RapeLay "game"

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Dave

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Figured this would go better either here or in the politics section.

Japan has released a game where the object is to rape young girls. I'm not kidding. What kind of sick fuck would ever want to "play" this?

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/03/30/japan.video.game.rape/index.html?hpt=C2

Tokyo, Japan (CNN) -- The game begins with a teenage girl on a subway platform. She notices you are looking at her and asks, \"Can I help you with something?\"


That is when you, the player, can choose your method of assault.


With the click of your mouse, you can grope her and lift her skirt. Then you can follow her aboard the train, assaulting her sister and her mother.


As you continue to play, \"friends\" join in and in a series of graphic, interactive scenes, you can corner the women, rape them again and again.



The game allows you to even impregnate a girl and urge her to have an abortion. The reason behind your assault, explains the game, is that the teenage girl has accused you of molesting her on the train. The motive is revenge.


It is little wonder that the game, titled RapeLay, sparked international outrage from women's groups. Taina Bien-Aime helped yank the game off store shelves worldwide.


\"This was a game that had absolutely no place on the market,\" said Taina Bien-Aime of women's rights organization Equality Now which has campaigned for the game to be taken off the shelves.
But the controversy that led to stopping sales of the game instead took it viral.


That was how Lucy Kibble and Jim Gardner in Britain heard about it.


\"I think the idea that you can do it by wholesale banning is just never going to work anyway because we downloaded it for free off the Internet,\" Gardner said.


In the case of RapeLay, he was right. It is still readily available on dozens of Web sites, sometimes for free.


What happened to RapeLay is an example, said Bien-Aime, of why Japan needs to police game makers.
\"It's obviously very difficult to curtail activity on the Internet. But the governments do have a role in trying to regulate this sort of extreme pornography of children, both in their countries, and through the Internet ,\" she said, adding that they were calling for the Japanese government \"to ban all games that promote and simulate sexual violence, sexual torture, stalking and rape against women and girls. And there are plenty of games like that. \"


Those games are known as \"hentai games.\" Almost all feature girlish-looking characters. Some of the games are violent -- depicting rape, torture and bondage in detail.


Step into a game shop in Akihabara, Japan's electronics district, and hentai games are readily available. In minutes, we found a game similar to RapeLay. The object here is also revenge: Find and rape the woman who fired the player from his imaginary job. Along the way, the player can rape a number of other girls and women.


Hentai games are not new to Japan. This country has long produced products the rest of the world would call pornographic. But before the arrival of the Internet, such items stayed in Japan. Now, once a game goes on sale in Tokyo, it is digitized and shared everywhere.


Japan does have censorship laws for sexual content. In games and videos, genitalia are obscured, even if it is animated. But Japan's laws do not restrict the themes and ideas of the games.
A national law that would make possession of real and virtual images of child porn illegal is under discussion, but no serious legislation has moved forward in Japan's parliament.


CNN contacted the Gender Equality Promotion Division in the Gender Equality Bureau of Japan's Cabinet Office, which is charged with handling the hentai gaming issue.


Despite repeated calls over a period of weeks, no representative from the government office would comment to CNN on camera. The office refused to make a statement on paper. A spokeswoman would only say over the telephone that the Japanese government was aware that the games were a problem and it was checking to see if self-policing by the gaming industry was enough.


A member of the Institute of Contents Culture, who did not want to give CNN his name, said restricting game themes limits freedom of expression.


\"In my opinion, RapeLay's storyline went too far. However, if a game creator wants to express something and create content out of it, a government or public entity shouldn't have the power to restrain it.\"


Lucy Kibble and Jim Gardner, the gamers in Britain, said trying to control games on the Internet was futile and that content control was up to parents.


\"The idea of banning it, or telling people what they can and can't do just because on the off chance some kid might get involved with it is just ridiculous,\" said Gardner.
By the way, any "you gonna get raped" pics are going to be deleted in this thread.
 
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makare

Ive seen quite a few of those games. My desensitization to that kind of thing is coming along quite nicely I guess.

Sigh.
 
This controversy has been pretty mainstream for at least 6 months now. Kotaku's been following it pretty heavily. Here's some links for you to get more acquainted with it.

Erotic Game Comments On Erotic Game Controversy

United Nations Calls For Explicit Japanese Game Ban

Company Renames Rape Game Category

Rape Games Officially Banned In Japan

Ero Game Website Blocks Non-Japan Viewers To "Defend Culture"

Erotic Game Developer Explains Foreign Access Web Blocking

As much as it pains me to say, the Japanese do have a point: The US is pulling a power play on Japan to legislate THEIR morality. As close of allies as we are, Japan gets to decide what happens in it's borders, not the US, and we just have to accept that they view things differently their... especially since we're the ones who fucked them up to being with.
 
Yeah I thought it had been out for awhile 'cause I remember reading about a rape game a few months ago. Maybe there was another similar game?
 
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Disconnected

There's plenty in the BDSM world that are into this type of thing. Not in video game form.
 
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makare

It's not like the Japanese have the market cornered on rape fantasies.
 
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Chazwozel

especially since we're the ones who fucked them up to being with.
How did the war fuck up a culture that has hated women forever? Ask 80+ year old women in Korea and Shanghai about Japanese rape fantasies.

Or look at the centuries old fantasies of tentacle rape.[/QUOTE]


I'm so fucking sick about hearing about how wrong it was for the US to use nuclear weapons on Japan, and how everything wrong with Japan is a direct result of it. Damn sandal-wearing, goldfish tenders!
 
This game was reviewed on something awful like 2 years ago. Way to keep up, CNN.

That being said, yes, it's a sick game. But apparently games like this are a full genre in their porn industry. Bottom line is, they aren't selling it here, so what the hell are we trying to control?
 
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makare

It's not like the Japanese have the market cornered on rape fantasies.
They are more out in the open about it.[/QUOTE]

At least when it happens in the open people know about it but when it is hidden people can become victims. I don't know if that makes sense. I don't actually care about rape fantasies as long as people are willing participants but in an unregulated porn industry operating behind closed doors, what is presented as fantasy might have been the real thing. If it is going to exist I want to know about it and regulate or control it the best we can. Give potential victims a legal recourse.
 
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Chazwozel

It's not like the Japanese have the market cornered on rape fantasies.
They are more out in the open about it.[/QUOTE]

At least when it happens in the open people know about it but when it is hidden people can become victims. I don't know if that makes sense. I don't actually care about rape fantasies as long as people are willing participants but in an unregulated porn industry operating behind closed doors, what is presented as fantasy might have been the real thing. If it is going to exist I want to know about it and regulate or control it the best we can. Give potential victims a legal recourse.[/QUOTE]

This makes no sense.

Also:
 
Wow noone? Really?

MOON PEOPLE!

Anyway, as for the topic at hand: Getting Japan to ban animated child porn isn't ever going to happen. Not sure where I read it, but I remember an article saying that older asian men enjoyed the fact that most asian women whimper and cry during sex because it reminds them of a child.
 
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Chazwozel

We can't prevent crimes we don't know about.

Is that better?

But we do know that rape is a prevalent crime in all countries...

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Wow noone? Really?

MOON PEOPLE!

Anyway, as for the topic at hand: Getting Japan to ban animated child porn isn't ever going to happen. Not sure where I read it, but I remember an article saying that older asian men enjoyed the fact that most asian women whimper and cry during sex because it reminds them of a child.

Wow, that's like the complete antithesis to what gives me a boner.
 
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makare

We can't prevent crimes we don't know about.

Is that better?

But we do know that rape is a prevalent crime in all countries...[/QUOTE]

We are talking about Japans openness about rape porn compared to the US's secrecy about it. If it is open they can do something about it. If it is secret you can't.
 
Okay, first of all, makare, according to the SA review, it's all computer generated. There are no actual people involved. Does it being toons make it better? Not really, but neither are there actual victims in this case.

Secondly, the US has no right to try and regulate another country's porn industry. It's absurd.

Yes, the whimpering and crying and "child" aspects are grotesque, and I agree with Chaz (dun dun dun!) that it is the opposite of sexy. But we aren't them, and they aren't trying to market it to us. You kind of have to go out of your way to try and acquire it in the first place.
 
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Chazwozel

We can't prevent crimes we don't know about.

Is that better?

But we do know that rape is a prevalent crime in all countries...[/QUOTE]


We are talking about Japans openness about rape porn compared to the US's secrecy about it. If it is open they can do something about it. If it is secret you can't.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure you can get rape fantasy/ S&M shit at your local porn shop in the U.S. no fuss, no muss.

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Okay, first of all, makare, according to the SA review, it's all computer generated. There are no actual people involved. Does it being toons make it better? Not really, but neither are their actual victims in this case.

Secondly, the US has no right to try and regulate another country's porn industry. It's absurd.
This is true. But at the same time it's like saying it's ok that Islamic women are beaten and generally treated like shit in Saudi Arabia just because it's 'the culture'.
 
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makare

Okay, first of all, makare, according to the SA review, it's all computer generated. There are no actual people involved. Does it being toons make it better? Not really, but neither are their actual victims in this case.

Secondly, the US has no right to try and regulate another country's porn industry. It's absurd.
I haven't made any of those arguments.

And my response was to sixpackshaker saying that Japan being more open about it was somehow a bad thing. Where I think it is better that it is out in the open.
 
Remind me again, Child porn is illegal because there is a victim, the child, correct? Therefore, what exactly is illegal about animated child porn?
 
I'm not saying it's okay, I'm saying we don't have the right to force them to change. All we can do is say it's not acceptable here, which is already the case.
 
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makare

Remind me again, Child porn is illegal because there is a victim, the child, correct? Therefore, what exactly is illegal about animated child porn?
:tape: Oh please god no, not that topic.


I'm not saying it's okay, I'm saying we don't have the right to force them to change. All we can do is say it's not acceptable here, which is already the case.
If you are still talking to me, I didn't say we should. When I speak of regulation I mean by their own government not by the US.
 

ElJuski

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That cutting literary reference aside, I think the idea is really gross. But that's their sick, bag. Can't make Japan *NOT* want rape fantasies. Just gotta try and facilitate less wrong ways to engage in their kinks. Let's be honest here: you can't teach an old dog-fucker new tricks. But you can let him put out his perversions in a shitty photoshop so he won't actually fuck a dog.
 
How do you figure that, Chaz? What gives us the right to interfere with something that doesn't involve us at all? There's interfering when it's something that is a threat to our nation or our allies - that's necessary. But we don't have the right to tell them what should excite them any more than they have the right to tell us how we should live.

Mak - their government seems to be okay with it, so that's settled then.
 
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makare

How do you figure that, Chaz? What gives us the right to interfere with something that doesn't involve us at all? There's interfering when it's something that is a threat to our nation or our allies - that's necessary. But we don't have the right to tell them what should excite them any more than they have the right to tell us how we should live.

Mak - their government seems to be okay with it, so that's settled then.
I don't think our government has a right to say anything to them. But I sure as hell do. I can say what I think they should do all I want because that is my right as a person. Particularly one living in the US.
 
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Chazwozel

How do you figure that, Chaz? What gives us the right to interfere with something that doesn't involve us at all? There's interfering when it's something that is a threat to our nation or our allies - that's necessary. But we don't have the right to tell them what should excite them any more than they have the right to tell us how we should live.

Mak - their government seems to be okay with it, so that's settled then.
So it's cool that women in Saudi Arabia are beaten by their husbands and treated as second class citizens because it's part of their culture? It's cool that Indian caste systems still exist in many regions and basic human rights are denied certain people because it's their culture? Awesome!
 
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