WTF Wisconsin? (Formerly Walker convo thread)

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0.1% difference in the vote totals, with 98.5% of all precincts reporting.

And guess what county has the most precincts not reporting as of the current time? (hint: MKE)
 
According to the AP, with all but 34 precincts reporting, Prosser is up by only 585 votes.

585 votes. Hear that, Mr. Walker?
 
According to the AP, with all but 34 precincts reporting, Prosser is up by only 585 votes.

585 votes. Hear that, Mr. Walker?
Sounds like 585 patriotic Americans are standing up to liberal-commie union dogs whose only purpose is to drain the state dry. We all know how those evil teachers are.
 
Sounds like 585 patriotic Americans are standing up to liberal-commie union dogs whose only purpose is to drain the state dry. We all know how those evil teachers are.
Yeah, dirty teachers getting in the way of all that wealth that needs to go to the corporations so they can trickle it back down on the rest of us.
 
This is getting weird. Apparently, the AP says that one precinct hasn't reported in Madison, but the Dane County website says all precincts have reported...
 
Based on what Crawford and Dunn counties have on their websites, and based on the Dane County totals (which may not be complete), Prosser is leading by a scant 356 votes.

Some perspective: there are only 72 counties in the state of Wisconsin. In those 72 counties are 3,630 wards where people vote. All but 30-34 of those wards have reported their final votes in the SC election.

The difference between the two is roughly five votes per county, or one extra vote for every 10 wards in the state.
 
Associated Press said:
JoAnne Kloppenburg leads Justice David Prosser on Wednesday morning by just 369 votes of the nearly 1.5 million cast. Ninety-nine percent of precincts have reported results.
Damn, that is crazy close.
 
According to the AP, with all but 34 precincts reporting, Prosser is up by only 585 votes.

585 votes. Hear that, Mr. Walker?
If I can be so bold, the fact that Prosser is even winning, let alone by 585 votes should be very disheartening. There was a MASSIVE uprising and the general consensus was that Prosser had no chance in hell of winning. It sounds like the quiet majority may have had some different feelings about Mr Walker than your take on it.
 
If I can be so bold, the fact that Prosser is even winning, let alone by 585 votes should be very disheartening. There was a MASSIVE uprising and the general consensus was that Prosser had no chance in hell of winning. It sounds like the quiet majority may have had some different feelings about Mr Walker than your take on it.
You'd be very wrong. Kloppenburg is an unknown, she was down more than 30 points a couple weeks ago, Wisconsin has only twice voted out a sitting state Supreme Court member, and the GOP outspent the Democrat 3 to 2. I'd say that is amazing.
 
You'd be very wrong. Kloppenburg is an unknown, she was down more than 30 points a couple weeks ago, Wisconsin has only twice voted out a sitting state Supreme Court member, and the GOP outspent the Democrat 3 to 2. I'd say that is amazing.
As I remember, a couple of weeks ago there was some event that galvanized a massive swarm of people against a sitting Republican governor making a stupid law. It shouldn't be close.
 
As I remember, a couple of weeks ago there was some event that galvanized a massive swarm of people against a sitting Republican governor making a stupid law. It shouldn't be close.
I think you are forgetting something. This is a Judicial race. Judges on the Supreme court are supposed to be non-partisan. Want a referendum? The Milwaukee County Executive seat race went handily to the Democrat. This was the position that was held by Walker before he became Governor. That, and I'm not even sure I would have voted for the Democrat. Believe me, he's nothing to get excited about.
 
I think you are forgetting something. This is a Judicial race. Judges on the Supreme court are supposed to be non-partisan. Want a referendum? The Milwaukee County Executive seat race went handily to the Democrat. This was the position that was held by Walker before he became Governor. That, and I'm not even sure I would have voted for the Democrat. Believe me, he's nothing to get excited about.
I don't think anyone thinks this was a non-partisan race, at all. Especially with signs like this:
 
Ok, I stand corrected by a sign. That takes all my points and makes them moot.
Ok Mr Snarky Pants. It's still a little naive to say that a judicial race in such a politically charged climate is non-partisan. You had Queen of Stupidity Sarah Palin Herself put out a message of support for Prosser.
 
When you're that big, they call you Mister.
You callin me fat?

Yeah, I got a little snarky. I don't think you can take a race where the person who came back from all those negatives and end up with a virtual tie didn't fulfill expectations on an angry populous. I also don't think that most Wisconsinites buy that Prosser is somehow involved with the move Walker made, and he has said he doesn't agree with the bill. While this is probably just lip service, it says a lot that as many people still took it that way.
 
Here is how close this vote is:

Last night, the Brewers finally won a game on the season, over the Braves. The boxscore says that there were 24,117 fans in the stands last night. Now, stick with me here, there's a reason. Imagine that about, oh, three-quarters of those fans were Wisconsin residents of legal voting age. That's roughly 18,000 fans.

If you had the ability to canvass all of the fans who went through the turnstiles last night, and asked them who they voted for in the SC election, it is likely - based upon the actual voting results - that Kloppenburg would win by a margin of three or four votes.

Ponder that for a moment: three people in the stands, maybe four, who were the difference in a state-wide election. You would have more fans who caught a foul ball than were the difference between the two candidates.

Yes, this was for a "non-partisan" election*. Yes, this is a historic situation for a judiciary race. But, to realize that the difference in the voting was roughly one vote's difference in 5,000 (0.02%) - simply boggles the mind.

* - It should be pointed out that Judge Prosser was a Republican member of the Wisconsin State Assembly (essentially the "lower house" of the state legislature, analogous to the House of Representatives) for 18 years prior - and ran for a House seat in 1996 as well, before being named to the Wisconsin Supreme court in 1998 by Tommy Thompson. He is about as "non-partisan" as Rush Limbaugh.
 
It isn't over. Prosser somehow magically gained 7,500 votes from the city of Brookfield, which is in Waukesha County and leans heavily Republican. The woman being interviewed on the radio is stressing that these aren't new votes, but votes that were somehow missed when the auditing process began.

Wouldn't you know it, 7500 is just enough to put the vote at over 0.5%. Just enough to make any recount by the challenger need to be paid for out of her own pocket.
 
You know what's BULLSHIT? All of this. And I imagine the DNC will be more than willing to pay for the recount... right after they start suing everyone.
 
Look at this... not the first time in recent memory of shenanigans in Waukesha.... by the same woman.

And more... here

[/quote]Nickolaus was given immunity from prosecution in a 2002 criminal investigation into illegal activity by members of the assembly Republican Caucus. She worked for 13 years as a data analyst and computer specialist for the caucus.[/quote]

I was skeptical before, but now I'm downright angry. It doesn't get much dirtier than this.
 
New development in the recall efforts by the GOP- according to the Democratic party of Wisconsin, a large number of signatures have been found to be fraudulent, either by the respondent being misled or never having signed the petitions.

Some of the cases and examples of election fraud outlined in the formal recall challenge of GOP petitions to be filed this afternoon include:
  • Senate District 12: Of the 534 people contacted who had signed the petition, 9.2% indicated they were misled into signing the petition or asserted they had never signed.
  • Senate District 22: Of the 225 people contacted who had signed the petition, 6.6% indicated they were misled into signing the petition or asserted they had never signed.
  • Senate District 30: Of the 372 people contacted who had signed the petition, 8.6% indicated they were misled into signing the petition or asserted they had never signed.
  • Affidavit of a World War II veteran from Green Bay who was misled into signing a recall petition. Upon learning he had been duped, veteran called the sheriff to get his name removed. When confronted, the circulator claims he will remove the name, but a later review of the petitions reveals the veteran's name was never crossed off.
  • Many affidavits attesting that Circulator Sherri Ferrell - who gathered nearly 3,000 signatures in two districts -- gathered signatures on Indian reservations claiming petitions were to support "schools," "Democrats," and "tribal rights."
  • Affidavit of voter in Senate District 22 attesting that circulator John Prijic claimed the petitions were for work to be done on a local park.
  • Affidavit of voter in Senate District 30 attesting that circulator Annette Lord claimed the petitions were to recall Republican Senator Cowles.
  • Affidavit of voter in Senate District 30 attesting that circulator Richard Madrill claimed the petitions were to recall Republican Gov. Scott Walker.
  • William Pocan’s forged name appears on line 10, page 362 of circulator Kevin Pursell’s petition. As his widow Corinne Pocan’s affidavit attests, William Pocan has been deceased 20 years, although his name remains in the phone book. Pursell circulated numerous pages.
  • Claims by many Wisconsin citizens who were misled by out-of-state circulators who claimed they could sign on behalf of other people.
  • Numerous examples of fake addresses and signatures appearing on GOP recall petitions, as well as sloppily gathered signatures also missing critical information.
  • Summary of out-of-state circulators hired by GOP with largest percentages of fraud or deception on GOP recall petitions:
That is a lot of errors. Did they really think no one would check?
 
I'd be willing to believe that a good number of the names were fake (who hasn't signed a petition with a fake and humorous name at least once in their life times?) but ten percent seems a little high. However, that's no excuse for the outright lying.
 
You bet I did. I'm just hoping that the shenanigans going on doesn't prevent his recall. There was an arrest here in town of a man destroying a recall form by scribbling all over it. Plus, the idiot state attorney general saying that people can't print recall forms and send them in is a crock of shit. Honestly, these people disgust me.
 
You can be both a signer and a circulator. Van Hoohah can say what he wants, the state law says otherwise.
 
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