Rush Limbaugh Calls Michelle Obama Fat

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What I think is funny is he is being a hypocrite pointing out her (alleged) hypocrisy.
 

North_Ranger

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Strange thing: Listening to Rush Limbaugh ranting while also listening to big band music (Dizzy Gillespie's Groovin' High) is oddly entertaining.
 
I don't see why you are so upset. Your wife wanted to breastfeed but it didn't work out. So what he is saying doesn't apply to her.

Breastfeed vs. Formula = lots of inconclusive data that goes back and forth.

Immunization vs. No Immunization = Hard conclusive evidence for Immunization.

If a woman doesn't want to breastfeed, that's her own damn business.
 
Breast feeding up here is sorta in flux.

What I mean is that breast feeding is being promoted but Newfoundland has an aging population that is very vocal about it being 'indecent', especially in public places. The old folks shame their younger relatives when the breast feed because, when they were raising kids, it simply wasn't done. You got Carnation Powdered milk and that's what you gave the child.

I remember when I told my grandmother that I had to give up attempting to breast feed Jet because of his condition she sighed in relief. "Thank the Lord. You'll give the boy a complex if he sees your privates. He'll become a pervert."

So, I guess you can say we have quite the opposite problem up here. That's why it seems so strange to me.
My wife is from Newfoundland and her whole family thinks it's bizzare and strange that she breastfed our son. Her friends and family that have young babies never even attempted it... just straight to formula.

Here in Alberta it's all over the place, but I personally see a lot more women breastfeeding than bottle feeding.

What was this thread about again?

 

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In this thread: Everyone makes up their own meaning for what Mathias actually said and then argues against it.

Welcome to my world, Mathias.
 
I don't like campaigns that infringe on my rights to do to my body what I want to do it. If I want to smoke a cigarette, fuck you, I'll smoke a cigarette. I know cigarette's are bad for you, but people who smoke are not the evil, weak-willed devils that anti-tobacco crusaders make them out to be. Tobacco smoking is very much ingrained in many cultures.
Yeah, people do take things too far most times.

But don't kid yourself, nicotine is addictive... try quitting cold turkey and see how you feel...
 
Breastfeed vs. Formula = lots of inconclusive data that goes back and forth.

Immunization vs. No Immunization = Hard conclusive evidence for Immunization.

If a woman doesn't want to breastfeed, that's her own damn business.
Depends on which side of the fight you are on Mathias, because if you ask the Immunization people there is lots of inconclusive data for actually getting them.

I have a point of view, breast feeding is a natural and normal way of doing things and should be the route take if ABLE. I understand that there are things in this world that take away from a persons ability to do things like breast feed and that formula is a viable alternative.
 
Are you calling me fat? I'll have you know that fat people have feelings too!
But their feelings don't matter because they'll just get drowned in all the ice cream...
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Depends on which side of the fight you are on Mathias, because if you ask the Immunization people there is lots of inconclusive data for actually getting them.
Well with vaccinations the effects (if the vaccine works) are guaranteed, while with stuff like breastfeeding it's more of a % thing, simply giving the kid better chances to have a strong immune system etc...
 
I was just pointing out the differences that make the comparison a bit iffy, not making a value judgement.

Of course breastfeeding and smoking are even more off.
 
Depends on which side of the fight you are on Mathias, because if you ask the Immunization people there is lots of inconclusive data for actually getting them.

I have a point of view, breast feeding is a natural and normal way of doing things and should be the route take if ABLE. I understand that there are things in this world that take away from a persons ability to do things like breast feed and that formula is a viable alternative.

NO! Fucking NO! There is NO inconclusive data about vaccination. NONE! The only findings that challenged anything about vaccination where falsified by the M.D. who started this whole craze. You're comparing apples to oranges.

The problem with breastmilk vs. formula studies is that they draw out over decades, and there are absolutely NO quantitative tests that prove anything one way or the other without introducing other variables like upbringing and environment. Breast feeding is perfectly natural; so is letting your child die if they can't get enough, or don't take the breast. It happens in nature all the time. By "natural" standards we should be pumping out children soon after puberty hits; by age 20 you should have had 10 kids (6 of which would have died, naturally).

That's what riles me up the most. People always view nature as this wholesome golden state of being. If a mother chooses NOT to breastfeed her child simply by the fact that she's not comfortable with it, you have no right to tell her otherwise. That's nature - mind your own damn business and stay busy competing for life on your own terms.
 
I wonder why Rush does not rail against all the presidents since 1916 for putting out dietary recommendations...

Also why does he make a big deal about Michele Obama eating ribs?
 
I wonder why Rush does not rail against all the presidents since 1916 for putting out dietary recommendations...

Also why does he make a big deal about Michele Obama eating ribs?
I was very surprised he didn't make some comment about watermelon or fried chicken. That's more restraint than he usually possesses.
 

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The problem with breastmilk vs. formula studies is that they draw out over decades, and there are absolutely NO quantitative tests that prove anything one way or the other without introducing other variables like upbringing and environment. Breast feeding is perfectly natural; so is letting your child die if they can't get enough, or don't take the breast. It happens in nature all the time. By "natural" standards we should be pumping out children soon after puberty hits; by age 20 you should have had 10 kids (6 of which would have died, naturally).
Where the heck did THAT come from?
 
He's right, you know. "Natural" means "without human intelligence intervening".... what he described is the "true" human condition before civilization... and even for a while after it.
 

North_Ranger

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It's still quite a heavy-handed argument. "You prefer breastfeeding over formula? Fine, let's stop using electricity, and medicine, and start having babies every nine months!"

Of course, I am also exaggerating, but the effect and the assumption is there.
 
It is a bit hyperbolic, of course, but his point, i think, is that people tend to champion "natural" stuff like it's the best, greatest thing.. when what's really "natural" is dying at 40 after having 10 kids, 6 or 7 of whom die before puberty.
 
There is a reason your sex drive when nutz when you were 15 (or 2 years either direction.) That is when your body expects to start having children.

The infant mortality numbers hold up pretty well, likely 6-8 kids by 20 if pumping them out every 9-12 months. My Dad's generation was quite common to have still-born babes and to lose kids to flu, measles and accidents. Out of the 8 kids my Grandmother had from 1920's through 1930's, only 4 made it past 60 and 3 are still alive, 2 in their 80's one still in his 70's.

They lost two in infancy, one around 22, one around 58, then one about 85. That puts their life expectancy around 51 years, which was the life expectancy for their generation.
 
It is a bit hyperbolic, of course, but his point, i think, is that people tend to champion "natural" stuff like it's the best, greatest thing.. when what's really "natural" is dying at 40 after having 10 kids, 6 or 7 of whom die before puberty.

Jesus, at least I'm getting through to someone here...
 
when what's really "natural" is dying at 40
No, that part is not true... the reason why the life expectancy was lower is because of the high child mortality rates... you made it past puberty chances where you'd live to 80 easy (ignoring war, abusing your body or epidemics).
 
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