but you gotta realize that sometimes jokes are just jokes.

 

[Chazwozel]

I turn into such a little girl when a spider appears: squealing, leaping up and running for the other side of the room, wanting to watch Glee and listen to Lady Gaga, the whole thing.

Why do you associate being terrified and weak-willed with being a girl? Or watching comedic musical TV shows and liking dance/pop music, for that matter?[/QUOTE]

/facepalm. Do you really want me to explain it, or are you being intentionally thick?[/QUOTE]

Well it's either thinking every woman is like that based on the few you've known personally, or just straight up misogyny. There are plenty of men scared by spiders. There are also plenty of men that love Gaga and Glee, and no reason to make them feel somehow inferior or just wrong because they do.[/QUOTE]

No wonder you can't find a girlfriend...

 

[makare]

It's easy to laugh at stupid generalities regardless of what those generalities actually imply.

 

[GasBandit]

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[Charlie Don't Surf]

I turn into such a little girl when a spider appears: squealing, leaping up and running for the other side of the room, wanting to watch Glee and listen to Lady Gaga, the whole thing.

Why do you associate being terrified and weak-willed with being a girl? Or watching comedic musical TV shows and liking dance/pop music, for that matter?[/QUOTE]

/facepalm. Do you really want me to explain it, or are you being intentionally thick?[/QUOTE]

Well it's either thinking every woman is like that based on the few you've known personally, or just straight up misogyny. There are plenty of men scared by spiders. There are also plenty of men that love Gaga and Glee, and no reason to make them feel somehow inferior or just wrong because they do.[/QUOTE]

No wonder you can't find a girlfriend... [/QUOTE]

Yup, it's definitely because I think women are equal to men and because I treat them like actual people.

 

[Dave]

I turn into such a little girl when a spider appears: squealing, leaping up and running for the other side of the room, wanting to watch Glee and listen to Lady Gaga, the whole thing.

Why do you associate being terrified and weak-willed with being a girl? Or watching comedic musical TV shows and liking dance/pop music, for that matter?[/QUOTE]

/facepalm. Do you really want me to explain it, or are you being intentionally thick?[/QUOTE]

Well it's either thinking every woman is like that based on the few you've known personally, or just straight up misogyny. There are plenty of men scared by spiders. There are also plenty of men that love Gaga and Glee, and no reason to make them feel somehow inferior or just wrong because they do.[/QUOTE]

No wonder you can't find a girlfriend... [/QUOTE]

Yup, it's definitely because I think women are equal to men and because I treat them like actual people.[/QUOTE]

So do I and so does Chaz. But we can still joke without getting our feathers all ruffled up.

 

[Chazwozel]

I turn into such a little girl when a spider appears: squealing, leaping up and running for the other side of the room, wanting to watch Glee and listen to Lady Gaga, the whole thing.

Why do you associate being terrified and weak-willed with being a girl? Or watching comedic musical TV shows and liking dance/pop music, for that matter?[/QUOTE]

/facepalm. Do you really want me to explain it, or are you being intentionally thick?[/QUOTE]

Well it's either thinking every woman is like that based on the few you've known personally, or just straight up misogyny. There are plenty of men scared by spiders. There are also plenty of men that love Gaga and Glee, and no reason to make them feel somehow inferior or just wrong because they do.[/QUOTE]

No wonder you can't find a girlfriend... [/QUOTE]

Yup, it's definitely because I think women are equal to men and because I treat them like actual people.[/QUOTE]

So do I and so does Chaz. But we can still joke without getting our feathers all ruffled up.[/QUOTE]


I beat my wife every time I come home and there isn't a pie on the windowsill waiting for me.

 

[Dave]

Okay, just so we don't have the huge post quote tree...

Remember the football thread where the question was asked who was rooting for Brett Favre? My response was, "My wife....the bitch."

Do I think she's a bitch? [STRIKE]Sometimes. Not really.[/STRIKE] No. But the joke was funny. And SHE thought it was funny, too.

Jokes is jokes is jokes, man. Not everyone needs someone to speak on their behalf.

 

[b.glad]

I turn into such a little girl when a spider appears: squealing, leaping up and running for the other side of the room, wanting to watch Glee and listen to Lady Gaga, the whole thing.

Why do you associate being terrified and weak-willed with being a girl? Or watching comedic musical TV shows and liking dance/pop music, for that matter?[/QUOTE]

/facepalm. Do you really want me to explain it, or are you being intentionally thick?[/QUOTE]

Well it's either thinking every woman is like that based on the few you've known personally, or just straight up misogyny. There are plenty of men scared by spiders. There are also plenty of men that love Gaga and Glee, and no reason to make them feel somehow inferior or just wrong because they do.[/QUOTE]

No wonder you can't find a girlfriend... [/QUOTE]

Yup, it's definitely because I think women are equal to men and because I treat them like actual people.[/QUOTE]

So do I and so does Chaz. But we can still joke without getting our feathers all ruffled up.[/QUOTE]

You obviously don't think men and women are equal in some way if you think it's funny to associate weakness with being a girl or a woman. I mean, maybe you're not full on "women shouldn't be able to vote or have jobs," but expressing a sentiment like that still shows that you think men and women are unequal in some way. I'm not saying this to say "shame on you, you're a horrible person" but merely to express that they way stereotypes are used, even when joking, betray peoples' true feelings on matters like this. This also doesn't mean that I know everything about you, but there are certain things I feel I can ascertain from your, Chaz's, and Qonas's behaviors.

There are plenty of men who are afraid of spiders and women who aren't, but that didn't stop Qonas from equating being afraid of spiders with being a woman. There are also plenty of men who enjoy Glee and Lady Gaga and plenty of women who don't, but that didn't stop Qonas from equating enjoying those things with being a woman. It's little "jokes" and stereotypes like that remaining acceptable that keep men and women from being truly equal on all levels.

 

[Bubble181]

I turn into such a little girl when a spider appears: squealing, leaping up and running for the other side of the room, wanting to watch Glee and listen to Lady Gaga, the whole thing.

Why do you associate being terrified and weak-willed with being a girl? Or watching comedic musical TV shows and liking dance/pop music, for that matter?[/QUOTE]

/facepalm. Do you really want me to explain it, or are you being intentionally thick?[/QUOTE]

Well it's either thinking every woman is like that based on the few you've known personally, or just straight up misogyny. There are plenty of men scared by spiders. There are also plenty of men that love Gaga and Glee, and no reason to make them feel somehow inferior or just wrong because they do.[/QUOTE]

No wonder you can't find a girlfriend... [/QUOTE]

Yup, it's definitely because I think women are equal to men and because I treat them like actual people.[/QUOTE]

So do I and so does Chaz. But we can still joke without getting our feathers all ruffled up.[/QUOTE]


I beat my wife every time I come home and there isn't a pie on the windowsill waiting for me.[/QUOTE]

Of course, but I bet you do the same to your boy if the fireplace isn't properly made and the hall cleaned, don't you? :-P

 

[makare]

It wasn't chaz who said that it was Qonas.

Chaz isn't misogynistic he is just an insensitive jerk.. which is something he is very proud of. So pointing out just makes him happy. Well done.

 

[b.glad]

It wasn't chaz who said that it was Qonas.

Chaz isn't misogynistic he is just an insensitive jerk.. which is something he is very proud of. So pointing out just makes him happy. Well done.

My apologies for the mistaken quotation. I will go fix it in my post.

 

[Charlie Don't Surf]

Okay, just so we don't have the huge post quote tree...

Remember the football thread where the question was asked who was rooting for Brett Favre? My response was, "My wife....the bitch."

Do I think she's a bitch? [STRIKE]Sometimes. Not really.[/STRIKE] No. But the joke was funny. And SHE thought it was funny, too.

Jokes is jokes is jokes, man. Not everyone needs someone to speak on their behalf.

Well, that's mildly mean, but the base of that joke isn't that she's inferior or anything. It's actually mildly funny, whereas the Qonas one is literally just saying "girls are callow and like glee and lady gaga".

 

[Chazwozel]

You obviously don't think men and women are equal in some way if you think it's funny to associate weakness with being a girl or a woman. I mean, maybe you're not full on "women shouldn't be able to vote or have jobs," but expressing a sentiment like that still shows that you think men and women are unequal in some way. I'm not saying this to say "shame on you, you're a horrible person" but merely to express that they way stereotypes are used, even when joking, betray peoples' true feelings on matters like this. This also doesn't mean that I know everything about you, but there are certain things I feel I can ascertain from your, Chaz's, and Qonas's behaviors.

There are plenty of men who are afraid of spiders and women who aren't, but that didn't stop Qonas from equating being afraid of spiders with being a woman. There are also plenty of men who enjoy Glee and Lady Gaga and plenty of women who don't, but that didn't stop Qonas from equating enjoying those things with being a woman. It's little "jokes" and stereotypes like that remaining acceptable that keep men and women from being truly equal on all levels.

And here...we...go...

If you think men and women are absolutely equal, they're not, nor will they ever be. Glee is demographically targeted to a female audience. As is stuff like Twilight etc... Am I saying that men can't enjoy it too? No. The idea that men and women can be on equal footing in regards to specific gender rolls is pretty silly. It fights our very instinct. Women will always have babies and men will always compete with each other for women. Don't blame me, blame the way nature works.

 

[Bubble181]

the way stereotypes are used, even when joking, betray peoples' true feelings on matters like this.

No, no they don't. They really don't. I don't think blondes are stupider than any other hair colour, but I'm still perfectly capable of saying someone is having a blonde moment. Stereotypes come into being because of such things, yes, and they are often a visible part of prejudice (lazy Mexican, stealing Moroccan, Maffia Itallian, etc). But even when the prejudice is long gone, some aspects of stereotypes can persevere, without any particular ill will towards the inherent group intended. Stereotypes help order things, and can make things easier for people. They're also easy for jokes and the like.

To take another tack, according to modern psychological research, women ARE (mildly) more likely to have irrational phobias or fears, and it's genetically determined. Women are also (slightly) better at estimating risks with many unknowns - it's just one more of the many small differences between men and women. We're not exactly the same, but that doesn't mean we're not equals.

 

[Chazwozel]

Okay, just so we don't have the huge post quote tree...

Remember the football thread where the question was asked who was rooting for Brett Favre? My response was, "My wife....the bitch."

Do I think she's a bitch? [STRIKE]Sometimes. Not really.[/STRIKE] No. But the joke was funny. And SHE thought it was funny, too.

Jokes is jokes is jokes, man. Not everyone needs someone to speak on their behalf.

Well, that's mildly mean, but the base of that joke isn't that she's inferior or anything. It's actually mildly funny, whereas the Qonas one is literally just saying "girls are callow and like glee and lady gaga".[/QUOTE]


As the father of a 2 1/2 year old girl and the guardian of a 5 year old boy since he was 2. I can tell you girls don't like bugs where boys try to eat them. I don't hate women, nor do I believe that they shouldn't be paid an equal wage to men and the ilk, but you can't deny the physical and physiological differences between the sexes. In the end those differences will always ensure a different approach of one gender towards the other.

 

[fade]

Who says men and women are equal? They should have equal rights to one another, but that doesn't mean they're the same.

I think it's quite offensive to both men and women to assume we're some homogenous mass.

 

[Chazwozel]

Who says men and women are equal? They should have equal rights to one another, but that doesn't mean they're the same.

I think it's quite offensive to both men and women to assume we're some homogenous mass.

Thank you. To put it another way. I think that my wife and my male friends should socially be on equal terms. But if I were to act towards my wife on teh same equal terms that I do with my male friends, we'd be heading for a divorce real quick. For instance, in a situation where say a another man makes physical threats towards my wife, I would step in and defend her. In the same situation, I'd let my friend take care of business himself unless he was in trouble.

 

[Charlie Don't Surf]

They should have equal rights to one another,

Exactly. Bingo. Now, if there's this pervasive attitude that women are callow universally, I'm fairly certain it would be harder for women to get some sort of job where bravery or daring is a pre-requisite. Even if they're incredibly more brave and qualified than the next 5 fellows.

 

[Chazwozel]

They should have equal rights to one another,

Exactly. Bingo. Now, if there's this pervasive attitude that women are callow universally, I'm fairly certain it would be harder for women to get some sort of job where bravery or daring is a pre-requisite. Even if they're incredibly more brave and qualified than the next 5 fellows.[/QUOTE]

Uh, this is true, especially in physically demanding jobs. Not many women can make the cut for Special Ops training and compete with their male classmates. Not that some don't, mind you, but the ratio is definitely skewed towards the male side. Men are wired for competition and combat, women are wired for making and taking care of babies.

 

[b.glad]

the way stereotypes are used, even when joking, betray peoples' true feelings on matters like this.

No, no they don't. They really don't.[/QUOTE]

I actually think that resorting to a stereotype one knows to be false instead of questioning it says a lot about a person.