Bin laden is dead!

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Cajungal

Cajungal

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Jay said:
On top of that image let me say this as a Canadian to you my fellow Americans.

I really hope that this Bin Laden killing doesn't turn into partisan bickering. It's a great day for ALL Americans (and their allies) as well as and all the victims of Al Qaeda. It doesn't matter if you're a Republican or a Democrat... Christian or Muslim whatever the hell your party/religion/(sexual orientation?) is. Yes, at this point this news might be largely symbolic but it's still a huge story and a great achievement no matter what party you're affiliated with, who you vote for, who you pray to. The world's a better place today.

If you can't accept that, there's a little red x on the top right of the screen, don't poop on other people's happiness because you cannot feel the same way. Have some respect of taking your ball and going home.
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Well put.
 
Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

Now who's arrogant? You're just saying the world is a better place and that's that. I disagree. And I'm not just saying that to piss everyone off here.
 
Officer_Charon

Officer_Charon

The Lovely Boehner said:
The video of everyone celebrating and waving flags in the streets outside the White House reminds me of 9/11 when we saw the video of people celebrating in Middle Eastern streets.
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If you're going to make comparisons, why not go whole hog? Compare to Somalis celebrating the downing of two Blackhawks, dragging American corpses through the streets? Or, hell, go for the OBVIOUS, and liken it to a Nazi Party rally? Why half-ass it?
 
Gusto

Gusto

I am not directing this at anyone in particular, I just want it to be said.

This is important news, much too important to be relegated to the Politics forum or locked. Let's try to respect other's rights to post their opinions, no matter how alien and out there they might seem.
 
Bumble the Boy Wonder

Bumble the Boy Wonder

Gusto said:
I am not directing this at anyone in particular, I just want it to be said.

This is important news, much too important to be relegated to the Politics forum or locked. Let's try to respect other's rights to post their opinions, no matter how alien and out there they might seem.
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You smell.
 
Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

They were celebrating a strike against people they demonized for killing innocents in their homeland.

We're celebrating the same thing. It's two sides of the same coin. We're all humans, fuck. The American Exceptionalism just makes me sick sometimes.
 
SpecialKO

SpecialKO

You're trying to force a moral equivalency between the deaths of 3000 innocent people and 1 man who has openly gloated on an international level of the deaths he's caused? Isn't that just a bit grotesque?
 
blotsfan

blotsfan

The Lovely Boehner said:
They were celebrating a strike against people they demonized for killing innocents in their homeland.

We're celebrating the same thing. It's two sides of the same coin. We're all humans, fuck. The American Exceptionalism just makes me sick sometimes.
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They celebrated the killing of people who lived in the country that they demonized for killing innocents in their homeland. We celebrate the killing of the person that actually killed the innocent people in our homeland.
 
Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

SpecialKO said:
You're trying to force a moral equivalency between the deaths of 3000 innocent people and 1 man who has openly gloated on an international level of the deaths he's caused? Isn't that just a bit grotesque?
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I am 100% certain the United States Military has killed at least 3,000 innocents in the middle east.
 
Jay

Jay

Here is the full text of US President Barack Obama’s statement on Osama bin Laden’s death:

Good evening. Tonight, I can report to the American people and to the world that the United States has conducted an operation that killed Osama bin Laden, the leader of Al-Qaeda, and a terrorist who’s responsible for the murder of thousands of innocent men, women, and children.

It was nearly 10 years ago that a bright September day was darkened by the worst attack on the American people in our history. The images of 9/11 are seared into our national memory — hijacked planes cutting through a cloudless September sky; the Twin Towers collapsing to the ground; black smoke billowing up from the Pentagon; the wreckage of Flight 93 in Shanksville, Pennsylvania, where the actions of heroic citizens saved even more heartbreak and destruction.

And yet we know that the worst images are those that were unseen to the world. The empty seat at the dinner table. Children who were forced to grow up without their mother or their father. Parents who would never know the feeling of their child’s embrace. Nearly 3,000 citizens taken from us, leaving a gaping hole in our hearts.

On September 11, 2001, in our time of grief, the American people came together. We offered our neighbors a hand, and we offered the wounded our blood. We reaffirmed our ties to each other, and our love of community and country. On that day, no matter where we came from, what God we prayed to, or what race or ethnicity we were, we were united as one American family.

We were also united in our resolve to protect our nation and to bring those who committed this vicious attack to justice. We quickly learned that the 9/11 attacks were carried out by Al-Qaeda — an organization headed by Osama bin Laden, which had openly declared war on the United States and was committed to killing innocents in our country and around the globe. And so we went to war against Al-Qaeda to protect our citizens, our friends, and our allies.

Over the last 10 years, thanks to the tireless and heroic work of our military and our counterterrorism professionals, we’ve made great strides in that effort. We’ve disrupted terrorist attacks and strengthened our homeland defense. In Afghanistan, we removed the Taliban government, which had given bin Laden and Al-Qaeda safe haven and support. And around the globe, we worked with our friends and allies to capture or kill scores of Al-Qaeda terrorists, including several who were a part of the 9/11 plot.

Yet Osama bin Laden avoided capture and escaped across the Afghan border into Pakistan. Meanwhile, Al-Qaeda continued to operate from along that border and operate through its affiliates across the world.

And so shortly after taking office, I directed Leon Panetta, the director of the CIA, to make the killing or capture of bin Laden the top priority of our war against Al-Qaeda, even as we continued our broader efforts to disrupt, dismantle, and defeat his network.

Then, last August, after years of painstaking work by our intelligence community, I was briefed on a possible lead to bin Laden. It was far from certain, and it took many months to run this thread to ground. I met repeatedly with my national security team as we developed more information about the possibility that we had located bin Laden hiding within a compound deep inside of Pakistan. And finally, last week, I determined that we had enough intelligence to take action, and authorized an operation to get Osama bin Laden and bring him to justice.

Today, at my direction, the United States launched a targeted operation against that compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan. A small team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability. No Americans were harmed. They took care to avoid civilian casualties. After a firefight, they killed Osama bin Laden and took custody of his body.

For over two decades, bin Laden has been Al-Qaeda’s leader and symbol, and has continued to plot attacks against our country and our friends and allies. The death of bin Laden marks the most significant achievement to date in our nation’s effort to defeat Al-Qaeda.

Yet his death does not mark the end of our effort. There’s no doubt that Al-Qaeda will continue to pursue attacks against us. We must — and we will — remain vigilant at home and abroad.

As we do, we must also reaffirm that the United States is not — and never will be — at war with Islam. I’ve made clear, just as President Bush did shortly after 9/11, that our war is not against Islam. Bin Laden was not a Muslim leader; he was a mass murderer of Muslims. Indeed, Al-Qaeda has slaughtered scores of Muslims in many countries, including our own. So his demise should be welcomed by all who believe in peace and human dignity.

Over the years, I’ve repeatedly made clear that we would take action within Pakistan if we knew where bin Laden was. That is what we’ve done. But it’s important to note that our counterterrorism cooperation with Pakistan helped lead us to bin Laden and the compound where he was hiding. Indeed, bin Laden had declared war against Pakistan as well, and ordered attacks against the Pakistani people.

Tonight, I called President Zardari, and my team has also spoken with their Pakistani counterparts. They agree that this is a good and historic day for both of our nations. And going forward, it is essential that Pakistan continue to join us in the fight against al Qaeda and its affiliates.

The American people did not choose this fight. It came to our shores, and started with the senseless slaughter of our citizens. After nearly 10 years of service, struggle, and sacrifice, we know well the costs of war. These efforts weigh on me every time I, as Commander-in-Chief, have to sign a letter to a family that has lost a loved one, or look into the eyes of a service member who’s been gravely wounded.

So Americans understand the costs of war. Yet as a country, we will never tolerate our security being threatened, nor stand idly by when our people have been killed. We will be relentless in defense of our citizens and our friends and allies. We will be true to the values that make us who we are. And on nights like this one, we can say to those families who have lost loved ones to Al-Qaeda’s terror: Justice has been done.

Tonight, we give thanks to the countless intelligence and counterterrorism professionals who’ve worked tirelessly to achieve this outcome. The American people do not see their work, nor know their names. But tonight, they feel the satisfaction of their work and the result of their pursuit of justice.

We give thanks for the men who carried out this operation, for they exemplify the professionalism, patriotism, and unparalleled courage of those who serve our country. And they are part of a generation that has borne the heaviest share of the burden since that September day.

Finally, let me say to the families who lost loved ones on 9/11 that we have never forgotten your loss, nor wavered in our commitment to see that we do whatever it takes to prevent another attack on our shores.

And tonight, let us think back to the sense of unity that prevailed on 9/11. I know that it has, at times, frayed. Yet today’s achievement is a testament to the greatness of our country and the determination of the American people.

The cause of securing our country is not complete. But tonight, we are once again reminded that America can do whatever we set our mind to. That is the story of our history, whether it’s the pursuit of prosperity for our people, or the struggle for equality for all our citizens; our commitment to stand up for our values abroad, and our sacrifices to make the world a safer place.

Let us remember that we can do these things not just because of wealth or power, but because of who we are: one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Thank you. May God bless you. And may God bless the United States of America.”
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Krisken

Krisken

I guess what I don't understand is, who is supposedly upset about this? Who is really put out by the death of Osama bin Laden? No one here, for sure. The Muslim nation? Of course not, they were as terrified of him as anyone was.

I'm not seeing why this is the tragedy you purport it to be, TLB.
 
Jay

Jay

Yes please. Ignore the troll and don't let it hijack the thread.

Anyways....Brofist from Canada... my American Bros


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Cheesy1

Cheesy1

Agree to disagree, people. This "My morality dick is bigger than your morality dick!" back and forth does get old pretty damn quickly.
 
@Li3n

@Li3n

So Obama is getting re-elected for sure now. And releasing the long form right before too, nice.

SpecialKO said:
So when we celebrate killing 3,000 or more people, than you would have an actual moral equivalency.
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So it's fine for only 2999....

I think sticking to "when we celebrate killing civilians" might have been a better idea.
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Jiarn said:
Our presence in the Arab countries will lessen. Our involvement in those countries will lessen.
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:rofl:

Oh man, thanks for that, i really needed a laugh monday morning.
 
B

Balkoth

SpecialKO said:
So when we celebrate killing 3,000 or more people, than you would have an actual moral equivalency. Right now, that's not what you are doing.
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But you are doing that! Do you think in the 10 years since 9/11 you only killed bad guys ? More than 3000 innocent civilians died in both wars the American Government started as "revenge" . Thus when you come out and celebrate Osama's death in essence you are doing exactly what lowly educated Arabs did back in 2001.

As for the war of terror ending, dream on. This war started because it's not possible to stop it, ever. By the simple act of stomping out a terrorist organization you spawn another.

That said though his death IS a good thing and let me congratulate you on a job well done. Please don't make him a martyr by parading his body around and just let him be forgoten.
 
J

Jiarn

So his body was "put out to sea" within hours. How delicious this is going to be for the conspiracy trolls.
 
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