So in fact, he wasn't a brewer, he was a maltster.After Adams had lost his money, his father made him a partner in the family's malthouse, which was next to the family home on Purchase Street. Several generations of Adamses were maltsters, who produced the malt necessary for brewing beer.[25] Years later, a poet would poke fun at Adams by calling him "Sam the maltster".[26] Adams has often been described as a brewer, but the extant evidence suggests that Adams worked as a maltster and not a brewer.[27]
Sam Adams was an abolitionist. John Adams did not own slaves. I know that Jefferson owned slaves (which is unsettling with what he wrote). It's a big misconception that the majority of the founding fathers supported slavery.Always gotta love the use of founding fathers to push their agenda, it really is too bad that they didn't show the slaves bringing them food and water, or working the field. Also how is the health care bill part of the without representation, it was voted on by their elected officials.
Sam Adams was an abolitionist. John Adams did not own slaves. I know that Jefferson owned slaves (which is unsettling with what he wrote). It's a big misconception that the majority of the founding fathers supported slavery.[/QUOTE]Always gotta love the use of founding fathers to push their agenda, it really is too bad that they didn't show the slaves bringing them food and water, or working the field. Also how is the health care bill part of the without representation, it was voted on by their elected officials.
Which is hilarious to me, because I'm not so sure that the founding fathers would want to be deified like that. The Constitution was made with the fundamental idea that they did not know everything and that things would change.If the founding fathers were still alive the world would be a virtual utopia, our species would be a population of pure energy, and dogs and cats would be living together (according to the Tea Party and Libertarians anyway).
This is the wisest post in this thread.Yes, there is such a thing as Over the Top http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093692/
Jesus gets a bum rap from the same people.You know, once, very long time ago I thought very highly of the Founding Fathers. I know, I'm not an American, but the quite modern approach they took to government at the end of the era of absolutism just struck a cord in me. Nowadays, it seems that the only people who speak of these gentlemen are people like Rick Barber and this guy. In the case of the latter, he's definitely over the top. He actually claims he is Thomas Paine, and that apparently makes his right-wing blabber true.
No offence, guys, but you have some pretty fucked-up people on your side of the Atlantic.
In my opinion, you should continue to hold the Founding Fathers in high esteem. I think they were political visionaries, and the government they set up was ahead of its time. Just because we have morons misunderstanding them, twisting their words, and squandering the potential, doesn't mean the FF weren't right on the money (about most things).You know, once, very long time ago I thought very highly of the Founding Fathers. I know, I'm not an American, but the quite modern approach they took to government at the end of the era of absolutism just struck a cord in me. Nowadays, it seems that the only people who speak of these gentlemen are people like Rick Barber and this guy. In the case of the latter, he's definitely over the top. He actually claims he is Thomas Paine, and that apparently makes his right-wing blabber true.
No offence, guys, but you have some pretty fucked-up people on your side of the Atlantic.
In my opinion, you should continue to hold the Founding Fathers in high esteem. I think they were political visionaries, and the government they set up was ahead of its time. Just because we have morons misunderstanding them, twisting their words, and squandering the potential, doesn't mean the FF weren't right on the money (about most things).[/QUOTE]You know, once, very long time ago I thought very highly of the Founding Fathers. I know, I'm not an American, but the quite modern approach they took to government at the end of the era of absolutism just struck a cord in me. Nowadays, it seems that the only people who speak of these gentlemen are people like Rick Barber and this guy. In the case of the latter, he's definitely over the top. He actually claims he is Thomas Paine, and that apparently makes his right-wing blabber true.
No offence, guys, but you have some pretty fucked-up people on your side of the Atlantic.
No way, Troll. The Founding Fathers totally wanted citizens to carry around assault rifles and RPGs!The big problem is that people have been doing this all throughout history. Every ruler or person in power claims that they have some sort of mandate from revered leaders of the past. If people wouldn't fall for it so readily, it wouldn't be such a problem. The beauty of the Constitution is that people can decide for themselves what's right and wrong and change it as needed. There shouldn't be a concern about what politicians from two centuries ago would have wanted.
No way, Troll. The Founding Fathers totally wanted citizens to carry around assault rifles and RPGs![/QUOTE]The big problem is that people have been doing this all throughout history. Every ruler or person in power claims that they have some sort of mandate from revered leaders of the past. If people wouldn't fall for it so readily, it wouldn't be such a problem. The beauty of the Constitution is that people can decide for themselves what's right and wrong and change it as needed. There shouldn't be a concern about what politicians from two centuries ago would have wanted.