GasBandit
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Oh, the risk, the potential was there. That it was not actualized, well...
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Obviously roving bands of self appointed citizens, equipped with freely donated bricks and rusty razors.So who would oversee this sterilization requirement? I thought you were against bigger government.
GasBandit
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Believe you me, within 2 generations this will shrink government to unprecedented levels.So who would oversee this sterilization requirement? I thought you were against bigger government.
AGREED.
Not unless a girl can pregnant from rejecting a guy. Or being checked out. In which case, there was a huge risk.
GasBandit
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That doesn't mean there was no risk. Both of you were one roofie away from risking paternity.
That's akin to telling me I'm at risk of going to prison for homicide because, y'know, it's only a-few-blows-with-a-sharpened-shovel-on-some-random-hobo's-neck away.
Sounds like my prom night!
North_Ranger
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You call it "The Shovel"?
Yikes.
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You do know that a good number of states in your country did have compulsory sterilization policies in place in the last century? You know, to control the population growth of all those degenerate rural, East European-origin or "imbecile" people so they won't pollute the glorious gene pool.
Granted, I would have laughed at your suggestion if I didn't know about those policies myself. But there has been - and likely are - people who would actually do something like this if they could.
And to think, if it wasn't for that jerk-off Hitler we would have still have had those and a smaller, purer*, gene pool.
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*read "inbred"
GasBandit
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You are.
The difference is my policy makes no distinction of race or national origin. And it'll be good for the environment too!
Weird, i just heard today some 13-14 year olds talking about sex while on a trolley/tram and that totally convinced me that 14 is way to early...
And denying free abortions while still presumably indicting on of the parties as a sex offender is "have your cake and eating it too" BS...
Well they didn't only use those distinctions either:
Illiteracy... it's genetic apparently.
GasBandit
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Hmm. You may be right. Simple sterilization of all teenagers may not be enough... we may need to move to manditory castration/hysterectomy.
U.S. Laws are full of such contradictions. 18 is not old enough to drink but is old enough to be drafted and sent to die in a foreign land. 17 isn't old enough to face capital punishment for premeditated murder because a 17 year old isn't adult enough to understand the decisions he is making, but 13 is mature enough to understand all the implications and make a decision about whether to abort a fetus without the need for parental involvement. A teen can see fictional murders on TV and in movies, and pretend to murder hundreds of people in video games, the actual act of which only a small fraction of people will actually perform in real life... but if any of those TV shows, movies or video games explicitly depict an act of consensual sexual intercourse (the actual act of which nearly EVERYONE will experience in their lifetime, and odds are the teen already has as well), the media in question is subject to sanction, restriction and regulation.
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Chibibar
Wow..... back in the days, the signs are so pretty and neat!Well they didn't only use those distinctions either:
Illiteracy... it's genetic apparently.
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Iaculus
Well, yes. They had eugenicists to stave off the rising wave of illiterates, didn't they?Wow..... back in the days, the signs are so pretty and neat!
Wait, how where you planning to sterilize them without those?! Seeing how you're against wasteful spending i assumed the low tech options would be your 1st choice.
Yeah, so no need to make even more...
To be fair, holding your liquor takes some effort, while everyone is born good at dying. Hell, some even skip the alive phase and die on the way.
GasBandit
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Indeed. Or sterilizing radioactive agents introduced through the Four Loko supply would also be a good start.
If someone can come up with a vasectomy pill that works just like an anti-biotic - take it for 10 days and you're a sterile male - they will make millions, force eugenics or not.
Many men would rather take a $50k set of pills for a few days than go through a few hundred or thousand dollar outpatient surgical procedure where sharp objects get entirely too close to one's jewels, especially if they can get it covered under public health insurance.
GasBandit
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Heh... sterilization pills covered by public health insurance. That just sounds like a culture trying to eliminate itself
Once some nutcase finds a way to trade the amoxicillin for the vesectopill for a few million doses before it's discovered and switched back.Heh... sterilization pills covered by public health insurance. That just sounds like a culture trying to eliminate itself
On the other hand, if we make it free and suggest drug dealers use it to cut their drugs with, will anyone really complain?
GasBandit
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I think they made it into a movie. Children of men?
GasBandit
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It wasn't exactly the defining epic of its time, but it did deal with the subject matter of what happens to society when humans can no longer produce offspring.
Interesting plot, but it sounds like the reason for the infertility is not given. It appears to be a relatively unexplored area in film, though I imagine books have incorporated it into their plot.
Can you imagine a future where some large terrorist group successfully doses large swaths of the American population through the water system (ie, al qaida causes infertility and reduced fertility in 80% of all the males of the top 10 largest cities)?
Although, honestly, widespread female infertility or miscarriage would be far more devastating than male infertility.
On the other hand, we are well off enough as a nation that adoption and surrogacy would fill in much of the gap left behind by widespread infertility. It would take a continent wide scale of infertility to really cause a problem.
See it. Alfonso Cuaron directed it. It's fantastic sci-fi.
But would producing and dispersing those be cheaper then straight up chopping off of a scrotum?!
GasBandit
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There might be some cost effectiveness in bringing out the loppers in the less densely populated areas, but in the major population centers it's easier to just poison the well.
It's a lot easier to hide from the eunuch brigade than it is to hide from the only source of safe water and/or food for a 50 miles.
Besides, who's saying we can't do both, and more? A chemical approach, coupled with a manual approach, coupled with necessary gov't services being denied to those still fertile, etc.
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