Another fargin' Transformers movie?

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Jay said:
How much did The Hurt Locker make? And how much did Avatar make?
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Oh, you could do better than that.

The Hurt Locker: 40 million
Epic Movie: 86.9 million

Thus, Epic Movie is better than The Hurt Locker. Damn, people are stupid...
 
ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

I was not planning to see the movie, but the Flix Brewhouse just opened behind my house, which I have been dying to try out since I found out they were building it. The only movie I even have a remote hint of interest is Transformers 3, so I guess that will have to be it this week.
 
Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

ScytheRexx said:
I was not planning to see the movie, but the Flix Brewhouse just opened behind my house, which I have been dying to try out since I found out they were building it. The only movie I even have a remote hint of interest is Transformers 3, so I guess that will have to be it this week.
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Bad Teacher is supposedly pretty funny. And fuck, the drive to the Alamo Drafthouse is worth it.

edit: I spoke before I checked out the beer menu. That's impressive
 
ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

Charlie Don't Surf said:
Bad Teacher is supposedly pretty funny. And fuck, the drive to the Alamo Drafthouse is worth it.
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Oh trust me, whenever I do go to a movie I always hit the Alamo, it is actually not that long of a drive for me. Just shoot down the toll road and it takes ten minutes. My interest is the fact the Flix Brewhouse is literally right behind my house, walking distance, and seems to be similar to the Alamo. I want to see how well it actually holds up. If it does, I may go there more often. If it does not, I always got the Alamo.]

Not really interested in Bad Teacher, though I may see if that changes. Can't go to the movie for another week anyways.
 
sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

I saw it last night for $5. And I did not feel completely ripped off, like I did the last two times.

Just a generally dumb pop-corn flick, with out insulting the audience too greatly.

I felt entertained at the end of it.
 
Shegokigo

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Would have made a more watchable Transformers flick.

I'm very glad the garbage that was done to the series is finished with film. It can go back to resting in peace.... sorta.
 
Espy

Espy

They should give the series to the only director with the balls to follow up Bay's balls: Brett Ratner. He'll sex up those robots and show Bay how to do a crappy version of Bay like no one else.
 
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I'm not reading 6 pages, but I can say I don't find anything compelling about the transformers movies. I can't explain it. I'm gen x. I loved the cartoon. I loved the animated film. But I just didn't care for the movies. I think it's Michael Bay's directing. Anything close to a plot point is buried in glitzy shots. It's like Speilberg in thin imitation. Even when we're just talking there's some distracting wide shot with music and bigness. I don't like the CG effects either. They really look like CG. They don't feel like they are part of the scene, and the transformers are so intricate, I can't tell if I'm looking at his face or ass. Why do they have to be so intricate? I just feel no empathy or connection to the story.
 
Shegokigo

Shegokigo

It's Shia Le'buttefuke.

That and the fact that you can't make out the fights, like at all.

Those two reasons made all 3 god aweful films.
 
P

Philosopher B.

Sam Witwicky is not a very likable protagonist. It sounds like he's a real asshole in this film.
 
Frank

Frank

Well, saw it today. Expected to hate it like I did the second movie (worst dollar for dollar movie ever made) but didn't. Don't get me wrong, it wasn't good. But being a former super Transformers nerd as a kid and younger self I actually kind of dug a few of the inside nods there to old school Transformers. The movie's plot was basically cobbled together from two episodes of the old show, Megatron's Master Plan and The Ultimate Doom. One centered on Megatron's tricking humanity to give the Autobots the boot off of Earth and the other was a plan to bring Cybertron into orbit around Earth. Kinda familiar sounding. Anyways, the movie still centered too much on fucking Shia Laboof, the single most unlikable hero in any movie series ever and his God awful life problems. OH NOOOOOO, I LIVE IN AN AWESOME APARTMENT WITH DUCKMOUTH MCAWESOMEBODY MY LIFE IS SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT.

When Leonard Nimoy turns on the Autobots for no reason, I was kind of bummed he didn't obliterate Frances McDormand in the process. Mouthy bitch kind of deserved it the way she treated them. That actually goes for all of them. Man, the Autobots sure don't seem to mind being treated like fucking children by mouthy government officials.
 
strawman

strawman

Watched it tonight. They vastly improved the fighting scenes. Probably overused the slo-mo, but honestly it was significantly better in this regard than the previous films. Also, they either cut back or didn't use the shakey cam. It wasn't annoying enough to be noticeable if it was there.

The "love interest" and associate plot was worse than horrible tripe. The overall plot involving the robots was actually enjoyable.
 
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Philosopher B.

I'm pretty sure he's got enough money. You'll have to grow boobs and wash his car ...
 
Frank

Frank

Funny thing, they hire Frank Welker to do his Dr. Claw/Soundwave voice, then don't bother to do the synthing necessary to make it Soundwavey.
 
ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

It was definitely too long. Every time I thought it was about to reach the end they would drag it out. The last scene itself was way longer then it needed to be. It was still leaps and bound better then the last one.

Now for my overall issues with it.

The Sentinel Prime face turn was way to earlier and way to abrupt. They should have built it up a lot longer instead of him just all of a sudden "I'm a bad guy now" and killing Ironhide. It was even more confusing since the only interaction we had with him before that was him giving back the autobot matrix to Optimus and then fleeing from decepticons, which made it all the more confusing.

Why, ever since Jazz, can we not show an Autobot die in BATTLE? Ironhide had to get shot in the back, and that random ugly looking "scientist" transformer was executed. They should have saved Ironhide for the end and had him go out a hero, but no... I guess we can't let it look like he can be defeated without trickery. Even Optimus in the second movie was stabbed in the back.

Also, I thought I read somewhere that Megatron was going to take a backseat and Shockwave was going to be the main villain of this one. I guess they were lying, because all Shockwave did was have a cameo at the beginning and then vanished till the end when he showed up just in time to look around evily at people before the humans and Optimus smash his face off. Don't even get me started on Soundwave, he actually seemed to have more point as the satellite in the second film.

Lastly, Starscream getting killed by Sam is fucking BULLSHIT.

In the end, it's still a fun movie to watch. Like I said before it gave me an excuse to try out the new Flix Brewhouse. If you live in the Austin or Round Rock area I recommend at least giving the place a try, the food was really tasty, the chairs a lot more comfortable then I am used to, and a pretty neat atmosphere (and a really big bar). Tonight they were pretty empty, as they still need to get the word out that they are open now. Figured I would give them a shout out. I would like to see them succeed.
 
Espy

Espy

But did the chairs jiggle? Cuz buddy? You can keep your beer and your food and your comfort, I just want jiggle.
 
Null

Null

I had no expectations going in - I thought Transformers 2 sucked but liked the first one - and really enjoyed this one. Yeah, it's got problems. Probably big ones. But while the movie was playing, I didn't notice or care. I had a great time watching it. Is it a great movie? Fuck no. But I thought it was awesome, would love to see it again, and can't wait to get it on DVD.
 
Adam

Adam

I didn't enjoy it. Michael Bay has to ramp up everything TO THE EXTREME and it just begins to grate on me after a while.

The Director of Intelligence has to be a bitch, but not just a regular bitch, a BITCH TO THE EXTREME!
Gfs boss has to be a really nice guy TO THE EXTREME.
Sam's boss has to be a wacko TO THE EXTREME.
Sam and gf have to have a relationship that goes up and down TO THE EXTREME.

When minor character moments have to be TO THE EXTREME, the giant explosions kind of lose their impact. I think I'm getting old :(
 
strawman

strawman

It's an easy way to make audiences feel they "know" the character without spending all that time on messy, expensive character development. Time which could be used for MORE ROBOT FIGHTS AND EXPLOSIONS.

Take the first movie - within the first few minutes you know that sam is a fool/nerd who's low on cash, wants a car, and his teacher is the "bored/cynical" variety. Bam. Now let's move into what happens when you throw these idiots in a mixer with an old alien machine war that somehow was moved to Earth.

It's far, far from good film, but you oughtn't be going to these with the expectation of good character development.

The human characters are little more than set dressing.
 
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Adammon said:
I didn't enjoy it. Michael Bay has to ramp up everything TO THE EXTREME and it just begins to grate on me after a while.

The Director of Intelligence has to be a bitch, but not just a regular bitch, a BITCH TO THE EXTREME!
Gfs boss has to be a really nice guy TO THE EXTREME.
Sam's boss has to be a wacko TO THE EXTREME.
Sam and gf have to have a relationship that goes up and down TO THE EXTREME.

When minor character moments have to be TO THE EXTREME, the giant explosions kind of lose their impact. I think I'm getting old :(
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Be glad he cut out the bathroom scenes.
 
Adam

Adam

stienman said:
It's an easy way to make audiences feel they "know" the character without spending all that time on messy, expensive character development. Time which could be used for MORE ROBOT FIGHTS AND EXPLOSIONS.

Take the first movie - within the first few minutes you know that sam is a fool/nerd who's low on cash, wants a car, and his teacher is the "bored/cynical" variety. Bam. Now let's move into what happens when you throw these idiots in a mixer with an old alien machine war that somehow was moved to Earth.

It's far, far from good film, but you oughtn't be going to these with the expectation of good character development.

The human characters are little more than set dressing.
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Which is fair enough, but my problem isn't the character development, it's the method of character development TO THE EXTREME. That's not developing characters, it's developing caricatures. Because honestly, I don't think Michael Bay understands how to develop characters.

If Michael Bay directed Titanic, Rose would have been a down and out stripper and Jack would have been a card-shark secret billionaire who threw together an electric hot air balloon seconds before the Titanic jumped over the iceberg in a pyrotechnic show. And parts of the ship would have been attached to the Hot Air balloon and Jack would have been trapped between holding onto the balloon with one hand and holding onto the ship with the other. And then he would have would let go and crashed into the ocean with a huge explosion.

If Michael Bay directed The Wizard of Oz, the Cowardly Lion would have been a ferocious man-eating were-tiger played by Common, the Tin Man would have been a 30 ft tall CGI construct voiced by Keith David and the Scarecrow would have been Nicholas Cage in full out wacko mode wearing no makeup. Dorothy would have been a down and out stripper played by Megan Fox, er, Rosie Huntington-Whiteley. In the end, throwing water on the Wicked Witch would have caused a huge fireball that incinerated most of Oz.

If Michael Bay directed Aliens, we wouldn't have seen a human until 45 minutes into the movie.
 
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