[Gaming] D&D Jay's Game - She's Dead Jim

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rathkor

kinda. like, if you are gonna murder someone, doing so in the middle of combat, when youre almost certain a boss is around the corner, and the victim is a heavy damage dealer might not be the best time. do what Rusty would do, murder me in my sleep. or build a wall trapping me in a room with a giant plant monster. ;)
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Whats sad, i think Falagar has proven to be the best party member. FALAGAR! sigh
 
kinda. like, if you are gonna murder someone, doing so in the middle of combat, when youre almost certain a boss is around the corner, and the victim is a heavy damage dealer might not be the best time. do what Rusty would do, murder me in my sleep. or build a wall trapping me in a room with a giant plant monster. ;)
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Whats sad, i think Falagar has proven to be the best party member. FALAGAR! sigh
I was dispatching shadows and creating defensible positions! Not butchering innocents and sealing you in a tomb. :unibrow:

Also, it's hilarious that a Raise Dead scroll is 680 gp and you have just enough.
 
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rathkor

But Jay says no. But if you had the scoll already, it would only take 500 for the components.
 
Don't worry, we have 30 days to raise you. Perhaps in secret where no one is watching and Rathkor returns in a few levels as a BBEG!

Dun dun dun!
 
Another no good useless tiefling! Why I bet you would kill your own comrade in combat just for an imagined slight! I'll be watching you!
 
That sounds about right. You most likely killed them all in their sleep just like the rest of your no good race. Probably stacked their bodies twenty high and used them for shade in the summer you vile slaughterous bloodthirsty horn headed baby killer!
 
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rathkor

DON'T YOU EVER SAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT AGAIN YOU WORTHLESS HAIRY HALFLING!! I WILL GLADLY CURSE ALL THOSE CLOSE TO YOU JUST TO LET YOU KNOW HOW IT FEELS TO LOSE THOSE YOU CARE ABOUT!!!
 
DM words from the heart!

Yeah about raise dead.... I generally don't like the concept of character coming back to life after they are dead at least... without some serious consequences. As a DM who wants to inspire fear of repercussions in your acts and lack of survival having someone throw 700GP at the problem and an extended rest a bit of a downer.

The flavour text of the ritual is "You bend over the body of your slain comrade, applying sacramental unguents. Finally his eyes flutter open as he is restored to life."

You bend over for 8 hours and give life? Really?

I find the lack of information about what it takes to cast the Raise Dead ritual annoying and unless I'm forced to house rule it I feel they have been missed is an excellent role playing opportunity in this regard. Overtime I'll come up with mine.

As far as Rathkor is concerned his spirit is lost forever in the high plane of dreams and for the sake of avoiding reprisals with players killing eachother in each session I want to move on.


Overall though, I don't like the Raise Dead ritual though I am intrigued by it. I mean, all societies in Faerûn have grappled with the question of what happens beyond life. In a society where the ability to raise the dead exists the question becomes what does it take to bring a soul back and restore the body to life? What toll is imposed on the caster of such a spell? What is truly involved in casting such a ritual?

The individual being raised suffers some penalties until three milestones are reached, but the caster seemingly walks away with no implications. I would imagine that casting such a ritual is a very draining emotional and spiritual experience. I mean after all, Jesus wept.

I don't want a player death to be an inconvenience. Where... opps I died. LOLs, extended rest or if as a DM being a bit of an asshole force you to go back to town pulling you out of the dungeon so you can have a Raise Dead ritual cast in town and then go back into the dungeon. Basically in a meta-game perspective this running around the block is done so that the dead character can get back in on the action.

This behavior causes us to miss a really great role playing moment. I mean, the guy who casts Raise Dead... I imagine that they invoke the power of their deity. Further to that they actively negotiate that the soul be returned and the body restored. This ritual in effect is a mortal is bargaining with a divine power.... a power that on a whim could make world altering decisions. This is not the type of being that you negotiate with lightly... as the cost will be far more than a few shitty hundred gold pieces.

I believe the caster invests a part of themselves in the ritual. Such a spiritual toll might manifest in a personal piece of themselves being taken away.


Anyways, as it stands in the book the Raise Dead ritual is a very easy way to bring a dead character back into the game. It allows the player to continue to play a character they have invested their time into with minimal penalties. As I said before campaign would be different and your repercussions will be noted and it's not the easy way.

I'll find a way some day to deal with this when another player dies in the campaign storyline. I just wasn't overly fond of having a murdered character come back to life as a Revenant in the same group and continue the drama as that is not what I want specifically my campaign to focus on.

Hope you understand. :)
 
I see the raise dead ritual being enacted similar to the ceremony used in Conan the Barbarian movie. And the simplest way for you to bring about RP for rituals is to house rule the use of residuum so that it cannot be substituted for certain rituals.

Imagine Helga and Rusty with their new companion Ire go back out into the cold wastelands of the north, desperate to find the rare ingredients needed to bring Falagar back to life.
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DON'T YOU EVER SAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT AGAIN YOU WORTHLESS HAIRY HALFLING!! I WILL GLADLY CURSE ALL THOSE CLOSE TO YOU JUST TO LET YOU KNOW HOW IT FEELS TO LOSE THOSE YOU CARE ABOUT!!!
Actually the core of Rusty is that he has indeed lost all those close to him. Curse you for bringing that into a ridiculous imaginary banterous rant between fictional characters!
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I find the lack of information about what it takes to cast the Raise Dead ritual annoying and unless I'm forced to house rule it I feel they have been missed is an excellent role playing opportunity in this regard. Overtime I'll come up with mine.
That is in a nutshell what 4e is all about. WoTC will only make rules for game mechanics, RP is up to you.
 
I expect you and your lack of surges will result in your death some time during the next two fights before we exit the HPOD. Rusty is no where near Jaisahn when it comes to healing, and even Jaisahn would struggle to keep someone alive for two encounters without healing surges.
 
I expect you and your lack of surges will result in your death some time during the next two fights before we exit the HPOD. Rusty is no where near Jaisahn when it comes to healing, and even Jaisahn would struggle to keep someone alive for two encounters without healing surges.
Sure, but... you were telling Jay to imagine. Can you really imagine this group without Tyrdin? What would we be then?
 
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plus no one considers the teammate murderer a companion anymor, i'd imagine. perhaps you should offer to pay for booze. that helped Helga forgive Rathkor. Incidentally, Rathkor still owed Helga a few rounds... lol
 
Everyone should consider what a favor it is that we will never experience another botch Blazing Starfall, another enormous demon rising, or another someone's mother's head getting exploded.
 
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Unless of course Tyrdin rises as an enourmous demon amd explodes some mother's heads. lol
 
Everyone should consider what a favor it is that we will never experience another botch Blazing Starfall, another enormous demon rising, or another someone's mother's head getting exploded.
You've just guaranteed that all of those things will happen!

I expect while searching to save Falagar, we might have some assistance from Ragalaf and Nidryt, a pair of trustworthy travellers.
 
Same reasons as Tyrdin, already bloodied with no surges left and two more fights to go, including a potential BBEG.
 
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Falagar has a habit or Besting the BBEGs and landing the killing blow, much to Helda's anger, and our amusement. lol
 
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Don't believe in Falagar, believe in the me that believes in Falagar! His is the drill that will pierce the heavens! Row row, fight the powah!
 
I'm with HC on this. I see Rusty and Helga leaving the plane safely. At best, Tyrdin, Falagar and Simkin will drop into some miasma ethereal state and need to be dragged out as much as one can drag spirits.

And I'm not ruling out a TPK. I've only got two surges left myself, and I'm the only one who can stand much longer in here. And as soon as Tyrdin, Simkin and ESPECIALLY Falagar vanish, we won't even have a surge-trading ritual available. The ritual requires five people, I believe; losing even one more person makes it worthless.

For people who question Helga's decision to "let Tyrdin off easy", suffice it to say she's thinking a little more long-term than that. And by "a little more", I mean we could all be dead or vanished within two hours.
 
One last door before the final big door. What will happen to this ragtag group? Opinions on what is going to happen? Is happening? Will the company of Lout's journey end in Good Mead?
 

doomdragon6

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I still have 7 HPOD points left. That's at minimum 2 more roles and at most 7, with a likelihood of 3-4 rolls, so it probably won't be too bad.

At any rate, I'm going to miss Rathkor, I'm unhappy that he's dead, and now I have two devil men instead of just one, so I can't even call Tyrdin Devil Man anymore.

Actually, it's not unlikely that Falagar would think that they're the same person and never notice there's two tieflings.
 
Falagar to Ire, "Why have you changed clothes again Tyrdin, goodness your a vain devil man."
Ire, "Woman!"
Falagar, "That doesn't seem likely, you're not asking for my autograph."
 
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rathkor

Thank god. I was actually worried I was going to have to endure getting hit on by Falagar. Squick. plus, it would be funny to see Falagar call someone calling someone else vain for changing clothes considering e changed his robes to red and wouldnt shut up about it. haha.
 
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rathkor

well, the group was kinda coming off as a sausage fest. i was tryin to diversify things a bit. :p lol I've never actueally RP'd a gal before. should be interesting.
 
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