The crazy state race continues...

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Applying that to MD's other numbers, a CFL is still more cost-effective, but not by a lot (around $10). $10 over 30,000 hours of use seems like an easy price to pay for more eco-friendly.
There's definitely value in that. Although it seems like LEDs don't disperse the light as much either. They tend to be a bit more directional. It probably isn't too bad, but it may make for some darker corners in your house.
 
Don't forget that LED's don't emit the heat traditional lights do. In the winter time it is less beneficial to have LED's than traditional lights because there is a noticeable rise in heating costs because of it.

Also, traffic lights.
 
Don't forget that LED's don't emit the heat traditional lights do. In the winter time it is less beneficial to have LED's than traditional lights because there is a noticeable rise in heating costs because of it.

Also, traffic lights.
Yeah, that was mentioned in the link I gave too. It is hard to estimate the cost there, but it is a very real variable.
 

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Ooh! NH is making a serious run for the title!

What a dumbass. And an EVIL dumbass at that!
 
fta said:
Harty confirmed to the Monitor that he made the comments to Omand. Harty told the Monitor the world population has increased dramatically, and “it’s a very dangerous situation if it doubles again.” Asked about people who are mentally ill, he asked, apparently referring to a lack of financial resources, “Can we afford to bring them through?”
Harty said nature has a way of “getting rid of stupid people,” and “now we’re saving everyone who gets born.”

That was his clarification.
 
I doubt he has one. At this point it's ether pure vengeance or an attempt to get as much of their agenda through before they get recalled.
Well then... I mean, he can't actually stop them from voting or their votes from counting can he? Wouldn't HE then face legal charges?
 
There isn't any. The vote they held to hold the 14 Democrat Senators in contempt of Congress was questionable at best. The condition of being in contempt that they put forth, that being they were in contempt because they were not at the capitol building, has already been met.

This is illegal. Pure and simple. To deny 14 districts a voice in the state Senate is beyond anything I've ever heard of.
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Well then... I mean, he can't actually stop them from voting or their votes from counting can he? Wouldn't HE then face legal charges?
You would think so. See why this is so upsetting?

What bothers me most is this isn't being reported in the mainstream news. This is just beyond words for me.
 
Ah, so as a legal basis they are using a questionable vote to hold the dems in contempt which, if true, would allow them to do this? I assume that the "in contempt" thing is being challenged then?
 
Ah, so as a legal basis they are using a questionable vote to hold the dems in contempt which, if true, would allow them to do this? I assume that the "in contempt" thing is being challenged then?
Yes, but that would require the state attorney general to get involved. He's a Republican. They pretty much have all the keys and locks at this point.

I'm hoping for National Guard intervention at this point. I just don't see any timely fix to this available.
 
Didn't you already post that?
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The intent of the law is to stop Muckraking Journalists from doing their jobs. Also to stop animal rights groups from creating footage of deplorable conditions on farms.

I don't know what troubles me more, the disregard for the First Amendment, or the ineptitude of the writer of that legislation. Since it also stops people from taking rural photos while on public property.
 
"What are you in for?"
"Killed a man. You?"
"Took pictures of farms without permission."
"Monster! Get away from me!!"
 
And, out of the blue, we have a new contender!

So Maine wants to roll back child labor laws by eliminating the cap on hours a 16 year old can work on a school day and remove minimum wage protections for those under 20. This would change the minimum wage earned by kids from $7.50/hour to $5.25/hour.
 
yeah i came here to say that Belgium had all of your states beaten but it would seem that even 290 days without a governement is not enough to even get a mention in the crazy State race

I love America :p
 
And, out of the blue, we have a new contender!

So Maine wants to roll back child labor laws by eliminating the cap on hours a 16 year old can work on a school day and remove minimum wage protections for those under 20. This would change the minimum wage earned by kids from $7.50/hour to $5.25/hour.
All right, if it was just one or the other, I wouldn't mind. If you're working part time with a cap on your hours because you're a student, then perhaps you should be at a lower standard of pay than your co-workers who are living off their paychecks. If you're 16, you can legally (in my state, at least) drop out of high school and therefore there shouldn't be a cap on how many hours you can work during a school day at that age. Doing both is moronic, because they have completely separate goals in mind.
 
Really? Getting paid less because you are younger sounds crazy to me. I suppose next we should pay women less, or discriminate pay by ethnicity. Doesn't sound so good now, does it?

Think it is hard for adults to get jobs now? Imagine them competing against people who can legally make $2 less an hour for the same work.
 
I do have issues with saying "X" people should get paid less but I don't have a problem with entry level jobs having a lower starting wage.
 
Well a housewife in the workforce already has a husband bringing in money...

I've heard so many arguments along these lines when people in power try to explain why teachers earn such little money.
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I do have issues with saying "X" people should get paid less but I don't have a problem with entry level jobs having a lower starting wage.
Yeah, why pay some one more to work than what it costs to drive there and back?
 
Wow, that is exactly what I said! How'd you do that?!?
We need to do everything we can to keep the poor from moving up. One good way to do that is to pay sub-urban teenagers less to do the same work, so people that need the money will be barred from employment.
 
Really? Getting paid less because you are younger sounds crazy to me. I suppose next we should pay women less, or discriminate pay by ethnicity. Doesn't sound so good now, does it?

Think it is hard for adults to get jobs now? Imagine them competing against people who can legally make $2 less an hour for the same work.
Getting paid less because you're only in high school is nowhere close to discriminating based on race or gender. In my state, high schoolers get more frequent breaks and can only work until nine PM on weeknights (at least, as I recall). Why exactly do they deserve to get paid the exact same hourly wage as adults who need the job to keep a roof over their head and food on their table? Now, equal work should mean equal pay but you can't argue that a high schooler who can work a maximum of five hours or so a day and gets a lunch break in that time that their adult counterparts do not is doing equal work.
 
I most certainly can. I don't think I ever worked as hard as when I worked at the nursing home in the kitchen. In Wisconsin they required places to give a 15 minute break for a 5 hour work shift (not a paid 30 minute), and I imagine it depends on the state.

What you use the money for should have NO BEARING on how much you get paid for the work you do. That gets reflected in raises. Those kids could be saving money for college, or even raising families in some cases. Can you honestly tell me that someone who is 18 or 19 should make less than a 20 year old for doing the same job simply because of the difference in age? That's messed up, yo.
 
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