Those slutty kids where totally asking for it...
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makare
but women's flesh is a sin and must be covered lest their evil seduction spell force men to rape them.
she was dressed like a witch.
I think you have a good point. I was a teen in the 80s, and we had mini-skirts, painted-on jeans, Madonna-inspired fashion, etc. And people wore them to school. And it was no big deal. But we didn't have the hyper-sexualization that kids deal with today, which gives them very skewed self-image problems.
I think it's more important to worry about attitude than wardrobe. It's the decisions that kids make that get them in trouble, not their clothes. A mini-skirt or tight jeans does not make a kid go alone to meet someone they met on Facebook. Blaming clothing is just avoiding the real issues (because then you might have to start down the path of "Parental Responsibility").
Yeah it will. You'll get laughed at in the back room when the manager tells the rest of the employees about the weirdo who just chewed her out over something that's completely out of their hands.
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I was going to make an argument but since what I am actually saying doesn't seem to be coming into play here I'll just stick with this.
Dude, you got schooled. Just take it with grace and move on.
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makare
No someone got schooled. Someone who said the things she was reacting to, but it wasn't me. I didn't say anything about sluts or whores and I certainly didn't say anything about belly dancers, or any any dancers, being sluts or whores. I guess instead of eye roll I guess facepalm would be more appropriate.
I dunno, I got the impression you were down the "won't someone think of the children" slope.
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And yes! WE GOTS US SOME FORUM DRAMA AGAINS!
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makare
ok I lold and now I feel dirty. sigh.
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makare
now buff your balls
You don't fuck with De-Jesus.
When I was in junior high/senior high school I was a goth.
I don't know if you any of you guys have seen your stereotypical teenage gothic chick but I have no trouble saying that the look is very slutty. That was me with the exception of white face powder, I was already as white as the driven snow.
My Dad didn't like this look I was going for but he knew it was going to be hard to break me from it. So, instead we hashed out some rules. For example, if I was to wear a fishnet shirt (oh god, did I just type that?) I had to wear a something other than a tiny tank top in under it, so a T-shirt. I was a bit upset..but I went with it and I was better for it. I was never called a slut like some of the other goth girls and was treated a lot better then them.
Besides the fashion rules my Dad also educated me. It was a scarey talk about avoiding dark places and never 'letting' a man do what he wanted to me out of fear. Looking back on it he was really struggling to not scaring the shit out of me but to empower me. He didn't want me looking at myself as something to be leered at by men...but wanted me to be aware that it was going to happen anyways and I should be prepared for it.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that, yes, the way you dress is going to attract attention, some (most?) of it negative. However, I think the parents and schools should be educating children better.
If my Dad is any indication, this is easier said then done.
I don't know if you any of you guys have seen your stereotypical teenage gothic chick but I have no trouble saying that the look is very slutty. That was me with the exception of white face powder, I was already as white as the driven snow.
My Dad didn't like this look I was going for but he knew it was going to be hard to break me from it. So, instead we hashed out some rules. For example, if I was to wear a fishnet shirt (oh god, did I just type that?) I had to wear a something other than a tiny tank top in under it, so a T-shirt. I was a bit upset..but I went with it and I was better for it. I was never called a slut like some of the other goth girls and was treated a lot better then them.
Besides the fashion rules my Dad also educated me. It was a scarey talk about avoiding dark places and never 'letting' a man do what he wanted to me out of fear. Looking back on it he was really struggling to not scaring the shit out of me but to empower me. He didn't want me looking at myself as something to be leered at by men...but wanted me to be aware that it was going to happen anyways and I should be prepared for it.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that, yes, the way you dress is going to attract attention, some (most?) of it negative. However, I think the parents and schools should be educating children better.
If my Dad is any indication, this is easier said then done.
Can I wear a mini-skirt to this school?
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If you're not implying anything about belly dancing, then why the fuck are you using such strong language regarding someone getting their kid a belly dancing costume? What the fuck was your intent in that sentence then, because I'm pretty fucking certain that "fuck" is a word commonly used for fucking emphasis. One does not usually berate Wal-Mart managers over items they don't have a fucking problem with.makare said:
If you have no problem with belly dancing, and did not mean to imply anything about belly dancers, then WTF?
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makare
Here is the rest of the quote-
Some made sense, for adults anyway, along the theme of the costume like belly dancer
Some made sense, for adults anyway, along the theme of the costume like belly dancer
Goalie fights are just kind of sad. They just keep swinging and swinging and not a goddamned thing comes of it.
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Imma go sit in the penalty box now.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!?!
WOMEN WEARING BURQAS ARE MERELY WALKING PHALLUSES... PHALLII... PHALANGES... OH WHATEVER.
Your dad sounds like a good guy. And some guys even like a little modesty, hell a little mystery is usually a great thing for most guys. You can be sexy without looking trashy is my wifes motto.
On a related note: I knew a ton of goth kids in the scene back in the day and honestly I never felt like it was any "sluttier" of a look than anything else.
It's a good thing they're wearing protection then.
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makare
rubber burqa
Man, is that HOT!
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makare
rubber does not breathe
Going for the necrophilia angle, eh?
Makare, I apologize for blowing up like I did. It's just a really big trigger point for me when belly dancing is labeled "inappropriate", even for kids. Dancers have been fighting that perception for a long time. My only excuse is that I'm already having a stressful day, which isn't really a good excuse. I should have taken a deep breath (or 100) and then replied more diplomatically.
I'm just going to go ahead and give myself the Drama Llama.
I'm just going to go ahead and give myself the Drama Llama.
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makare
It's alright. I really don't have a problem with the belly dancing outfit for actual belly dancing not for adults or kids. I just have a problem with skimpy halloween costumes for little girls who don't really understand what is going on. Jazz dance costumes for little girls are also pretty revealing but that is not for sexiness (usually) it is for movement for dancing. I would assume it is the same for belly dancing. Just part of the form.
The thing is nothing is really going on, unless the parents are actually trying to pimp their kids (see toddlers and tiara's), and then not allowing access to those clothes won't fix even 1% of the actual problem...
It's like if you're wearing a burka and another woman is wearing slutty clothes while a rapist is looking for a victim... maybe he'll choose her because of the clothes, but someone still gets raped... while if you where both wearing the same clothes i'd be 50-50...
dude, Feminist is not the preferred nomenclature
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