[TV] The Doctor Who Thread
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Night Terrors
I've gotta admit, I wasn't feeling this episode at first. I think they spent too much time figuring out what the mystery was and not enough time inside the other "world". But once it hit its stride when everyone was in there? Boom, I was digging it.
An interesting choice of words at the end, though:
"All back together, now. In the flesh."
Starting to think someone's theory about which Doctor dies will be right.
I've gotta admit, I wasn't feeling this episode at first. I think they spent too much time figuring out what the mystery was and not enough time inside the other "world". But once it hit its stride when everyone was in there? Boom, I was digging it.
An interesting choice of words at the end, though:
"All back together, now. In the flesh."
Starting to think someone's theory about which Doctor dies will be right.
Green_Lantern
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This episode was supposed to be the fourth, but was switched with the Curse of the Black Spot.
*nods* Yeah, I read about that sometime after posting about this episode. I think in retrospect, they should have kept the episode's original placement.
Green_Lantern
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Either way, I felt that this episode was very and not scary at all. Major let down.
But at least next week we get not only one, but two amy's and one has a Katanna!
But at least next week we get not only one, but two amy's and one has a Katanna!
The Girl Who Waited
Damn good episode. I'd even put that up there with the Neil Gaiman episode.
Damn good episode. I'd even put that up there with the Neil Gaiman episode.
Green_Lantern
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Blasphemy! It was good, but not that much.
I still "WHAT THE HELL DOCTOR?!" over it, I hope there were consquences to this.
Can't believe the season is almost over =|
Rule #1: The Doctor Lies. The Doctor promised Rory and Amy they would save her. To do so, they needed Old-Amy's help. Old-Amy never would've helped them if the Doctor had said from the start ''sorry, no can do''. Yes, he was a bastard, and Rory was right on the dot when he said ''You're turning me into you!'' but that was the Doctor's burden to bear.
This was an excellent episode and showed exactly how time-travel can have disastrous consequences if you don't ''check a history book'' like Rory suggested.
figmentPez
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I really enjoyed the episode, and I thought it really showed that Karen Gillan has some still mostly-untapped acting talent.
This is a guy who genocided his own species for the greater good. I don't think that lying to one old woman who will simply never have existed is really that shocking a turn from him.
Also, the only reason that Rory has a problem is because he knew this one. The Doctor flits about time and space making minor alterations to history, sometimes to teach a sad child lessons about Christmas cheer, all the time. How many people have simply winked out of existence because a man in a bow tie distracted their grandmother from noticing grandad?
Yeah, as soon as The Doctor paused and said "Yes, yes, it'll work," I turned to my friend and said "Rule #1: The Doctor lies."
Also, I didn't say it was equally as good as the Gaiman episode, but I'd say it deserves to be up there in terms of damn good, memorable episodes.
BananaHands
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I honestly get more and more impressed with Rory with each episode.
Also, when Amy was yelling at him for making her wait for them, why didn't he just go "Bitch, I waited 2000 years. You'll be fine."
Also, when Amy was yelling at him for making her wait for them, why didn't he just go "Bitch, I waited 2000 years. You'll be fine."
Because Rory chose to wait 2000 years. Amy was caught in a killer hospital with no way out of her own.
Also, Rory was a temporary Auton without need to eat or sleep protecting a loved one on his generally safe home planet. Amy was a completely mortal human trapped alone in an alien hospital surrounded by killer robots waiting for a rescue that never came. Circumstances are a bit too different to compare.
Killer robots yes, but just to nitpick, she didn't have to eat or sleep either.
it's all kinda wibbly wobbly
figmentPez
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I didn't care for this episode. The villain's mechanism seemed way too contrived and didn't feel connected to anything. The characters were cardboard cutouts who weren't likeable even when they were supposed to be. It just felt like awkward setup for future episodes.
The God Complex
Yeah, I have to agree, Pezster. It wasn't fantastic. Though I did like the Muslim woman and the alien from the planet that surrenders the most. That was a fun running gag.
Overall, I'd say this one sits alongside the pirate episode as the worst of the season. Still entertaining, but not as good as the others. As I always say, even a bad episode of Doctor Who is still an enjoyable piece of television.
Yeah, I have to agree, Pezster. It wasn't fantastic. Though I did like the Muslim woman and the alien from the planet that surrenders the most. That was a fun running gag.
Overall, I'd say this one sits alongside the pirate episode as the worst of the season. Still entertaining, but not as good as the others. As I always say, even a bad episode of Doctor Who is still an enjoyable piece of television.
figmentPez
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I did like the gag about what the Doctor has a doctorate in.
BananaHands
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"Don't wave to the clown."
Green_Lantern
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So no one watched "Closing Time"??
BananaHands
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I just wish Craig Owens and Rory could accompany the doctor.
Closing Time
It was quite good, with a lot of great chemistry between The Doctor and whatshisname. I particuarly liked the running gag with The Doctor being able to speak baby. The Cybermen were kinda ho-hum, but it was nice to see them return. And looks like we're going a full season without a single episode dedicated to Daleks. Looks like they'll make an appearance next week, but they won't be the focus (much like last season's finale).
Still, I don't know. After all the build up for this season, I find myself not entirely excited for next week. I'm sure it'll be good, but River Song's timeline is getting a little confusing. We had such a great opener for the season (the 2-parter with The Silents) that I just don't know if all the build-up is going to be worth it.
It was quite good, with a lot of great chemistry between The Doctor and whatshisname. I particuarly liked the running gag with The Doctor being able to speak baby. The Cybermen were kinda ho-hum, but it was nice to see them return. And looks like we're going a full season without a single episode dedicated to Daleks. Looks like they'll make an appearance next week, but they won't be the focus (much like last season's finale).
Still, I don't know. After all the build up for this season, I find myself not entirely excited for next week. I'm sure it'll be good, but River Song's timeline is getting a little confusing. We had such a great opener for the season (the 2-parter with The Silents) that I just don't know if all the build-up is going to be worth it.
BananaHands
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I feel like they wrote themselves into a corner with River Song, which is upsetting. She could have been a great character, but they kind of rushed her story so they could resolve it by the end of this season.
They had a girl with history with the doctor, who could change her appearance... she could have been stretched out much longer.
They had a girl with history with the doctor, who could change her appearance... she could have been stretched out much longer.
It certainly feels like there have been missed opportunities. For what is supposed to be an epic story, the bits we get to see of it have been compartmentalized and compressed. The baby is kidnapped for basically an episode. River is trying to kill the Doctor for basically an episode. Even Amy's kidnapping effectively only lasted one episode.
You hit it exactly, Mike. I was trying to put it into words what was bugging me and that's it, exactly. Everything's been compressed this season and for all the set up they're creating, the payoffs are resolved a little too quickly. Let's Kill Hitler resolved River as a weapon (temporarily), her beginning and tying up a lot about her, actually....along with her time as a baby and growing up. Things were resolved far too quickly between the two episodes and then it was right back to adventuring, business as usual.
That said, I still have some faith in Moffat in being able to deliver a solid finale. Final judgement remains until next week.
That said, I still have some faith in Moffat in being able to deliver a solid finale. Final judgement remains until next week.
io9 has a spoiler free review up. It suggests the last episode is strong but not perfect.
figmentPez
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BananaHands
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It's obvious how the Silence will fall...
Peasants.
BananaHands
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So... think Kovarian is The Rani?
The running theory (from last season, too) is that it's an old Who villain named Omega.