WE ARE THE X-watch-MEN!!!
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Seeing this coming along the heels of the highly original Spider-Man firing, it's good to see that the direction of Marvel is really fresh and new for the new generation. I mean, a DEATH in the X-Men family?! WOW!
Oh, man! I can't wait for this! It's the event that will CHANGE EVERYTHING! And SOMEONE will die! And NO ONE will EVER be the same again!
You know, until the NEXT event.
You know, until the NEXT event.
Dave
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Because they are directly competing companies.
ElJuski
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Because they are directly competing companies.[/QUOTE]
S...s...so? Watchmen is a comic cornerstone. I think the work itself goes beyond "companies" and is part of the cultural spectrum. Should no "rival company" ever make note of anything any other rival company has done, ever? Including pop cultural cornerstones? I think that's a whack argument.
Because they're doing it at a time when Watchmen just had a film and they are talks of diluting it with spin-offs/sequels at DC. Timing is everything.
Can you really not tell the difference between a rip-off and a homage?
I'm sure Greg Land was really just paying homage to porn too right?
Eh, maybe this is an homage, maybe it's a rip off, maybe it's an unfortunate coincidence. I wasn't aware that having any amount of blood on a symbol was ripping off watchmen.
As fas as the idea that claiming an homage as an excuse for ripping someone else off goes, I feel that it's always been kind of bullshit. I mean, paying homage to something is a valid thing to do in a piece of work, but to me it should always be clear and deliberate. Biatrix Kiddo in Kill Bill wearing a yellow jumpsuit comes to mind. In that scene it was clearly an homage to Bruce Lee, and I think anyone who recognized the suit saw it for what it was. If a super hero where to rip open a shirt and reveal his/her costume underneath, that would be a clear homage to Superman. Going much beyond that though, and you risk going into rip off country with what you're doing.
As fas as the idea that claiming an homage as an excuse for ripping someone else off goes, I feel that it's always been kind of bullshit. I mean, paying homage to something is a valid thing to do in a piece of work, but to me it should always be clear and deliberate. Biatrix Kiddo in Kill Bill wearing a yellow jumpsuit comes to mind. In that scene it was clearly an homage to Bruce Lee, and I think anyone who recognized the suit saw it for what it was. If a super hero where to rip open a shirt and reveal his/her costume underneath, that would be a clear homage to Superman. Going much beyond that though, and you risk going into rip off country with what you're doing.
ElJuski
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Unless I'm obviously missing some comic insider information...apparently yeah. But also, comic book nerds are known to go off the handle on bullshit like this all the time anyway. Just seems like they're doing a thing with a really culturally known and resonating thing.
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I think you mean to say that there's nothing they can sue over.
I don't remember Ult Wolvie to be able to will his bone claws into metal... some people are hoping he'll turn out to be ult Mimic... optimism is so naive.
Iceman is killed in his apartment. Wolverine investigates with the help of Angel, Jubilee, and Nate Grey (X-Man). At the end, they find out that it was Prof. X and that it was to help cover up a plan to get humanity and mutants to live in peace by bringing back Apocalypse for the X-Men to publically defeat.
At least they're not spending a year or two going, "WHO'S SON IS HE?!!!"
I was honestly expecting them to go there.
At least they're not spending a year or two going, "WHO'S SON IS HE?!!!"
I was honestly expecting them to go there.[/QUOTE]
That's because they're obviously gonna reveal he's actually not Logan's, but something stupid... or he's a clone.
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i'm with juski on this one, a lot of people trying to make this into something it isn't.
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Definitely don't see the big deal in this, looks like a homage to me.
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Like i said before, it's the timing that makes it a crappy move...
Really, when was the last time you saw the X on a yellow background?!
Like i said before, it's the timing that makes it a crappy move...
And they haven't used those suits since forever... while Wolverine's colours 1st showed up in Hulk.
Really, when was the last time you saw the X on a yellow background?!
Once i simply bring up Watchmen, not the actual smiley face or anything...sure, they recognize it once you tell them what to recognize...
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figmentPez
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New Mutants #1 (Third series of that title) May2009.
As far as i know they're still in those costumes.
New Mutants #9 went on sale Jan 6, 2010
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Huh, here's a thought. Maybe the New Mutants are stepping up to be the new X-men?
It's obviously a homage when EVERYONE knows watchmen... they can't so obviously rip-off something EVERYONE knows, they're not that stupid as to try to pass it off as their own. It's a teaser, for Spidey's sake, it's obviously a homage. When Peter Parker ran through an alley in, at least, the first 2 Spidey movies and ripped his shirt open to reveal the Spider emblem.. they weren't ripping off Superman, it was a homaaaaageeee. Just like this is.
Marvel..no, no, scratch that.. DISNEY... has lawyers, people. They'd know when they were entering ripping off territory.
Marvel..no, no, scratch that.. DISNEY... has lawyers, people. They'd know when they were entering ripping off territory.
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