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Nov 28, 2010#1

ThatNickGuy

*screeeech!* Sorry, sorry. Dropped it.

Hellooooo Halforums! Who takes the Doctor Who thread, takes the forum! But...bad news everyone!

'Cause guess who?! HA!

You lot, you're all whizzing about, it's all really very distracting. Could you all just stand still a moment because I AM TALKING!!

Now, the question of the hour is, who's got a trailer for the upcoming Doctor Who Christmas Special? Answer: I do. Next question: who's going to watch the hell out of it on Christmas Day? Come oooon! Look at me! Christmas breakfast finished, no presents left to open, new toys done playing with...oh and something else. I don't have anything! else! to! do! (except maybe go to the gym right now).

So! If you're sitting there in your silly little office chair, with all your silly little porn, if you've got any plans on NOT watching this on Christmas Day, just remember who's standing in your way! Remember every damn pun I've ever told! And then! Aaaaand then! Do the smart thing...

Let somebody else try watching it before you.

Nov 28, 2010#2

HCGLNS

Good luck with that.

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This is where you explain how you are going to watch it the day before it premiers in Canada.

Nov 28, 2010#3

ThatNickGuy

The same way I watch all Doctor Who.

Nov 28, 2010#4

HCGLNS

And here I thought you somehow got a trip to England and were secretly revealing it.

<reports Nick as an illegal down loader to Dean Wormer>

Nov 28, 2010#5

DarkAudit

Want.

Nov 29, 2010#6

Ravenpoe

I'm so glad this is airing on bbc america. For once, I get to watch it without piracy.

Dec 25, 2010#7

twitchmoss

sweet. i'm the first person to comment on it.

I really liked this ep. the end was a little OTT with the singing, but overall it was a pretty awesome episode.

also?

FLYING SHARK. THE DOCTOR RIDES A FLYING SHARK.

. once thats been done theres no way i can hate this episode. gambon was awesome, and the story was a really clever variation on a christmas carol. and i love the way moffat writes dialogue, especially with matt smith.

"what kind of tie is that?" "a cool one"

highlights of the ep?

FLYING SHARK.

'we really need to go. i've just accidentally gotten engaged to marilyn monroe. shes booking a chapel

were you in the honeymoon suite? why are you dressed like that?

theres a shark in your bedroom

also, THAT TRAILER. god damnit i want season 6 now.

nazis! roswell greys! river song! ood! and he wears a stetson now. stetsons are cool.

Dec 25, 2010#8

ThatNickGuy

Awesome episode. So very Christmasy from beginning to end. Smith is really winning me over more and more as I watch him. For me, he's surpassed Tennant.

And oh yes, that preview was also awesome. Monsters are real, indeed. Let's bring on the Neil Gaimen episode and, of course, a whole lotta explainin' about River Song.

Dec 26, 2010#9

Rubicon

Good episode, nice to finally have a christmas episode that didn't involve robots in some fashion.

The series 6 promo looked fantastic! Moar River Song, such a great character. Ood are always nice to see.

Dec 26, 2010#10

Hailey Knight

Nick is hyper.

Dec 26, 2010#11

ThatNickGuy

I...what?

Dec 26, 2010#12

figmentPez

I actually got most of my family to sit down and watch this with me, and they liked it a lot. I doubt my mom and sister would want to watch any of the more horror oriented episodes, they're very sensitive to stuff like that. So I don't think I've made Who fans of them, but it was a nice family moment for Christmas.

Dec 26, 2010#13

ThatNickGuy

Heh. I had that a few years ago with my aunt and cousin. We all had to sleep in the living room and I was anxious to see the episode (The Next Doctor, I believe). They were okay with it and wound up enjoying it a lot.

If I wasn't worried my niece would be scared by the angels, I'd get her watching it, too.

Dec 27, 2010#14

Covar

What a great Christmas episode. The Doctor Who at the Proms was great as well,

"Matt Smith, what a dull name"

It was nice to see actual snow in the Christmas special.

Dec 27, 2010#15

Green_Lantern

That episode was awesome and perfect Christmas episode with a touching, sad and still romantic story, but above all, this is episode was about something that is at the true heart of christmas:

Flying Sharks!

Also, I don't think that Santa Claus, Einstein, Sinatra and the doctor ever actually met, or otherwise the concentrated awesome would destroy the universe.

Dec 28, 2010#16

North_Ranger

*watches the Season 6 trailer*

*squees with glee*

*has a sad because the numbnuts at Finnish telly stations aren't going to show it anyway - or they'll dump it on some pay-per-view channel*

Dec 29, 2010#17

Green_Lantern

North_Ranger said:
*watches the Season 6 trailer*

*squees with glee*

*has a sad because the numbnuts at Finnish telly stations aren't going to show it anyway - or they'll dump it on some pay-per-view channel*

*hugs North Ranger*
I know your pain.

Jan 5, 2011#18

figmentPez

Well, we now know why the TARDIS exploded at the end of last season.
The Doctor is going to marry the Doctor's daughter.

David Tennant is engaged to marry Georgia Moffett (who is the real life daughter of the 5th Doctor Peter Davidson, and also played Tennant's "daughter" in an episode of the show). :confused:

Mar 12, 2011#19

ThatNickGuy

Well, I'll just leave this here.

Mar 12, 2011#20

Covar

There's only one smiley that can properly do justice to this wonderful news: :hide:

Mar 22, 2011#21

HCGLNS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=51JtuEa_OPc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RkmiefoRcfU

No pond don't put some trousers on, don't!

Mar 22, 2011#22

filmfanatic

Oh, to be Rory...

Mar 23, 2011#23

Ravenpoe

I'm certainly not going to be looking for some rule 34 pond on pond action.

Not at all >.>

Mar 25, 2011#24

HCGLNS

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/dw/videos/p00fxf06

Nixon! :aaah:

Mar 28, 2011#25

Green_Lantern

Six years of awesomeness

Apr 19, 2011#26

evilmike

Rest In Peace, Sarah Jane Smith

Elisabeth Sladen died this morning of cancer.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-13137674

Apr 19, 2011#27

ThatNickGuy

I was just coming on to post that very news. So sad. I loved her character/acting.

Apr 19, 2011#28

SpecialKO

I just heard. A terrible shame.

And still pretty young.

Apr 19, 2011#29

twitchmoss

just found out a few minutes ago.

Apr 19, 2011#30

DarkAudit

Apr 19, 2011#31

evilmike

Apr 20, 2011#32

@Li3n

Came here after seeing it on the BBC feed just to say how much it sucks... DAMN YOU TOM BRAZELTON.

Apr 21, 2011#33

Green_Lantern

I never got the chance of meeting her.

Apr 23, 2011#34

twitchmoss

so. tonights ep.

holy shit. that was one hell of a season opener. i mean... DAMN.

so bloody much to go over.

future doctor. shot dead. regenerates. shot dead AGAIN. mission from future!doctor to everyone else, including present!doctor.
richard nixon!
mark sheppard!
fake tardis again! its the fake tardis from the room upstairs!
amy preggers!
THOSE FUCKING ALIE- *zzt*
sorry, i was going to mention something. i know it was important. i can't remember what it was.

*has seizure*

so uh... yeah. remember how previous episode openers were pretty light-hearted affairs? running around in hospitals, running around in hospitals on the moon etc etc... yeah. thats not happening this time

EDIT: the opening memoriam made me sad all over again

RIP lis.

Apr 23, 2011#35

SpecialKO

It is moments like now that I curse DirecTV and their not having BBCA in HD.

Apr 24, 2011#36

ThatNickGuy

Holy crap, that premiere was flipping awesome.

That said, how many of you folk figure that...

The kid in the space suit was a very young River Song? Maybe not, though, since The Doctor doesn't know EVERYTHING about River Song yet.

Also, did you anyone else notice the end credits that credited "The Silent"?

Apr 24, 2011#37

SpecialKO

re: Dr. Song, I thought so as well. Ballsy move, killing him for real in the premiere. Looking forward to this season very much!

Apr 24, 2011#38

ThatNickGuy

This about sums up my feelings on the latest episode:

Apr 25, 2011#39

evilmike

The BBC tribute to Elisabeth Sladen

Apr 26, 2011#40

Thread Necromancer

I only have one problem with being a Doctor Who fan and that's waiting a week for the next episode.

... well, that and the end of the season....

Apr 26, 2011#41

Green_Lantern

for some reason, I wasn't thrilled with this episode, but it was... good.

Apr 30, 2011#42

@Li3n

She's a time lord!? WTH?

Or is that supposed to be some sort of side effect of the TARDIS?

Apr 30, 2011#43

Covar

The Rani maybe? Or better yet, Romana.

May 1, 2011#44

ThatNickGuy

Guessing it's a side effect from the TARDIS, like Amy said (a Time Head!).

Me and Nourah flippin' loved this episode. So much nerding out. And The Silents were really creepy, especially in the X-Filesy haunted house. And so much frigging wibbly wobbly.

May 1, 2011#45

Green_Lantern

Reactions: Interesting, creepy and WTFuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu......

May 2, 2011#46

@Li3n

Covar said:
The Rani maybe? Or better yet, Romana.

If they really want to surprise us then Susan (of course the actress is still alive, so i'd actually prefer an episode with her with a regen at the end).

May 4, 2011#47

HCGLNS

http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/gutcheck/2011/04/doctor_who_desserts_cakes_cook.php

Well ok, its just some really awesome baking, but they could be Amy eating cakes.

May 7, 2011#48

figmentPez

I enjoyed the latest episode, it was a lot of fun, but the explanation at the end had me feeling like something like this had happened before:

A spaceship's medical systems run amok and coming across as some sort of freaky haunting? Didn't that happen already in "The Empty Child" / "The Doctor Dances"?

May 8, 2011#49

Norris

My sister and I are loving the new season.

Does anyone else want to see that pirate crew come back some time? I mean, it is a crew of old English pirates flying about space in an extra-dimensional starship. That's too bad ass to leave hanging.

May 10, 2011#50

Green_Lantern

The woman with the eyepatch...

...I don't I just really like it.

May 11, 2011#51

Covar

Ok are they cutting the version on BBC America? Because a crewmember just disappeared from the powder room they were in. It really seems like to big of a mistake for the show.

May 14, 2011#52

twitchmoss

that right there? that was awesome.

its like they gave gaiman permission to fit whatever insane fanfic ideas he had in his brain on paper. and it was awesome.

goodbye squash court seven!

more thoughts when i re-watch it

May 14, 2011#53

Ravenpoe

That was fucking AWESOME.

AAAAWWWWEEEESOOOOMMEEEEE

May 14, 2011#54

figmentPez

Yes, an amazing episode.

Too bad we'll never get a scene in the Tardis swimming pool, now.

May 15, 2011#55

ThatNickGuy

Favourite. Episode. EVER.

So many frigging one-liners.
Added at: 11:27

twitchmoss said:
that right there? that was awesome.
its like they gave gaiman permission to fit whatever insane fanfic ideas he had in his brain on paper. and it was awesome.

Fun fact: this episode was originally going to be in last season. But it was deemed, according to Gaiman, "a very expensive episode".

May 15, 2011#56

Ravenpoe

ThatNickGuy said:
Favourite. Episode. EVER.

So many frigging one-liners.
Added at: 11:27

Fun fact: this episode was originally going to be in last season. But it was deemed, according to Gaiman, "a very expensive episode".

This episode is tied as my favorite episode, right next to Don't Blink.

I feel like Gaiman not only created a wonderful doctor who episode, but he also managed to expand the whoniverse. We now know what happened to any outlying time lords, as well as have an idea that things may exist outside the universe.

May 15, 2011#57

figmentPez

My current theory regarding the events at the end of "Day of the Moon"

Right now I'm thinking that the little girl wasn't a Time Lord, but a TARDIS. The energy wasn't a regeneration, but Tardis energy.

May 15, 2011#58

Green_Lantern

My great lord Neil Gaiman did it again.

*Thinks in the Tardis-woman vanishing*

*now I have something in my eye*

May 19, 2011#59

evilmike

I think I've found the impossible astronaut.

May 20, 2011#60

ThatNickGuy

May 21, 2011#61

Green_Lantern

Fun fact: each time the Tardis suffered a re-design the sign "Pull to open" got bigger, I guess she was trying to get his attention.

May 22, 2011#62

@Li3n

So, anyone else think the plastic goo is left over from the plastic alien from the 1st episode of the new series?

May 22, 2011#63

Green_Lantern

@Li3n said:
So, anyone else think the plastic goo is left over from the plastic alien from the 1st episode of the new series?

I was thinking the same, but somehow I think they might be a more *new* reference.

Either way, I liked Rory in this episode. It is good see him being more indepedent.

May 22, 2011#64

figmentPez

Why is the next episode going to be delayed in the US? I thought we were supposed to be getting this season/series on the same day as the UK.

May 22, 2011#65

ThatNickGuy

Kind of a so-so episode. Nothing really BAD about it. It was just okay. Hard to follow up Gaiman's episode, though.

And yeah, as soon as they introduced The Skin, I immediately thought the Nestene Consciousness, as well. That threat's actually been around longer than that first episode in Eccelston's run.

May 22, 2011#66

evilmike

@lien: Interesting idea. That would also give Rory a unique perspective on them.

GL: Rory has pretty much become the anti-Mickey.

fig: It's because of Memorial Day.

May 22, 2011#67

Green_Lantern

evilmike said:
GL: Rory has pretty much become the anti-Mickey.

I wouldn't say "anti-Mickey" but only because Mickey was that bad, still he is going to all kinds of awesome.

May 22, 2011#68

figmentPez

I'm glad that Amy doesn't seem to be the focus as much this season. As much as I love redheads, and Karen Gillan in particular, I think that unbalanced the show a bit previously.

May 23, 2011#69

ThatNickGuy

Am I the only one who thinks the actor playing Rory is like the most unobvious MVP of the show? Just seems like he's really been fantastic this season. Which is funny, since in the previous season, I thought he was dull as all hell and really only defined via Amy.

May 23, 2011#70

figmentPez

ThatNickGuy said:
Am I the only one who thinks the actor playing Rory is like the most unobvious MVP of the show? Just seems like he's really been fantastic this season. Which is funny, since in the previous season, I thought he was dull as all hell and really only defined via Amy.

I agree, he's quite surprising. Last season he was almost bland, yet I still liked him for some reason. I think the actor made him likeable, despite the role being written as just a prop for Amy to interact with. Another actor and I could easily see my reaction being "why is Amy with this cardboard cutout?" but this season I think I'm seeing why I liked Rory anyway.

May 24, 2011#71

Covar

It's the waiting 2000 years for her.

I love that there's no love triangle. He's insecure, but it's all in his head.

May 24, 2011#72

Ravenpoe

Covar said:
It's the waiting 2000 years for her.

I love that there's no love triangle. He's insecure, but it's all in his head.

Or is there?

Amy does seem to be quantum pregnant with a timelord baby

May 24, 2011#73

ThatNickGuy

Who's to say it's a timelord baby? Someone'd mentioned in the first two episodes this season of...side effects from travelling in the TARDIS all this time. Her and Rory've been gettin' busy a lot. But it's been in the TARDIS. Who the hell knows how sex and reproduction works in a time machine that's constantly in flux.

May 24, 2011#74

@Li3n

ThatNickGuy said:
And yeah, as soon as they introduced The Skin, I immediately thought the Nestene Consciousness, as well. That threat's actually been around longer than that first episode in Eccelston's run.

Wouldn't know, i've only been watching from last season actually, and been watching some 1st episodes hre and there from botht he old and new series besides that.

May 24, 2011#75

ThatNickGuy

Ditto. I'm just going by what I've read on the Who wikipedia.

May 24, 2011#76

twitchmoss

Insane speculation time!

we know that river 'killed a good man', and that she's in the stormcage for that reason.initial speculation is that she killed the doctor right?

I'm wondering if it might be rory, for good this time. one of the next episodes is 'a good man goes to war'. rorys been around for over two thousand years, he was there when rome burnt down. he's technically older than the doctor. and he's been showing more compassion than either the doctor or amy in the last episode. Its safe to assume that the Silence aren't done yet, and maybe he plays a much bigger role in taking them down than previously assumed.

May 28, 2011#77

@Li3n

WHAT?! I don't even...

May 29, 2011#78

twitchmoss

@Li3n said:
WHAT?! I don't even...

pretty much this.

of course ,this means we never saw her leave that room in the orphanage in day of the moon, the one with all the silents on the ceiling.
I thought that they'd rescued amy too easily in that first part.

also, for anyone who wants iit... trailer for next week.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/dw/videos/p00h7m4l

holy.shit.

cybermans! silurians! laserswords! spaceships!
is that roman rory i see? my theory is gaining ground! "where.is.my.WIFE."

May 29, 2011#79

Ravenpoe

Does anyone know when the latest episode will air on BBC America? Because there was no new episode last night

May 29, 2011#80

figmentPez

Ravenpoe said:
Does anyone know when the latest episode will air on BBC America? Because there was no new episode last night

Should be next week. The previews siad "in two weeks". I guess they didn't want to show a new episode on Memorial Day weekend.

May 30, 2011#81

ThatNickGuy

Also, seeing The Doctor interact with John Smith was hilarious.

"Yowza!"
"Do we tend to say 'yowza'"?
"Let it go."

NEED. NEXT. EPISODE. NOW.

Someone get on that, will they? There's a good lad.

Jun 4, 2011#82

twitchmoss

HOLY SHIT. more coming when more people have seen the episode.

just one thing.

Doctor who will return in "LETS KILL HITLER!"

Jun 4, 2011#83

@Li3n

Wait, wait, wait... so the good man she kills is... SON OF A...

No one tell Stevie Wonder.

Jun 4, 2011#84

@Li3n

Melody Pond... this is just getting worse and worse...

Jun 5, 2011#85

Thread Necromancer

.....

And we are expected to wait until Autumn?!?!

Jun 5, 2011#86

ThatNickGuy

Kinda saw that coming a mile away, honestly.

Though, two things come to mind with "Let's Kill Hitler":
1) Wonder if this is the first time he meets Churchill.

2) We had a scene in the first episode this season where The Doctor is digging through WW2 tunnels and pops up into Hitler's spot. Wonder if we'll get a repeat of that? In fact, I bet all the little adventures The Doctor had will be next season's episodes. Right up to...oh...oh dear.

Jun 5, 2011#87

Green_Lantern

Predictable.

YET AWESOME xD

Jun 6, 2011#88

DarkAudit

Would you like me to repeat the question?

Jun 11, 2011#89

HCGLNS

Just watched the cliff hanger!

Jun 28, 2011#90

HCGLNS

And now Nick, time for you to die...

Amy Pond was discovered completely naked in the hallway of her posh NYC hotel randomly knocking on doors asking for help to try to find her room.

Jul 25, 2011#91

twitchmoss

new trailer new trailer new trailer new trailer!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/dw/videos/p00jb05r

"i think you just saved my life"

:O

Jul 25, 2011#92

@Li3n

So, the dead doctor is Flesh or what?

Jul 25, 2011#93

Green_Lantern

So, in the trailer it shows river with the cyber eyepatch, I guess this means that she can't be the eyepatch lady.

Aug 15, 2011#94

ThatNickGuy

*checks his watch* Guess what time it'll be tonight, folks?

That's right. It's time to KILL HILTER!

Aug 15, 2011#95

Covar

I hope you mean the prequel. Otherwise BBC America can continue to go fuck itself as they're not showing it until the 27th.

Aug 15, 2011#96

ThatNickGuy

Argh. Yeah, you're right. I read a Bleeding Cool article way, WAY too fast earlier today.

Still, we got us a rezzed Doctor Who thread!

Fantastic vs. Alons-y vs. Geronimo. Discuss.

Aug 27, 2011#97

ThatNickGuy

All right, let's try this again:

Today, it's time to KILL HITLER!

Aug 27, 2011#98

Covar

*prays he doesn't lose power tonight.

Aug 27, 2011#99

ThatNickGuy

Right, SPOILERS, of course. Won't hide-text 'em since you'd know better.

Holy bait-and-switch, Batman! When Mels first showed up, right before she climbed out of the car, I jokingly said "Hello, sweetie." Looks like that instinct was right. The whole "Kill Hitler" thing didn't last very long and...I'm oddly very okay with that.

I have to admit, I didn't see River being a villain (if only temporarily). Really interesting ways they handled her regeneration, though, like getting shot by Nazis. Also, I flipping loved the Shrinky Justice people. Not their real name, yeah, but still awesome.

If I had one complaint, it was how the answers we got were sort of...just given. Like the Silence. So I'm confused, now. Is The Silence still those freaky grey alien guys or is it the organization we saw in the last episode?

But yeah, overall? Loved it. Can't wait for next week. GERONIMO!

PS: What'd everyone think of the trenchcoat The Doctor wore? I wasn't entirely crazy about it, but I dug it.

Aug 27, 2011#100

figmentPez

I liked Rory, he kicked much ass. Karen Gillan is always fun to look at. Other than that... I was only having fun when I turned off my brain. I don't like where this episode took the story.

Aug 27, 2011#101

ThatNickGuy

In what sense? For me, the more I think about it, the less I like how quickly they wrapped up River's story.

Aug 27, 2011#102

figmentPez

Mel was a lame and rushed ret-con. River continues being a Mary Sue (doing awesome things does not make you awesome.) There was no suspense about the Doctor's death. Actually, the whole episode felt very heavy-handed in spelling everything out, to the point that it felt like I was being beaten over the head instead of enticed to figure out what was going on.

Aug 28, 2011#103

Wahad

This episode was amazing for two things:

1) Rory punching Hitler
2) Rory putting Hitler in the cupboard.

Here, have a .gif:

Aug 28, 2011#104

@Li3n

figmentPez said:
Mel was a lame and rushed ret-con.

Well imo that kinda thing works just fine in a show about time travel...and the scene with Amy thinking Rory is gay was priceless...

The rest of the episode did feel too much like an info dump though...

Sep 1, 2011#105

evilmike

Since this thread has somehow ended up being about Doctor Who, I'll leave this here:

Sep 1, 2011#106

Covar

~~I don't see Eccleston.~~
Ah, Rizzo. Typical, I spot him right after I click submit.

Sep 3, 2011#107

ThatNickGuy

Night Terrors

I've gotta admit, I wasn't feeling this episode at first. I think they spent too much time figuring out what the mystery was and not enough time inside the other "world". But once it hit its stride when everyone was in there? Boom, I was digging it.

An interesting choice of words at the end, though:

"All back together, now. In the flesh."

Starting to think someone's theory about which Doctor dies will be right.

Sep 3, 2011#108

klew

I recall reading someone speculate that the Ganger Doctor was the one who was shot in Utah, but he already dissolved at the end of The Almost People.

Sep 4, 2011#109

Green_Lantern

ThatNickGuy said:
Night Terrors

I've gotta admit, I wasn't feeling this episode at first. I think they spent too much time figuring out what the mystery was and not enough time inside the other "world". But once it hit its stride when everyone was in there? Boom, I was digging it.

An interesting choice of words at the end, though:

"All back together, now. In the flesh."

Starting to think someone's theory about which Doctor dies will be right.

This episode was supposed to be the fourth, but was switched with the Curse of the Black Spot.

Sep 4, 2011#110

ThatNickGuy

*nods* Yeah, I read about that sometime after posting about this episode. I think in retrospect, they should have kept the episode's original placement.

Sep 4, 2011#111

Green_Lantern

Either way, I felt that this episode was very and not scary at all. Major let down.

But at least next week we get not only one, but two amy's and one has a Katanna!

Sep 10, 2011#112

ThatNickGuy

The Girl Who Waited

Damn good episode. I'd even put that up there with the Neil Gaiman episode.

Sep 11, 2011#113

Green_Lantern

ThatNickGuy said:
The Girl Who Waited

Damn good episode. I'd even put that up there with the Neil Gaiman episode.

Blasphemy! It was good, but not that much.

I still "WHAT THE HELL DOCTOR?!" over it, I hope there were consquences to this.

Can't believe the season is almost over =|

Sep 12, 2011#114

Wahad

Green_Lantern said:
Blasphemy! It was good, but not that much.

I still "WHAT THE HELL DOCTOR?!" over it, I hope there were consquences to this.

Can't believe the season is almost over =|

Rule #1: The Doctor Lies. The Doctor promised Rory and Amy they would save her. To do so, they needed Old-Amy's help. Old-Amy never would've helped them if the Doctor had said from the start ''sorry, no can do''. Yes, he was a bastard, and Rory was right on the dot when he said ''You're turning me into you!'' but that was the Doctor's burden to bear.

This was an excellent episode and showed exactly how time-travel can have disastrous consequences if you don't ''check a history book'' like Rory suggested.

Sep 12, 2011#115

figmentPez

I really enjoyed the episode, and I thought it really showed that Karen Gillan has some still mostly-untapped acting talent.

Sep 13, 2011#116

Norris

Green_Lantern said:
I still "WHAT THE HELL DOCTOR?!" over it, I hope there were consquences to this.

This is a guy who genocided his own species for the greater good. I don't think that lying to one old woman who will simply never have existed is really that shocking a turn from him.

Also, the only reason that Rory has a problem is because he knew this one. The Doctor flits about time and space making minor alterations to history, sometimes to teach a sad child lessons about Christmas cheer, all the time. How many people have simply winked out of existence because a man in a bow tie distracted their grandmother from noticing grandad?

Sep 13, 2011#117

ThatNickGuy

Green_Lantern said:
Blasphemy! It was good, but not that much.

I still "WHAT THE HELL DOCTOR?!" over it, I hope there were consquences to this.

Can't believe the season is almost over =|

Yeah, as soon as The Doctor paused and said "Yes, yes, it'll work," I turned to my friend and said "Rule #1: The Doctor lies."

Also, I didn't say it was equally as good as the Gaiman episode, but I'd say it deserves to be up there in terms of damn good, memorable episodes.

Sep 15, 2011#118

BananaHands

I honestly get more and more impressed with Rory with each episode.

Also, when Amy was yelling at him for making her wait for them, why didn't he just go "Bitch, I waited 2000 years. You'll be fine."

Sep 15, 2011#119

Wahad

BananaHands said:
I honestly get more and more impressed with Rory with each episode.

Also, when Amy was yelling at him for making her wait for them, why didn't he just go "Bitch, I waited 2000 years. You'll be fine."

Because Rory chose to wait 2000 years. Amy was caught in a killer hospital with no way out of her own.

Sep 15, 2011#120

Norris

Also, Rory was a temporary Auton without need to eat or sleep protecting a loved one on his generally safe home planet. Amy was a completely mortal human trapped alone in an alien hospital surrounded by killer robots waiting for a rescue that never came. Circumstances are a bit too different to compare.

Sep 15, 2011#121

Ravenpoe

Norris said:
Also, Rory was a temporary Auton without need to eat or sleep protecting a loved one on his generally safe home planet. Amy was a completely mortal human trapped alone in an alien hospital surrounded by killer robots waiting for a rescue that never came. Circumstances are a bit too different to compare.

Killer robots yes, but just to nitpick, she didn't have to eat or sleep either.

Sep 15, 2011#122

Norris

she didn't? Oh right, time vortex thingy. Then how did she age? Huh.

Sep 15, 2011#123

Ravenpoe

Norris said:
she didn't? Oh right, time vortex thingy. Then how did she age? Huh.

it's all kinda wibbly wobbly

Sep 17, 2011#124

figmentPez

I didn't care for this episode. The villain's mechanism seemed way too contrived and didn't feel connected to anything. The characters were cardboard cutouts who weren't likeable even when they were supposed to be. It just felt like awkward setup for future episodes.

Sep 17, 2011#125

ThatNickGuy

The God Complex

Yeah, I have to agree, Pezster. It wasn't fantastic. Though I did like the Muslim woman and the alien from the planet that surrenders the most. That was a fun running gag.

Overall, I'd say this one sits alongside the pirate episode as the worst of the season. Still entertaining, but not as good as the others. As I always say, even a bad episode of Doctor Who is still an enjoyable piece of television.

Sep 17, 2011#126

figmentPez

I did like the gag about what the Doctor has a doctorate in.

Sep 18, 2011#127

BananaHands

"Don't wave to the clown."

Sep 25, 2011#128

Green_Lantern

So no one watched "Closing Time"??

Sep 25, 2011#129

BananaHands

I just wish Craig Owens and Rory could accompany the doctor.

Sep 25, 2011#130

ThatNickGuy

Closing Time

It was quite good, with a lot of great chemistry between The Doctor and whatshisname. I particuarly liked the running gag with The Doctor being able to speak baby. The Cybermen were kinda ho-hum, but it was nice to see them return. And looks like we're going a full season without a single episode dedicated to Daleks. Looks like they'll make an appearance next week, but they won't be the focus (much like last season's finale).

Still, I don't know. After all the build up for this season, I find myself not entirely excited for next week. I'm sure it'll be good, but River Song's timeline is getting a little confusing. We had such a great opener for the season (the 2-parter with The Silents) that I just don't know if all the build-up is going to be worth it.

Sep 25, 2011#131

BananaHands

I feel like they wrote themselves into a corner with River Song, which is upsetting. She could have been a great character, but they kind of rushed her story so they could resolve it by the end of this season.

They had a girl with history with the doctor, who could change her appearance... she could have been stretched out much longer.

Sep 26, 2011#132

evilmike

BananaHands said:
I feel like they wrote themselves into a corner with River Song, which is upsetting. She could have been a great character, but they kind of rushed her story so they could resolve it by the end of this season.

They had a girl with history with the doctor, who could change her appearance... she could have been stretched out much longer.

It certainly feels like there have been missed opportunities. For what is supposed to be an epic story, the bits we get to see of it have been compartmentalized and compressed. The baby is kidnapped for basically an episode. River is trying to kill the Doctor for basically an episode. Even Amy's kidnapping effectively only lasted one episode.

Sep 26, 2011#133

ThatNickGuy

You hit it exactly, Mike. I was trying to put it into words what was bugging me and that's it, exactly. Everything's been compressed this season and for all the set up they're creating, the payoffs are resolved a little too quickly. Let's Kill Hitler resolved River as a weapon (temporarily), her beginning and tying up a lot about her, actually....along with her time as a baby and growing up. Things were resolved far too quickly between the two episodes and then it was right back to adventuring, business as usual.

That said, I still have some faith in Moffat in being able to deliver a solid finale. Final judgement remains until next week.

Sep 26, 2011#134

evilmike

io9 has a spoiler free review up. It suggests the last episode is strong but not perfect.

Sep 28, 2011#135

figmentPez

Awwww

Doctor Who Confidential axed by BBC

I love DWC, it's so much fun.

Sep 29, 2011#136

BananaHands

It's obvious how the Silence will fall...

Sep 29, 2011#137

sixpackshaker

Peasants.

Sep 30, 2011#138

BananaHands

So... think Kovarian is The Rani?

Sep 30, 2011#139

ThatNickGuy

The running theory (from last season, too) is that it's an old Who villain named Omega.

Oct 1, 2011#140

Covar

I don't see how it could be Omega, seeing as how he was a being of pure will at the end. Still, stranger things have happened.

Oct 1, 2011#141

BananaHands

The 'rian' in her name makes me think that Madam Kovarian is some clever anagram for something something Rani. Ah well, only one way to find out...

Oct 1, 2011#142

evilmike

BananaHands said:
The 'rian' in her name makes me think that Madam Kovarian is some clever anagram for something something Rani. Ah well, only one way to find out...

Hrm.

Oct 1, 2011#143

figmentPez

Once again:
Rory is awesome.
Karen Gillan is so much fun to look at.
River Song keeps growing more annoying.

Oct 2, 2011#144

FnordBear

So just watched season finale. No spoilers.
My reaction:

Manly Tears
and
Woo hoo!

Oct 2, 2011#145

ThatNickGuy

I'm away for the weekend (posting this on Mom's computer), so I haven't seen the episode yet. *sob!*

Oct 2, 2011#146

HCGLNS

http://ucsdnews.ucsd.edu/newsrel/soc/2011_08spoilers.asp

As you can see by this link, science has shown that spoilers are a good thing.

Romana coming back with her own version of K-9 was badass! Now having two redheads to look at is amazing!

I did not expect that the Doctor who died at the lake was the Master.

And the guest appearance by Tom Baker in the bar scene was brilliant!

Oct 2, 2011#147

Wahad

HCGLNS said:
Romana coming back with her own version of K-9 was badass! Now having two redheads to look at is amazing.

I dunno man, as nice as she is I thought it was a cop-out. I mean, ''timey-wimey'' notwithstanding, what was she even doing outside the Timelock, without a warp-point star. They neglected to mention that - hell, they didn't even give us a chamelon-circuit-watch explanation. She just....showed up.

Oct 2, 2011#148

HCGLNS

Um hello, she was never in the time war, she was in an alternate dimension. They just Rose Tylered her back in to be a foil for the River/Doctor triangle!

Oct 2, 2011#149

BananaHands

Gah. Rose Tyler... Hate her.

Oct 2, 2011#150

ThatNickGuy

So finally saw the finale and...it was good, but it was something of a disappointment. I can't put my finger on what, but I think it was just that there was a lot of timey-wimey and not a lot of explanation as to why. Why touching River Song would put everything back, etc. And it was a cop out using the micro-assassin dudes, but I guess there had to be some kind of a cop-out.

Plus, I really, really doubt that River whispered to David Tennant "Look in my eye."

Oct 3, 2011#151

Green_Lantern

ThatNickGuy said:
So finally saw the finale and...it was good, but it was something of a disappointment. I can't put my finger on what, but I think it was just that there was a lot of timey-wimey and not a lot of explanation as to why. Why touching River Song would put everything back, etc. And it was a cop out using the micro-assassin dudes, but I guess there had to be some kind of a cop-out.

Plus, I really, really doubt that River whispered to David Tennant "Look in my eye."

River from the Silence in Library was actually Teselecta! It all makes sense!

Oct 3, 2011#152

BananaHands

I just wish they'd bring back Jenny.

I would do things to her that I wouldn't do to a Walia Ibex.

Oct 3, 2011#153

Null

Apparently David Tennant felt the same way, since the Doctor's Daughter there has in fact borne the Tenth Doctor a daughter.

Oct 3, 2011#154

Green_Lantern

BananaHands said:
I just wish they'd bring back Jenny.

I would do things to her that I wouldn't do to a Walia Ibex.

I had this unholy idea for a crossover, where Jenny is regenerated and chamealeon arched... into Brittany from Glee.

Oct 3, 2011#155

Null

I rather liked the finale, personally. Well-acted, a couple good twists that didn't feel contrived, and an ending that made me go "Oh, that's clever" instead "Bullshit!"

Oct 3, 2011#156

BananaHands

Null said:
I rather liked the finale, personally. Well-acted, a couple good twists that didn't feel contrived, and an ending that made me go "Oh, that's clever" instead "Bullshit!"

I agree with you, a lot of people were upset that the Tesselecta(sp?) was a cop-out, but I kind of enjoyed it. The doctor gave 'em a lecture in Let's Kill Hitler, and they kind of redeemed themselves.

Oct 3, 2011#157

evilmike

Doctor, I'm so sorry. We didn't know how to contact you.

Oct 3, 2011#158

Green_Lantern

evilmike said:

I was actually sort of happy that I didn't knew the brigadier because I know it was a major Tear Jerker.

Oct 25, 2011#159

FnordBear

Whoverse news.

Matt Smith is leaving the series at the end of season 7.

Oct 25, 2011#160

sixpackshaker

I just started watching the show this summer....

Oct 25, 2011#161

Green_Lantern

sixpackshaker said:
I just started watching the show this summer....

So it was your fault!

Oct 26, 2011#162

BananaHands

I don't even know if I can handle another Doctor.

Oct 26, 2011#163

FnordBear

Look on the bright side, we get to have internet duels about who would be the best 12th Doctor then we get to nerd rage our disagreement at whoever they do cast. In the end. nerd rage

Oct 26, 2011#164

BananaHands

Wait, didn't he sign a five year contract?

TO THE INTERNET!
Added at: 19:48
Alright, back.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...att-Smith-signs-year-deal-play-Time-Lord.html
Does it mean the show have the option? Or does he have the option?

Oct 27, 2011#165

FnordBear

Well he signed it in '09 and the final season will run in to '13 so it fits.

Nov 10, 2011#166

evilmike

Nov 14, 2011#167

filmfanatic

Looks like they might try making a Doctor Who movie.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=84226

I'm not sure how to feel about this. On one hand, not involving it with the story or the people involved with the series gives me a gut reaction of unpleasantness. On the other hand, a good out-of-continuity single adventure could be a nice way to introduce the more average person to Doctor Who and what it's about.

Nov 14, 2011#168

ThatNickGuy

Well, it can't go any worse than the last movie.

Nov 14, 2011#169

Norris

Setting the movie off in its own little universe gives it good space to grow. People in the comments on the article that bring up Star Trek comparisons seem to forget that the two film series that tied closely to the continuity of the shows (TOS and TNG, respectively) both came after their respective shows had ended their television runs. The new films, while tied to the old series, occupy a continuity all their own.

In short, so long as it doesn't suffer a case of Americanitis, I'm all for a Doctor Who re-imagined film series. Keep the show around doing its thing, make the movie a square one reboot.

Nov 22, 2011#170

ThatNickGuy

Geronimo-ho-ho!

Nov 22, 2011#171

BananaHands

Eeeeeee!

Nov 22, 2011#172

Wahad

W-was that Bill Bailey?

Dec 22, 2011#173

BananaHands

Dec 22, 2011#174

sixpackshaker

I wonder if there was any executive meddling....

"You know that Doctor Who property would make a good First Person Shooter, what with all them Cyber-Men and Daleks to kill..."

Dec 22, 2011#175

ThatNickGuy

From that 40-second trailer that shows no gameplay footage, how did you come to the conclusion that it's an FPS?

Dec 23, 2011#176

BananaHands

My brother mentioned something about it being a MMO. But I have yet to find anything on the internet about it... soo...
Added at: 06:03
Wait, never mind. Worlds in Time is the MMO. This is labeled an 'adventure' game with puzzle solving.

Dec 27, 2011#177

ThatNickGuy

The Doctor, the Widow, and the Wardrobe

Good episode, overall, I'd say. I got a little teary-eyed at the last bit of the episode.

Though, it's funny. I think this episode really convinced me how different Russel T Davies and Steven Moffat. If Davies had written this episode...

he would've just killed off the widow at the end.

Dec 27, 2011#178

Wahad

Little frowny on the Doctor, a 900-somethingsomething year old being ''weak" and an ordinary woman being strong. Did like the mothership pun, though. Also, Bill Bailey was pretty great, and the ending was lovely.

Dec 27, 2011#179

sixpackshaker

Tonight on TCM 12:15 am Central... Daleks: Invasion Earth 2150 with Peter Cushing as the Doctor

edit:
Peter Cushing as Dr. Who

I forgot that was his name at the beginning.

Dec 28, 2011#180

BananaHands

I thought the Christmas Special was okay. Wasn't as good as the year before,... and I feel like he wrote it to defend the whole "Steven Moffat is sexist" argument.

Aliens made of wood... we knew it was going to come to this...

Bad news, Mr_thehun. Season six starts off in the U.S.. Still, I enjoy it.

Jan 19, 2012#181

sixpackshaker

Well not the Doctor, But the Doctor was on a stamp!

Feb 7, 2012#182

ThatNickGuy

Neil Gaiman humbly accepts an award for his Doctor Who episode.

Feb 7, 2012#183

sixpackshaker

literally... :aaah:

Feb 13, 2012#184

evilmike

(From Bleeding Cool) A new comic cross-over from IDW. The story will be called Assimilation and involve both the Borg and the Cybermen.

Feb 13, 2012#185

ThatNickGuy

Your image is broke. I thought I'd posted this, but I guess not. Still, I can't flipping wait.

Feb 13, 2012#186

sixpackshaker

We already had half that scene in the Christmas Carroll special.

Feb 29, 2012#187

figmentPez

I love this photo:

Jammy Dodger

Feb 29, 2012#188

sixpackshaker

It would be better with a side of fish fingers and custard.

Feb 29, 2012#189

ThatNickGuy

And a fez.

Mar 21, 2012#190

klew

New companion announced:

www.bbcamerica.com/anglophenia/2012/03/so-who-is-jenna-louise-coleman-the-new-doctor-who-companion

http://www.bbcamerica.com/anglophenia/2012/03/so-who-is-jenna-louise-coleman-the-new-doctor-who-companion[/spoiler]

Mar 21, 2012#191

BananaHands

Who was she in Captain America? The main girl?

Mar 21, 2012#192

sixpackshaker

BananaHands said:
Who was she in Captain America? The main girl?

Nope, she's in the film. I can't remember the role.

Mar 21, 2012#193

sixpackshaker

Pond is not coming back?

NNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooo!!!!! :Leyla:

Mar 21, 2012#194

Norris

sixpackshaker said:
Pond is not coming back?

NNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooo!!!!!

.....Did you even watch the last season?

Mar 22, 2012#195

Yoshimickster

I'm still working on the first season. The b&w one just to not confuse.

Mar 25, 2012#196

Bowielee

Yoshimickster said:
I'm still working on the first season. The b&w one just to not confuse.

So, you only have about 40 years worth of episodes to get through.

Mar 25, 2012#197

Yoshimickster

Bowielee said:
So, you only have about 40 years worth of episodes to get through.

If I can go through the past ten years of PvP in a day, then Dr. Who should at least take a week! Well...considering I read comics at my own speed and tv shows have set times that's different. As well as internet browsers....WELL! I'll just make the time then.

Mar 26, 2012#198

figmentPez

Spoiler about rumors of the return of an alien enemy and where it's going to be filmed:

Rumors are a weeping angels episode is being filmed in New York.

Mar 26, 2012#199

Bowielee

Well, the bulk of the earlier episodes you can't even watch as copies of them don't exist anymore due to the film containing them being destroyed. You'll only really be able to get the highlights for most of the doctors prior to the modern series.

Mar 26, 2012#200

Bowielee

figmentPez said:
Spoiler about rumors of the return of an alien enemy and where it's going to be filmed:

Rumors are a weeping angels episode is being filmed in New York.

View attachment 5105

I'm actually already tired of them as villains. The original episode that featured them was so moody and high concept that everything with them that has followed kind of fell flat for me.

Mar 26, 2012#201

evilmike

Season 7 Trailer

Mar 26, 2012#202

sixpackshaker

Good, at least one more episode with Pond.

Mar 26, 2012#203

Covar

sixpackshaker said:
Good, at least one more episode with Pond.

5 actually.

Mar 26, 2012#204

figmentPez

I'm looking forward to the episode with Ben Browder.

Mar 26, 2012#205

Wahad

Did I spy the guy who plays Arthur Weasley in that trailer? Also: Stetsons are still cool! :awesome:

Mar 26, 2012#206

Covar

figmentPez said:
I'm looking forward to the episode with Ben Browder.

I didn't even realize it was Ben Browder until you mentioned it. I had to go back and watch again.

Mar 26, 2012#207

figmentPez

Covar said:
I didn't even realize it was Ben Browder until you mentioned it. I had to go back and watch again.

I had no idea he was in the trailer, I just heard the rumors a couple weeks ago and decided to comment now.

May 22, 2012#208

BananaHands

May 31, 2012#209

BananaHands

Jun 1, 2012#210

FnordBear

I always try to have the right tool for the right job.

Jun 6, 2012#211

evilmike

Courtesy of the Collectormania convention in Milton Keynes:

Another 5 Doctors (Q&A Transcript)

Jul 3, 2012#212

FnordBear

Tom Baker returning alongside Matt Smith for the 50th anniversary.

http://entertainment.stv.tv/showbiz/308093-former-time-lord-tom-baker-to-return-to-doctor-who/

Jul 3, 2012#213

ThatNickGuy

JUST Tom Baker? Aw. I was hoping they'd have more. Hell, I was hoping for an Ecceslton/Tenant/Smith team-up.

Ah well. I'll take Tom Baker, too.

Jul 3, 2012#214

BananaHands

Ecceslton and Smith would have been an interesting pairing, that's for sure.[DOUBLEPOST=1341360441][/DOUBLEPOST]

ThatNickGuy said:
JUST Tom Baker? Aw. I was hoping they'd have more. Hell, I was hoping for an Ecceslton/Tenant/Smith team-up.

Ah well. I'll take Tom Baker, too.

Also, I didn't know I disagree'd that. My apologies, guy who is named Nick.

Aug 2, 2012#215

BananaHands

I'll just leave this here.

Aug 2, 2012#216

FnordBear

Why do I suddenly get the feeling this will be a darker season?

Aug 2, 2012#217

Wahad

Dinosaurs, daleks and doctors, oh my!

Aug 2, 2012#218

ThatNickGuy

GERONIMO!!

Aug 2, 2012#219

BananaHands

Aug 2, 2012#220

sixpackshaker

FnordBear said:
Why do I suddenly get the feeling this will be a darker season?

Well... he did get married.

Aug 22, 2012#221

Covar

BBC America Doctor Who premeires Sept 1st

Same day as BBC1 again. So glad this show is no longer on ~~Sci-fi~~Sy-Fy.

Aug 22, 2012#222

sixpackshaker

Oh yeah, and BBC America is Hi-Def this season....

Aug 22, 2012#223

SpecialKO

sixpackshaker said:
Oh yeah, and BBC America is Hi-Def this season....

Just in freakin' time!

I love BBC shows, but the SD version of the channel I got looked so bad on my TV, it was ridiculous.

But watching the Top Gears guys drive to the North Pole in HD?

Aug 22, 2012#224

Covar

I've had BBC America HD for a while now, is this a DirecTV thing?

Aug 22, 2012#225

SpecialKO

Covar said:
I've had BBC America HD for a while now, is this a DirecTV thing?

It is for me, certainly.

Aug 22, 2012#226

Dave

BBC America? Oh yeah! That station I can't get!

Hope they get to Netflix soon.

Aug 22, 2012#227

Norris

Dave said:
BBC America? Oh yeah! That station I can't get!

Hope they get to Netflix soon.

Beeb America isn't on my school's cable plan. So I just buy the show Sunday morning off Amazon Unbox.

Aug 22, 2012#228

Dave

I take that back - they added it to the analog channels but not the HD ones. So I'll be able to watch it!!! Now all I have to do is get caught up on the current shows. I'm on...let's see...episode 176 - 2006 Series 2. I'm a bit behind.

Aug 25, 2012#229

FnordBear

Dave said:
BBC America? Oh yeah! That station I can't get!

Hope they get to Netflix soon.

Um...Doctor Who is already on Netflix...

Aug 25, 2012#230

Norris

FnordBear said:
Um...Doctor Who is already on Netflix...

I think he means the newest episodes.

Aug 25, 2012#231

FnordBear

Norris said:
I think he means the newest episodes.

The most recent season is up and the Xmas special. The stuff that will be airing next weekend obviously isn't.

Sep 1, 2012#232

ThatNickGuy

Hey! Hey, guys! Guys, hey listen!

The newest season of Doctor Who begins...today! First episode is today!

Sep 1, 2012#233

Wahad

ThatNickGuy said:
Hey! Hey, guys! Guys, hey listen!

The newest season of Doctor Who begins...today! First episode is today!

Five hours to go! I'm excited! Do you know who's also excited? This Dalek is!

Sep 1, 2012#234

Hailey Knight

Dammit, I gotta finish season 6.

Sep 1, 2012#235

ThatNickGuy

Quotemander Prime said:
Dammit, I gotta finish season 6.

Do it! Do it right now! Hurry! There's not much time left! You need to finish, now!

Incidentally, the above quote was also said on my prom night.

Sep 1, 2012#236

Hailey Knight

ThatNickGuy said:
Incidentally, the above quote was also said on my prom night.

Sep 1, 2012#237

Wahad

Amazing. This was a right proper season opening.

Saw the twist coming, but goddamn if the sad Dalekvoice wasn't breaking my heart. Keep dreaming, soufflégirl.

Sep 1, 2012#238

twitchmoss

that was pretty awesome.

and the daleks 'trying to get in' suddenly makes things a lot creepier. that was them trying to get inside *her head*. brr.

Sep 1, 2012#239

Wahad

Regarding the new episode...I made this.

Not even sorry.

Sep 1, 2012#240

ThatNickGuy

AWESOME episode and a great way to kick off the season. Thoughts behind the spoiler.

I figured there would be some kind of surprise with Oswin, but given what we'd seen earlier in the episode (and with Amy), I was expecting another converted human. Loved the reveal we got, though, and second twitchmoss thought about the Dalek's trying to get in being extra creepy. I especially loved at the end where the Daleks had forgotten him. Fucking brilliant.

Line of the whole episode? "SUCKERS!"

Hell, I bet the Doctor had it planned all along where the teleport was going. So Rory and Amy were never in any danger if they teleported. They probably know enough Tardis flying to get it home or at least relatively close; or the Tardis could have flown them.

Now it'll be interesting to see if the "Doctor WHO?" thing will be at the end of nearly every episode. From what I've heard, every episode this season will be self-contained and treated like a big-budget movie. But that "Doctor WHO?!" thing is still there, so that will likely be an ongoing theme.

Sep 1, 2012#241

Hailey Knight

For those who don't have TV, how can we watch the new season?

Also, just finished "God Complex" of season 6.

Sep 1, 2012#242

FnordBear

Just finished the episode myself...

Yeah it was good.

Quotemander: Best answer I can give you "Arrr and avast ye scurvy dog!"

A friend and I are now theorizing that the whole "Doctor Who?" and "Silence will Fall" scenario will wind up working out as The Doctor makes the Daleks remember him and this somehow leads to the Daleks wiping out The Silence.

Sep 2, 2012#243

Hailey Knight

FnordBear said:
Quotemander: Best answer I can give you "Arrr and avast ye scurvy dog!"

Dammit, that was the other answer I got.

EDIT: And apparently Tumblr is off-limits until I do watch. Blarg.

Sep 2, 2012#244

evilmike

Quotemander Prime said:
For those who don't have TV, how can we watch the new season?

You might be able to find it on one of the online video streaming sites like DailyMotion.com.

Perhaps searching for the title "DWS07E01pt1" will help.

Sep 2, 2012#245

ThatNickGuy

Quotemander Prime said:
Dammit, that was the other answer I got.

EDIT: And apparently Tumblr is off-limits until I do watch. Blarg.

Join with us, Quotemander. Be one of us. We accept you. One of us! One of us! One of us!

Sep 2, 2012#246

Hailey Knight

Sep 2, 2012#247

Norris

The only reliable alternative to the digital high seas, of which I am aware, is paying the $1.99 at iTunes or Amazon.

Sep 2, 2012#248

ThatNickGuy

How does that work, anyway? If it's like buying music digitally on Amazon, I'd be okay with it. With music, I can download the mp3s and do with them as I please.

Sep 2, 2012#249

sixpackshaker

That was a very good episode...

I was a little sad that the Girl did not turn out to be a new companion.

Sep 2, 2012#250

Covar

sixpackshaker said:
That was a very good episode...

I was a little sad that the Girl did not turn out to be a new companion.

actually...

More questions than answers.

Sep 3, 2012#251

filmfanatic

Just a little something involving the main stars and current showrunner of Doctor Who:

Sep 3, 2012#252

Ravenpoe

filmfanatic said:
Just a little something involving the main stars and current showrunner of Doctor Who:

I just experienced geek joy.

Sep 3, 2012#253

HCGLNS

http://www.news.com.au/technology/a...e-early-at-iview/story-e6frfro0-1226460269988

Sep 3, 2012#254

figmentPez

I had fun, but I was also very disappointed.

I thought this was an amazing opportunity to examine the Dalek mind. What constitutes an insane Dalek should have been played with more. This should have been an episode with Daleks acting very strangely, and in some very un-Dalek ways. Instead of a Dalek insane asylum, we got a Dalek geriatric ward.

Loved Oswin though.

Also, I want to see rule 63 cosplay of Rory as Nina.

Sep 3, 2012#255

BananaHands

Sep 3, 2012#256

sixpackshaker

Is there an unwritten rule that all image macros have to be misspelled?

Sep 3, 2012#257

Hailey Knight

I am now caught up and can speculate about stuff! And maybe question between season finales of 5 and 6:

Such as, if the Silence organized a fixed point in time where the Doctor would die, to prevent him from destroying everything with the answer to the question, why screw with the Tardis at the end of season 5 and cause the end of the universe that way? The only way I see that is that they didn't know it would do more than kill the Doctor, even though the cracks were appearing all over time and space.

Sep 3, 2012#258

Yoshimickster

I just finished the first season Dalek saga! Pure B & W goodness. I gotta get those DVDs for my birth-day.

Sep 4, 2012#259

@Li3n

sixpackshaker said:
That was a very good episode...

I was a little sad that the Girl did not turn out to be a new companion.

Actually after the reveal

i was hoping she'd still be one in her current state...

Now that would have been something.

Sep 4, 2012#260

Norris

@Li3n said:
Actually after the reveal

i was hoping she'd still be one in her current state...

Now that would have been something.

Oh good, I'm not the only one.

Sep 4, 2012#261

@Li3n

Yoshimickster said:
I just finished the first season Dalek saga! Pure B & W goodness. I gotta get those DVDs for my birth-day.

The stuff with the radiation was incredible for a 60's show... and the Daleks themselves where awesomely conniving... and i'm pretty sure they stole the opening music from the future...

Sep 4, 2012#262

sixpackshaker

Thanks for sharing that.

Sep 4, 2012#263

Yoshimickster

@Li3n said:
The stuff with the radiation was incredible for a 60's show... and the Daleks themselves where awesomely conniving... and i'm pretty sure they stole the opening music from the future...

Probably, I mean that shit is crazy futuristic. I loved the idea of radioactive mutations being the source of a creature's evolution, which is indeed amazing for a 60s show.

Sep 4, 2012#264

BananaHands

Eggs, stir, min: 8.

Sep 4, 2012#265

Covar

BananaHands said:
Eggs, stir, min: 8.

They're not trying to kill us, they just want to share their wonderful souffle recipe!

Sep 4, 2012#266

BananaHands

Covar said:
They're not trying to kill us, they just want to share their wonderful souffle recipe!

[DOUBLEPOST=1346783809][/DOUBLEPOST]

Although an interesting thing is that her souffle always came out burned, it could have been because she was subconsciously keeping her humanity in check.

[DOUBLEPOST=1346783890][/DOUBLEPOST]Also, I'm sorry Amy... but I'm in love with someone else now.

Sep 4, 2012#267

Covar

Any other show I would say you're over thinking the writers, but it was probably considered and the internal reasoning.

Sep 4, 2012#268

Norris

This is a tangent but does it bug anyone else when characters toss not only ruined food but the cookware the food is on into the garbage in TV and movies?

Amorous Eyes said:
We felt that

and I'm very curious how they will make the 'Dalek Girl' the new companion. Right now my bet is on having her past self join up with the Doctor. He has also never actually seen her so he may not even realize it's her (going by the rumor that her name will be Clara, not Oswin) until later in the series.

People on the web have pointed out that Oswin's chair is the same as the one that Jenny from The Doctor's Daughter (or as I like to call her, Jenny Doctorsdottir) sat in when she flew off Messaline. One theory going around is that Oswin is a regenerated Jenny, meaning that her reappearance later in the season could pretty much only happen the way you theorize. It would also add an extra layer of tragedy to the whole situation, and since Moffat seems to have a Whedonesque hatred for joy, that seems plausible. Alternately, we'll either have a Gwen Cooper/Gwenyth from 1869 "spatial genetic multiplicity" situation going on or the character will be from Messaline or a similar world where reproduction by cloning is the norm.

Sep 9, 2012#269

Wahad

Dinosaurs....on a SPACESHIP!

The plot was kinda weak this episode but damnit if I wasn't grinning like an idiot all the way through. Doctor Who is sometimes just cheesy entertainment and this was a prime example. Mark Williams was great as Rory's dad, the dinosaurs looked pretty good (Tricey nooooo

) and it was all around a good hour of fun.

Sep 9, 2012#270

FnordBear

I'm still trying to figure out how that ark has only been flying around for around two thousand years unless I totally misheard that line.

Sep 9, 2012#271

Wahad

FnordBear said:
I'm still trying to figure out how that ark has only been flying around for around two thousand years unless I totally misheard that line.

Ding!

Sep 9, 2012#272

sixpackshaker

FnordBear said:
I'm still trying to figure out how that ark has only been flying around for around two thousand years unless I totally misheard that line.

That's how long the robots where stuck on the ship.

Sep 9, 2012#273

ThatNickGuy

"How do you start a tricerotops?!"

"I'm easily worth two men? You can help, too, if you like."

"No, I'm Rory's queen..."

Oh my god. So many awesome quotes. I do agree that plot itself was pretty simple, but for sheer, delightful fun? Loved it. This has been a great season so far and next week doesn't look any different to change my mind on that.

Sep 9, 2012#274

Covar

John Crichton returns to Sci-fi!

Also best quote "They're people, not ponds."

Sep 9, 2012#275

ThatNickGuy

"William Pond..."
"I'm not a Pond."
"Yes you are."

Sep 9, 2012#276

Wahad

ThatNickGuy said:
"William Pond..."
"I'm not a Pond."
"Yes you are."

His name was Brian.

Sep 9, 2012#277

ThatNickGuy

Your mom's name is Brian!

Sep 9, 2012#278

twitchmoss

favourite line of the episode?

"I'm thirty-one. I don't have a christmas list" "I do!"

Matt smiths enthusiasm definitely helped carry the episode. I've felt before that he can carry a slightly less well-written script far better than tennant could, and I *like* tennant.

I watched this episode twice last night (got to re-watch it with my dad

), and I ... really liked it.
Its not the brilliantly plotted mindscrews that have been running around courtesy of moffat, or the big earth-shattering life-changing revelatory epic that have been going on since the show came back.
its just... a fun, light-hearted episode that the shows been kind of short on recently. not to say that we haven't had fantastic stuff, but... I felt like this was a breather episode, and a pretty good one to boot. It wasn't about the thrill of a sudden plot twist, it was just the thrill of

well, seeing two awesome people fighting velociraptors with stun guns aboard a thousand year old space ark created by lizards, which is about to crash into the earth.

and that shot of Brian pond/williams sitting happily in space, legs dangling over the side of the tardis, watching the earth go by, with a sandwich and thermos of tea is honestly one of my favourite images of Who in a long, long time. and the ongoing shot was great too, with amy and rory both looking at the earth with the same expression as brian... and the doctor unable to relate.

and there were some great one liners, and a pretty dark response at the end. We don't always see the doctor being that...direct to someone who's pissed him off.

bring on the next ep!

Sep 10, 2012#279

Wahad

I forgot it last week, but have the review from the most credible (read: adorable) Doctor Who reviewer out there.

Sep 10, 2012#280

BananaHands

This episode was wonderful, even with how childish it was... it certainly took a turn at the end there.

But thanks Wahad for posting this image. Probably my favorite Doctor Who bit in a long while.

Sep 10, 2012#281

BananaHands

Also, are they building up to something with the music in the episodes?

Asylum - Carmen
Dinosaurs - Fantasia in D Both of which he mentioned having a hand (quite literally in the latter) in?

Sep 10, 2012#282

@Li3n

Yoshimickster said:
Probably, I mean that shit is crazy futuristic. I loved the idea of radioactive mutations being the source of a creature's evolution, which is indeed amazing for a 60s show.

What really impressed me is what the cure did...

Sep 10, 2012#283

Calleja

Just though this might be a good place to share what my next tattoo is going to be:

Around the arm/shoulder, generating from "behind" the 42 already tattoo'd on my left inside bicep. You guys have seen the 42, right?

Sep 10, 2012#284

Yoshimickster

@Li3n said:
What really impressed me is what the cure did...

Ooooooooh yeah that was good too! Like how it was good for the Thals but poisonous to the Daleks. Opposite sides of the spectrum.

Sep 15, 2012#285

Wahad

"What're you doing here, son?''

Yet another amazing episode. Bit more serious than the last time, definitely a hell of a lot darker (even with last week's ending).

Goddamn but the Angry Doctor is definitely the Best Doctor, especially if it's Matt. The scene with him throwing Jex out of town, holding him at gunpoint and Amy's subsequent calling out of him (and the gun oh god I hope nobody got hurt, damnit Amy) was the highlight of the episode. Also, Susan :3

Sep 15, 2012#286

Bowielee

They are going full on camp this year, aren't they?

Sep 15, 2012#287

ThatNickGuy

Full-on camp would be the Adam West Batman. This is more like very simple themes. Dalek asylum, dinosaurs on a spaceship, western. They're basically taking what, on the surface, is a very simple concept and just running with it.

Sep 15, 2012#288

Bowielee

Come on, the Mitchel and Webb bots, Nefertiti, the dinosaur playing fetch? That's as campy as Tim Curry in his Frankenfurter outfit.

I'm not saying that's a bad thing. Matter of fact, one of the original draws of the show was its camp factor.

Sep 15, 2012#289

ThatNickGuy

The show has always had a bit of "camp" behind it, though I would define it more as just silliness or fun. I knew that from very beginning, with the evil mannequins or the idea of an "old classic" song was Brittany Spears' Poison.

But it's still a show that's serious enough at most times that I wouldn't honestly categorize it as camp.

Sep 15, 2012#290

Bowielee

Camp is fun. I think you give that word a far more negative connotation than it has.

Sep 15, 2012#291

Norris

Bowielee said:
Camp is fun. I think you give that word a far more negative connotation than it has.

I don't know, I've always viewed the word quite negatively. Mainly because I rarely hear it used to describe something good. Mostly? I hear it used to describe stuff like Batman & Robin.

Sep 16, 2012#292

Bowielee

Norris said:
I don't know, I've always viewed the word quite negatively. Mainly because I rarely hear it used to describe something good. Mostly? I hear it used to describe stuff like Batman & Robin.

See, there's a huge difference between camp and crap. Here, I'll let wiki do the heavy lifting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_(style)

It's something that's exaggerated to the point of near ridiculousness. I'd say a big game hunter, Nefertiti, bumbling robots running around with dinosaurs that act like dogs firmly falls into that category.

Again, it's not BAD, it's campy.

Camp becomes bad when it's taken to an extreme to where it is beyond ridiculous, such as Batman and Robin. The original Batman TV series, that was FULL ON camp, but it was great because it was so ridiculous it wrapped back around to being fun.

The Hitchhiker's Guide and most "zany" stuff falls into the same category. It doesn't mean it's bad.

Just as a caveat, one of the reasons camp has taken on such a negative connotation is it's association with homosexuality and it's aesthetic being embraced by that community. This leads to one of the main reasons it is used as a derisive term.

Sep 16, 2012#293

BananaHands

Absolutely loved this part.

"I genuinely don't know."

Sep 19, 2012#294

DarkAudit

Was just pointed out to me on another site...

Each week, the titles vortex is getting darker.

Sep 22, 2012#295

Wahad

The best episode so far, and the saddest.

While the ending was a bit rushed, the rest was really really good. The whole idea behind the cubes was ingenious (even if it got foiled but that's what the Doc's there for). And a few of the lines were making me really sad, like "Because you were the first face this face ever saw" and "Not them, Brian. Never them." Also, I want one of those cubes.

Sep 22, 2012#296

ThatNickGuy

"Welcome back, Lefty!"

God, I love this show.

Sep 29, 2012#297

twitchmoss

I uh... I'm gonna need a minute here, I think.

Holy shit.

Sep 29, 2012#298

ThatNickGuy

Good episode, overall, but I didn't enjoy it as much as previous episodes this season.

More thoughts behind the spoiler:

1) I was angry and sad all at once with the ending. Sad because that's the last we see of Rory and Amy (though I'll bet they'll figure a way to return for short stints, like Rose). Angry because...well, I liked those characters, even though their storyarc is over.

2) I didn't like how we basically saw Amy's sacrifice thing twice.

3) As cool as the cherubs and Liberty angels were, they honestly didn't really do anything of note. The Liberty angel makes no sense, even though they kind of HAD to do it. I mean, who in New York wouldn't see the Statue of frigging Liberty walking down Broadway?

4) The ending, after Rory & Amy "die" felt rushed. Though I did like the fable-like ending where we hear about some of Amy's adventures. It ties back in with her treating The Doctor as an imaginary friend, where we began.

5) THE DOCTOR NEVER WORE A FEDORA!!! How the hell do you send him back to the late 30s and not have him wear a fedora?!

All of these are minor nitpicks at best. It was still a very good episode, overall.

Sep 29, 2012#299

SpecialKO

Totally localized nitpick:

Even if you removed all the buildings in-between, the Chrysler Building is not going to look anywhere near that large from Battery Park/tip of Manhattan. It's a skyscraper, yes, but it's 5 miles away. It won't even be close to that size.

Sep 30, 2012#300

Timmus

Bawwwwwwwwwww!

Sep 30, 2012#301

Wahad

"I don't like it."

All I have to say is sadface.

The saddest face.

Sep 30, 2012#302

BananaHands

Poor Brian Williams.

Oct 1, 2012#303

Green_Lantern

So, excuse me while I suffer from chronic doctor who related depression

Oct 4, 2012#304

Covar

Is it Christmas yet?

Oct 12, 2012#305

evilmike

It turns out that there was a final scene with Brian that was not filmed. It's storyboarded here:

Oct 12, 2012#306

sixpackshaker

where's the rating button for being happy and weepy at the same time?

Nov 10, 2012#307

evilmike

New picture of the...

Cybermen (via Doctor Who: The TARDIS Databanks)

Nov 10, 2012#308

ThatNickGuy

Ooh.

But also, you should spoiler-text that for people who want to be surprised.

Nov 16, 2012#309

evilmike

The Christmas Special Prequel that aired during this year's Children in Need special

Nov 16, 2012#310

ThatNickGuy

Doctor Scrooge!

Nov 16, 2012#311

Wahad

Doctor no ):

Nice tophat though.

Nov 16, 2012#312

sixpackshaker

Wahad said:
Doctor no ):

Nice tophat though.

Top hats are cool.

Nov 20, 2012#313

evilmike

Trailer for the Christmas episode

Dec 1, 2012#314

evilmike

Absolutely not a screencap from the Christmas episode

Dec 17, 2012#315

evilmike

Another webisode prequel for the Christmas episode

Dec 17, 2012#316

BananaHands

I AM SO CONFUSED BY STRAX BEING THERE.

Dec 17, 2012#317

Wahad

BananaHands said:
I AM SO CONFUSED BY STRAX BEING THERE.

I hope they just don't explain this at all. Make us guess forever.

Dec 17, 2012#318

BananaHands

Wahad said:
I hope they just don't explain this at all. Make us guess forever.

I accept that.

Dec 25, 2012#319

evilmike

The answer to the mystery surrounding the new companion seems pretty obvious...

Oswin is obviously a Jagaroth.

Also, the new opening is retrorific.

Dec 25, 2012#320

figmentPez

I wish I'd been able to pay more attention to ~~"Attack of the Deranged Mutant Killer Monster Snow Goons"~~ "The Snowmen". Today was very busy and I just couldn't focus. I'll have to rewatch it later.

Dec 26, 2012#321

BananaHands

Dec 26, 2012#322

T

The_Khan

damn, I was hoping for an old Mayan god.

Dec 26, 2012#323

Wahad

BananaHands said:
I AM SO CONFUSED BY STRAX BEING THERE.

Guess we have an answer now!

Intro was trippin' balls, everything was great more Doctor Who yaaaaay. Presumably

Clara is a living paradox slash not-Timelord - her lives are all different, and she's not aware that she has different lives, but she's the same person soooo...wibbly wobbly is the best I can come up with.

Dec 26, 2012#324

ThatNickGuy

I keep skipping back to the scene where he introduces the TARDIS' new desktop theme.

Dec 26, 2012#325

Covar

I absolutely love the new retro design of the tardis console.

Dec 26, 2012#326

BananaHands

And how about the whole Great Intelligence seeing the London Underground thing omg.

Dec 26, 2012#327

ThatNickGuy

BananaHands said:
And how about the whole Great Intelligence seeing the London Underground thing omg.

I didn't understand that one at all.

Dec 26, 2012#328

Wahad

ThatNickGuy said:
I didn't understand that one at all.

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Great_Intelligence[/spoiler]

Dec 26, 2012#329

BananaHands

Was anyone else taken aback by how poorly The Doctor treated Strax?[DOUBLEPOST=1356562262][/DOUBLEPOST]

Wahad said:
Clara is a living paradox slash not-Timelord - her lives are all different, and she's not aware that she has different lives, but she's the same person soooo...wibbly wobbly is the best I can come up with.

I'm wondering if it's a clone or something the Great Intelligence has placed across time (due to running into her when he was initially forming on Earth) in some weird way to trap the Doctor.

The usual "SHE'S THE RANI"

or "SHE'S JENNY"

Rory's illegitimate child.

Something something Master.

Dec 26, 2012#330

Wahad

Not really. It was already established that he was in Scrooge mode, and Strax was a convenient target for his moodiness. Also, regarding Clara,

There's a theory that the universe is doing the Doctor a favor/repaying a debt by putting her in his path and I kind of like it :3

Dec 26, 2012#331

ThatNickGuy

BananaHands said:
Was anyone else taken aback by how poorly The Doctor treated Strax?

A little bit, but not enough to throw me off. As Wahad said, The Doctor was in full Scrooge mode at that point.

Dec 26, 2012#332

Calleja

Plus, Strax is a Sontaran who still thinks everyone else is inferior to him and should die, even if he's helping cause of a debt, so it's not like he's being a dick to the nicest guy around.

Besides, as long as we get lines like "No, no, you're not clever and you're not funny. *I'm* the clever one, you're the potato one!" I'm 100% ok with a dick-ish Doctah.

Mar 6, 2013#333

evilmike

Mar 6, 2013#334

figmentPez

evilmike said:

Killer Croc in power armor?

Mar 6, 2013#335

ThatNickGuy

evilmike said:

Man, the budget for the Robocop movie must've had a major cut.

Mar 6, 2013#336

Ravenpoe

ThatNickGuy said:
Man, the budget for the Robocop movie must've gone up.

FTFY

Mar 9, 2013#337

twitchmoss

So today I went to a 50th anniversary book signing at forbidden planet

They're re-releasing a whole bunch of the novelisations and original novels for the anniversary.

Got my books signed by Dan Abnett (the silent stars go by) , Ben Aaronovitch (remembrance of the daleks, which i've been trying to hunt down in second-hand bookstores for aages) and best of all, Terrance Dicks.
Dicks was script editor for nearly ten years, and wrote... most of the novelisations. I think his books were the first "proper" exposure I had to doctor who, when I found a crapload of the paperbacks in the local library. When the show was being repeated on tv in the Late 80's/early 90's, i was too young to be anything but terrified of the opening intro. I must have known what was going on by the time the '96 tv movie was on, so... yeah. thank Terrance Dicks

Mar 16, 2013#338

figmentPez

EDIT: Fanmade trailer for the 50th anniversary episode

Mar 16, 2013#339

figmentPez

Okay, here's a trailer that's actually from the BBC:

Mar 18, 2013#340

Shawn

If I haven't said it before, Matt Smith is the shit.

Mar 23, 2013#341

ThatNickGuy

A little mini-episode prequel to next week's new episode. It's rather sweet.

Mar 26, 2013#342

ThatNickGuy

And now...a deleted scene that reveals how Strax lived!

Apr 1, 2013#343

sixpackshaker

It was easier to pick this girl up than I thought...

Bells of St. John... lol.

edit: OK, sorry for the mild spoilerage.

Apr 1, 2013#344

Shawn

Shhhhh. I haven't seen it yet.

Apr 3, 2013#345

evilmike

(via Life, the Universe & Combom)

Apr 3, 2013#346

Shawn

So if both David Tennant and Billie Piper are returning, does that mean it won't really be a "Multi-Doctor" story? Usually when those occur the current Doctor ends up meeting with his past selves via time travel (cause, you know... TIME MACHINE). It's not something he's supposed to do, but on occasion it happens and I think at least 2-3 of the times it's happened in the show's history have supposedly been amongst the strongest episodes. I guess it's still possible that David Tennant will be his 10th generation, but my bet is that if Rose is there, he will be the human "copy" that was made at the end of the 4th season. You know. The one that coincidently allowed Rose to run off with the love of her life, without the love of her life actually having to do the same.
Which means The Doctor will once again have to pierce through the veil of alternate realities.
If this is the case... I kinda feel cheated.
Plus Rose has never been one of my favorite characters. Bring back Donna or something. I mean yeah it would make her go BOOM to be with the Doctor again... but oh well.

Apr 3, 2013#347

Covar

10.5

I'm hoping for the multi-doctor special this year. I just love how the current doctor finds his past selves annoying because of how young and "stupid" they are. Because lets be honest, we would all find our younger selves difficult to put up with.

Apr 4, 2013#348

CrimsonSoul

Amy would be my most favorite companion. I wish she didn't die, but I'm happy she lived a long life

Apr 6, 2013#349

Ravenpoe

So, uh.. what?

The Doctor says he's been there at the rings many years before, and that he brought his GRANDDAUGHTER there. Clara asks for clarification and he ignores her on to his next leap of thought.

I was expecting him to turn out to be the 'old god' that they worshiped, since they called it grandfather, but that wasn't it. WTF could that have meant?

Apr 7, 2013#350

Wahad

Ravenpoe said:
So, uh.. what?

The Doctor says he's been there at the rings many years before, and that he brought his GRANDDAUGHTER there. Clara asks for clarification and he ignores her on to his next leap of thought.

I was expecting him to turn out to be the 'old god' that they worshiped, since they called it grandfather, but that wasn't it. WTF could that have meant?

It's a reference to the First Doctor, played by William Hartnell, whose companion was Susan, his granddaughter.

This episode was good. Matt Smith still terrifies me sometimes when he goes full-on old soul Doctor. The speech! :aaah:

Apr 7, 2013#351

Shawn

Wahad said:
It's a reference to the First Doctor, played by William Hartnell, whose companion was Susan, his granddaughter.

This episode was good. Matt Smith still terrifies me sometimes when he goes full-on old soul Doctor. The speech!

Huh. Ben Paddon, a local Doctor Who Trivia Celeb, posted that he really thought it was a poor episode.

My spoiler-free assessment of this week's Doctor Who, "The Rings of Akhaten": Pretty, but boring. It was dull, plodding, with an ending that had no sense of consequence or danger. Pity.

But then again he's the same guy who claims that "Love and Monsters" is a completely underrated episode, mostly because it's misinterpreted as fact and not just the ramblings of some wacko's run-in with the doctor.

Sorry, Ben. Love and Monsters sucks. True story.

I haven't seen any of the newest half season episodes. I'm waiting for some birthday cash before I just purchase them on itunes.

Apr 7, 2013#352

mikerc

Ravenpoe said:
So, uh.. what?

The Doctor says he's been there at the rings many years before, and that he brought his GRANDDAUGHTER there. Clara asks for clarification and he ignores her on to his next leap of thought.

I was expecting him to turn out to be the 'old god' that they worshiped, since they called it grandfather, but that wasn't it. WTF could that have meant?

Not actually a spoiler Ravenpoe - waaaay back when Doctor Who first started his first companion was his granddaughter Susan. Course back then they hadn't even decided to make the Doctor an alien yet, so we hadn't heard of Time Lords, Gallifrey or regenerations.[DOUBLEPOST=1365351560][/DOUBLEPOST]Ninja'ed by Wahad on a new page .

Apr 8, 2013#353

Green_Lantern

I was expecting they would bring up the comment about his granddaughter again by the end of the episode:

and he would have forgotten about her.

I liked this episode, but it felt too... unfinished, too rushed in the start and the end.

I am the only noticed that this episode features a fight with an god and a Carl Sagan quote?

Apr 8, 2013#354

ThatNickGuy

So, um...

Did The Doctor just extinguish a culture's sun and then leave? Because that was my impression. It went from the sun darkening out and then suddenly, we're dropping Clara off on Earth.

Apr 8, 2013#355

DarkAudit

ThatNickGuy said:
So, um...

Did The Doctor just extinguish a culture's sun and then leave? Because that was my impression. It went from the sun darkening out and then suddenly, we're dropping Clara off on Earth.

Not just you. (too lazy to post the photoset here)

Apr 8, 2013#356

sixpackshaker

He called that "star" a planet several times.

Apr 8, 2013#357

figmentPez

sixpackshaker said:
He called that "star" a planet several times.

I thought it was a gas giant, or maybe a brown dwarf. I don't think it was the main star of the system.

Apr 8, 2013#358

Covar

ThatNickGuy said:
So, um...

Did The Doctor just extinguish a culture's sun and then leave? Because that was my impression. It went from the sun darkening out and then suddenly, we're dropping Clara off on Earth.

Apr 10, 2013#359

Green_Lantern

figmentPez said:
I thought it was a gas giant, or maybe a brown dwarf. I don't think it was the main star of the system.

they also are in the RINGS of Akhaten, which only form around planets.

Apr 22, 2013#360

Shawn

My wife and I are two episodes into this 1/2 season and I gotta say... I'm very underwhelmed so far. The episodes have felt so mind-blowingly mediocre that it feels like Russell T. Davies got a hold of the show again. I had more faith in Moffat, even after a slightly disappointing 6th season. I mean it was pretty decent, but the finale was a little... awkward. The 7th season started out just fine. I especially enjoyed The Dalek Asylum and Dinosaurs on a Spaceship, heck, even the poorly reviewed Slowest Invasion episode was still pretty clever to me. But now the episodes have been pretty much all misses so far. Starting with the Christmas episode which, for the life of me, I can't enjoy regardless how people try to convince me otherwise.
I blame the poor writing for the secondary characters. I felt like after A Good Man Goes to War those established characters deserved a better return. Instead they show up, kinda acting like they are well out of their league, and slightly more comical and incompetent than before. Essentially they pulled a MIB2 with them.
Then there's Clara. I feel like she's the main reason I'm disliking the season so far. She's this perky, spitfire, girl with a heart of gold. So she's like a much paler version of Amy. Except she's BORING. I honestly don't find her interesting at all. She's clearly got a backstory that's going to be revealed in the finale, but so far there is just nothing very special about her that previous companions haven't done before and better.
I could also blame the fact that she's no Rory Williams... but that's not fair. No one will ever be as good as Rory Williams.

The recent episodes also have this level of hokey-ness to them that reminds me a lot of the Russell T. Davies episodes from the first 4 seasons (hence my reference above). And it's not a good kind of hokey-ness like in Dinosaurs on a Spaceship. It's not Daleks in Manhattan or Love and Monsters bad yet, but Rings of Akhatan definitely reminds me of the un-epic pacing that came with most of those terrible episodes.

I cross my fingers that the series picks up. I know there will never be a season quite like the 5th season again, but I still want to be impressed and excited after every episode.

Apr 22, 2013#361

CrimsonSoul

Shawnacy said:
I could also blame the fact that she's no Rory Williams... but that's not fair. No one will ever be as good as Rory Williams.

You will refer to him as The Centurion!

Apr 22, 2013#362

ThatNickGuy

I think part of the reason I'm not enjoying Clara as much as I thought I would is...honestly, she's not the same character we saw in the Dalek asylum episode or the Christmas episode. She's not as fun and flirty as she was there. Still enjoyable, but she seems more emotionally broken and scared than the confident, flirty, spitfire girl we saw before. Which honestly, was a large part of why I enjoyed her before.

Now of course, that's whether the other Claras we met were even the same character at all or if there's some kind of strange reincarnation thing going on or whatever will be explained later on.

Personally, I've been enjoying the new episodes for the most part. Last week's Cold War episode was good, but nothing particularly memorable. I liked this week's episode a lot more. I love how we saw Tennant's old, orange spacesuit make a reappearance. "I think it brings out my eyes!" "I think it hurts my eyes."

At first, I thought the problem was "Well, she's not Amy....or The Man Who Waited," but I don't think that's it. It's that the Clara that I fell in love with isn't the same one that we got for his new companion. It's not that she's unlikeable. I still like her quite a lot.

Also:
"I'm The Doctor."
"Doctor What?"
"If what like."

Apr 24, 2013#363

HCGLNS

May 2, 2013#364

evilmike

May 2, 2013#365

Hylian

I had been avoiding Doctor Who jut because I knew I would get hooked on it. I finally broke down and started watching it several weeks ago (I started at the 2005 reboot) and as I expected I was instantly hooked and I am now all caught up with the current season. As happy as I am to be caught up I am also saddened since i now actually have to wait for the next episodes instead of just plowing through them.

May 2, 2013#366

CrimsonSoul

Hylian said:
I had been avoiding Doctor Who jut because I knew I would get hooked on it. I finally broke down and started watching it several weeks ago (I started at the 2005 reboot) and as I expected I was instantly hooked and I am now all caught up with the current season. As happy as I am to be caught up I am also saddened since i now actually have to wait for the next episodes instead of just plowing through them.

Don't blink. Don't even blink.

May 2, 2013#367

Hylian

CrimsonSoul said:
Don't blink. Don't even blink.

May 2, 2013#368

Ravenpoe

Hylian said:

This should change if you scroll away and then scroll back.

May 2, 2013#369

CrimsonSoul

Ravenpoe said:
This should change if you scroll away and then scroll back.

I have that as my desktop from the one with the video camera in the ship. It's starts off as it in the corner eyes covered then it goes to right up to the screen teeth bared. Rotates every 20 minutes. It scares me sometimes lol

May 2, 2013#370

Eriol

Hylian said:
I had been avoiding Doctor Who jut because I knew I would get hooked on it. I finally broke down and started watching it several weeks ago (I started at the 2005 reboot) and as I expected I was instantly hooked and I am now all caught up with the current season. As happy as I am to be caught up I am also saddened since i now actually have to wait for the next episodes instead of just plowing through them.

My wife and I are exactly the same, except we started in December.

May 2, 2013#371

Dirona

Eriol said:
My wife and I are exactly the same, except we started in December.

Actually, it was late February to be precise.

And ya, I have mixed feelings about being up-to-date. The whole waiting a week for new material is brutal! Though, at least I don't need to avoid whole chunks of the Internet anymore for fear of spoilers.

May 3, 2013#372

Eriol

Dirona said:
Actually, it was late February to be precise.

Oh we were hooked when Space Channel was doing the marathon of Christmas specials, and that got me to actually pick up the DVDs from our friends, which then we tore through in late February.

May 5, 2013#373

Shawn

My "Hooked by Doctor Who" story is actually kinda fun.

I was never a huge Doctor Who fan. I liked the concept when I was younger, but never saw an episode outside of one starring the Daleks that I actually watched all the way through. My dad watched a lot of Tom Baker episodes on PBS, so he was always what I figured was pretty standard for a Doctor Who episode. Cheap special effects and a quirky Doctor.
I was excited for the FOX TV movie. But since that came and went without anything coming of it there wasn't really much held excitement.
After the Reboot in 2005 I wanted to give it another chance. I bought the 1st season on DVD and started giving it a run through. Once again I was disappointed by the hype. The new Doctor wasn't what I expected, and Rose and Micky were just annoying the piss out of me. I stopped watching about half way through.

Skip ahead to 2010. I start dating a girl who LOVES the Late Late Show With Craig Ferguson. She wants to take me down to the CBS studios for a taping, so we go through the list of guests so we can go to the taping that we know we'll enjoy the most. Jeff Goldblum catches both our eyes so we get tickets a couple of weeks in advance. Just before the show taping she gets an email informing us that there has been a change in guests and that Matt Smith will be on the show, and they want certified Doctor Who fans in the audience. Those with advance tickets are given the chance to write them first with our opinion of Doctor Who. I honestly think she responded with "We've heard of it and seen a few episodes" although I know she herself had never seen a single one.
Surprisingly we got an email back saying we would be assured seats.

We show up for the taping and see a HUGE line of folks all dressed up and hoping to get in. We kinda felt a little bad when we were asked to come to the front of the line because we had VIP tickets due to booking well before Matt Smith was a guest.

Want proof I was there? Check 1:42 in the very lower right corner. You can see half my head.

Well let's just say this taping SECURED Doctor Who in both our hearts. After the taping we both got a DVD copy of the 5th season that we were excited to watch as soon as we got home. It ended up being an all-nighter because we could not stop watching. The new Doctor was gold. Amy and Rory were gold. River Song came out of nowhere for us and rocked our socks off. Even after we stopped dating we would get together for all the new episodes of Doctor Who. We even road tripped down to San Diego to see Matt Smith on the Chris Hardwick Show at Comic Con in 2011.

Matt Smith is and always will be OUR Doctor.

Oh. And that taping of Craig Ferguson also left behind something very special.

May 5, 2013#374

figmentPez

So, next week's episode:

Doc-utus of Cy-borg-men?

May 12, 2013#375

ThatNickGuy

Nightmare in Silver

Really good episode, though not the mind-blowingly amazing episode we got last time from Neil Gaiman (who wrote this week's episode and The Doctor's Wife). Matt Smith continues to be the absolute best thing to ever happen to this show. I could've watched the whole episode with him just battling himself. I also liked the new, sleeker Cyberman designs.

Next week: The Name of The Doctor

We're all going to look very silly when it's revealed his name is Hugh. Turns out we've been pronouncing it wrong all this time.

May 12, 2013#376

Green_Lantern

I think that Doctor's Wife was the greatest episode ever.

I can't believe it was written by the same person that wrote Nightmare in Silver.

May 12, 2013#377

ThatNickGuy

Green_Lantern said:
I think that Doctor's Wife was the greatest episode ever.

I can't believe it was written by the same person that wrote Nightmare in Silver.

It was still a very good episode. And probably the best of this half of the season. It just wasn't mind-blowingly amazing like Doctor's Wife. And honestly, I don't think it's fair to Gaiman to expect it to be.

May 12, 2013#378

Shawn

Doctor's Wife is certainly up there at the top of my list. There are some good ones though (all from Matt Smith era) that make it hard for me to choose my absolute favorite. 11th Hour, Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone, A Christmas Carol, Doctor's Wife, Amy's Choice, Impossible Astronaut/Day of the Moon, The Girl Who Waited (I really tear up at the end there), Asylum of the Daleks, Dinosaurs in a Spaceship.

May 19, 2013#379

ThatNickGuy

The Name of The Doctor

Well, that was one hell of a finale, eh? I dug the hell out of it. More behind the spoilery stuff.

1) I was ready to murder-death-kill-destroy everyone at BBC if Jenny had been killed off for real.
2) Holy shit, seeing Strax suddenly going full Sontaran against Vastra was scary! I'd been so used to the awesome bumblingness of Strax that seeing him go bad because The Doctor never changed him was a scary, unexpected surprise. Seeing him get in a bar fight in Glasgow, though, was fucking awesome.
3) Loved all the cameo bits with the various Doctors of the past.
4) I get the feeling that's the last time we see River Song. A fitting ending, especially with "Goodbye, sweetie." I'm assuming from now on that The Doctor's name is actually Sweetie.
5) John Hurt?!!?

The going theory on Hurt right now is that he was a regeneration of the Doctor between 8 and 9. In other words, he was The Doctor involved in the entire Time War. That would make sense within the hints we were given about him. However, if this is true, then the other theory is that this makes Hurt The Doctor #9, Eccelston #10, Tennant #11, and Smith #12. I really hope they don't go and re-number the previous Doctors. Not only because it's how fans have discussed their favourite Doctors (outside of the actor's actual name), but Smith's run on the show especially has had all sorts of fun little jabs at him being #11, like the soccer jersey.

Of course, that brings up the OTHER theory about Hurt... They're going to call him The Valeyard, an old Doctor villain from times past, and was apparently a future regeneration; his thirteenth - and last - regeneration, in fact. this is all theories right now, but that'd be pretty awesome. Some more on The Valeyard here: http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/The_Valeyard

Overall, though, this hasn't been a great season in terms of one, overall storyarc. Moffat wanted each episode to be a great standalone episode - hence the movie poster style promotions for each episode - and I think on that, the season has been a success. The second half of the season has been hit and miss, but I think upon re-watching them, more will be appreciated.

May 19, 2013#380

klew

If Clara was starting to remember things she should not, and one of those things was the Doctor's name, and River and Clara were mind-linked, could that be how River learned his name, and not the Doctor actually giving it to River?

May 19, 2013#381

Ravenpoe

JOHN FUCKING HURT!

So yeah, when I heard that they were going to have an anniversary special with all of the past doctors having to get together to stop some powerful threat, I immediately called that it was going to be The Valeyard. And it looks like he might be played by John Hurt! Oh, and ThatNickGuy, he can't be the 8th Doctor, as the 8th Doctor was shown, in a BBC special, regenerating into the 9th Doctor right after destroying Gallifrey and ending the time war. Granted, this was in a special that took place a few years before the official reboot, and Eccelston wasn't added until a re-edit after, but I think it's still canon.

May 19, 2013#382

Shawn

Ravenpoe said:
JOHN FUCKING HURT!

So yeah, when I heard that they were going to have an anniversary special with all of the past doctors having to get together to stop some powerful threat, I immediately called that it was going to be The Valeyard. And it looks like he might be played by John Hurt! Oh, and ThatNickGuy, he can't be the 8th Doctor, as the 8th Doctor was shown, in a BBC special, regenerating into the 9th Doctor right after destroying Gallifrey and ending the time war. Granted, this was in a special that took place a few years before the official reboot, and Eccelston wasn't added until a re-edit after, but I think it's still canon.

Which special are you referring to? I've never heard of it and I have some very Whovian friends who would have mentioned it to me in many of the conversations we've had concerning the 8th doctor, who, from what I have been informed, only appeared in the Fox tele-movie "Doctor Who". Are you referring to the radio dramas that have come out starring McGann who reprised his role as the 8th Doctor?

May 19, 2013#383

Ravenpoe

Shawnacy said:
Which special are you referring to? I've never heard of it and I have some very Whovian friends who would have mentioned it to me in many of the conversations we've had concerning the 8th doctor, who, from what I have been informed, only appeared in the Fox tele-movie "Doctor Who". Are you referring to the radio dramas that have come out starring McGann who reprised his role as the 8th Doctor?

Actually, my mistake, I just checked and it didn't actually show the regeneration.

May 19, 2013#384

Shawn

Ravenpoe said:
Actually, my mistake, I just checked and it didn't actually show the regeneration.

Did the 8th Doctor ever make more than 1 TV appearance? I am confused.

May 19, 2013#385

Ravenpoe

Shawnacy said:
Did the 8th Doctor ever make more than 1 TV appearance? I am confused.

Not that I know of. I was actually confusing an episode of the 7th doctor (I think, everything before the reboot is sketchy to me) and combining it with a fanmade video that attempted to fill in the gaps.

May 19, 2013#386

Shawn

Ravenpoe said:
Not that I know of. I was actually confusing an episode of the 7th doctor (I think, everything before the reboot is sketchy to me) and combining it with a fanmade video that attempted to fill in the gaps.

Gotcha. I'm only aware that the 7th regenerates into the 8th in the Fox TV-Movie. Rowan Atkinson played the Doctor in a non-cannon spoof (Curse of Fatal Death) and he regenerates like half a dozen times or so in that one. The time war is never mentioned until the reboot, so it's unclear (to me at least) where in the Doctor's timeline the time war occurs. It is definitely somewhere between the TV-movie and the reboot however.

May 19, 2013#387

twitchmoss

from the beast below

" Three, I murder a beautiful, innocent creature as painlessly as I can. And then, I... I find a new name, because I won't be The Doctor anymore."

MOFFAT.

May 19, 2013#388

Green_Lantern

So, who wants to hibernate until november?

o/

Seriously, what the hell .___.

I mean great episode, but f@#&

May 19, 2013#389

sixpackshaker

It was fun to see the...

Un-Chameleoned TARDIS

May 19, 2013#390

evilmike

(from here)

May 19, 2013#391

Shawn

I look very much forward to seeing this episode. I should be able to sit down and watch it tomorrow.

May 20, 2013#392

Shawn

Good episode. Didn't really blow my mind or anything though.

I'm not sure how John Hurt is going to play into all of it. I assume he will be the Valeyard. The Doctor recognizes him, which I suppose makes sense since he's met him before. All this time travel stuff is so wonky, it's funny how he breaks his own rules so often and easily. But I think it's important to point out that I don't believe Hurt has been confirmed as the Valeyard in any way. The Great Intelligence mentions him as a nickname that the Doctor will have, but when we see John Hurt for the first time The Doctor does not call him by that name. He simply refers to him as his greatest and darkest secret. As a person who does not use the name The Doctor because he goes against that nature. This could certainly refer to the Valeyard, but it could also easily refer something/someone even darker. There isn't even enough evidence to suggest it's a future incarnation, because if he changed his name during his time looking like John Hurt, then Matt Smith still is the 11th Doctor. I was also very disappointed when The Doctor saves Clara. I do not like her.

May 20, 2013#393

BananaHands

Shawnacy said:
Good episode. Didn't really blow my mind or anything though.

I'm not sure how John Hurt is going to play into all of it. I assume he will be the Valeyard. The Doctor recognizes him, which I suppose makes sense since he's met him before. All this time travel stuff is so wonky, it's funny how he breaks his own rules so often and easily. But I think it's important to point out that I don't believe Hurt has been confirmed as the Valeyard in any way. The Great Intelligence mentions him as a nickname that the Doctor will have, but when we see John Hurt for the first time The Doctor does not call him by that name. He simply refers to him as his greatest and darkest secret. As a person who does not use the name The Doctor because he goes against that nature. This could certainly refer to the Valeyard, but it could also easily refer something/someone even darker. There isn't even enough evidence to suggest it's a future incarnation, because if he changed his name during his time looking like John Hurt, then Matt Smith still is the 11th Doctor. I was also very disappointed when The Doctor saves Clara. I do not like her.

I think he's the gap between the eighth and ninth doctor. He's the one who ended the time-war.

May 20, 2013#394

Green_Lantern

There is a theory that John Hurt...

...IS 8th, who aged at that point.

May 21, 2013#395

Shawn

With the new season come and gone, I'd like to take a moment to run through my thoughts on the last seven seasons. Starting with the Christopher Eccleston episode "Rose"

Season 1
Rose- After a two decade wait for a new episode in the series (not counting the movie) it's actually quite fitting to have a reintroduction to the Doctor where his first lines are (pretty much) "Hello. I'm the doctor. Nice to meet you. Now run for your life.". It's fitting and it goes a long way. Rose is a decent enough companion... but Micky... oh god. Micky. Even the episode itself tries to toss him out with the garbage.

The End of the World - Not a bad 2nd episode. It establishes that the Doctor can go anywhere and any time. Yes it's still Earth technically, but they make use of some wonderful makeup and special effects for alien beings.

The Unquiet Dead - Kind of a nod to old Doctor Who where they just meet up with random historical figures and involve them in their most recent adventure. Not bad.

Aliens of London/World War 3 - "Can you please stop farting while I'm talking" pretty much sums up that these episodes were an elaborate set-up for some crude humor in Doctor Who. Not a fan.

Dalek - Actually a very emotional episode. Eccleston gives a wonderful performance, and Rose definitely shows some decent character traits here. The Dalek however was a wonderful sight to see, and establishes that they ARE a force to be reckoned with. DO NOT FUCK WITH DALEKS. It also introduces a new companion who I thought would be a welcome addition to the TARDIS family.

The Long Game - An interesting episode that I felt worked fine on it's own. Then they jack it up by making the new companion from the previous episode turn a complete 180 and do something stupid getting him kicked off the TARDIS. Probably just to prove to the audience that The Doctor doesn't take asshats.

Father's Day- A confusing episode that establishes what happens when Paradoxes are created and how the universe isolates the problems and erases them from time. Very confusing, not a great feature for a series that is FULL OF PARADOXES, which I think is recognized very quickly by the creators since it's never brought up again.

The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances - Steven Moffat proves his writing skill when he comes up with the terrifyingly haunting "Are you my mummy?" gasmask boy. Captain Jack Harkness is also a great character who makes his debut. The first half does pretty well, though the second half borderlines cheesy in a bad way.

Boomtown: Better return of the farting alien from Aliens of London, but nothing amazing.

Bad Wolf/The Parting of the Ways: Daleks show up and pretty much make the emotional and tragic end of the one in Dalek seem pointless. Then Rose does stuff and the Doctor turns into someone better. That's pretty much what we get from it.

Season 2

The Christmas Invasion: What a terrifying Christmas story. In fact there really wasn't anything Christmasy about it except for the Santa and tree robots. It does establish David Tennant as the new rightful owner of the role of the Doctor.

New Earth: The return of an old villain, blah blah blah. It works. Tennant shows his goofiness here a bit and it works.

Tooth and Claw: It's one thing to make a series about aliens, but it's an entirely another to make fantasy elements like werewolves and try to explain them with a scifi mentality. Remember how Indy 4 made you mad when they said that holy artifacts were essentially alien tech? Same thing here. Establishes the creation of Torchwood, because the Queen is a bitch.

School Reunion: I like Anthony Head, so I enjoyed this one.

The Girl in the Fireplace: Moffat you wonderful bastard. If you see just one episode this season, see THIS one.

The Rise of the Cybermen/Age of Steel: Sets up a very haunting start for the return of the Cyberman. I don't really like seeing Micky again though.
The parallel dimension plot is kind of a weak excuse to get things to work they want for setting up the finale though.

The Idiot's Lantern: Meh. Hard to remember this one.

The Impossible Planet/Satan's Pit: Really... really? Satan? Ran out of ideas that quickly, Davies? Moffat probably had a broom closet of an office down the hall from you if you needed something decent. Well you can't really do worse, right?

Love and Monsters: FUUUUUUUUUUCCCKKKKKK YYYYYYOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!

Fear Her: Oh yay! The Doctor takes the Olympic torch from some guy! Asshole! Oh, and there is a little girl who's kinda more awkward and annoying than she is scary.

Army of Ghosts/Doomsday: Pretty much an excuse to get Cybermen and Daleks to duke it out. Micky shows up, pretending he's a badass still. As far as finales go it's okay.

May 21, 2013#396

Shawn

Season 3:
Runaway Bride: Awww! Donna! We love you! This episode is another reason to hate Christmas.

Smith and Jones: I enjoyed this one, and especially loved the Ja'doon as a police force for hire. I reused them in a session of the RPG once.

The Shakespeare Code: "let's explain magic to be a kind of science!"... "OKAY!"... "Incompetent high five!"

Gridlock: I really enjoyed this one. Very claustrophobic, but it works to it's advantage. Lots of colorful characters.

Daleks in Manhattan/Evolution of the Daleks: Apparently someone challenged Davies to make the Daleks seem as stupid and nonthreatening as possible. Complete success I'd say.

The Lazarus Experiment: Very middle road episode and hardly memorable.

42 - Very intense. A little out there plot wise, but still pretty thrilling.

Human Nature/The Family of Blood: The first viewing I liked it, but the second viewing I realized how flawed it is. A very slow pacing followed with some very hallow acting from certain supporting cast. But it does have a very touching quality to it, especially seeing the Doctor so vulnerable. Although that's also part of the problem as through most of this one the Doctor is just not the Doctor. In fact he's kind of a prick.

Blink: Moffat once again scares the shit out of us with the invention of the weeping angels, who will go down in history as one of the most memorable villains in the series.

Utopia/The Sound of Drums/Last of the Time Lords: I don't really know what to say about this one. I don't particularly enjoy the episodes where shit hits then fan then everything is undone so it never happened. It begs the question "why bother then?". It was nice to see the Master return, and I did like the evolution of his evil plot. The ending was very very out there though, even for Doctor Who. Apparently you can make a wish on a falling star and shriveled gnome The Doctor will get better. I don't know. It's all kinda stupid.

May 21, 2013#397

Wahad

Shawnacy said:
Army of Ghosts/Doomsday: Pretty much an excuse to get Cybermen and Daleks to duke it out.

And it is glorious. :popcorn:

May 21, 2013#398

Shawn

Season 4

Voyage of the Damned - Probably the most Christmas themed Christmas episode since the reboot. It's cornball but in a fun way. There's several things that don't make sense, but they try to explain it in that Doctor Who way.

Partners in Crime - Donna is back! Yay! Weird episode regarding people's fat getting up and walking away, but still watchable.

The Fires of Pompeii - A nice look at what the Doctor calls "Fixed Points in Time" although he's very quick to attempt to break the cycle, only having the attempt be what starts the whole thing in the first place. So it's really not so much a fixed point is it? It actually takes a choice from the Doctor to do it.

Planet of the Ood - The Ood are a pretty creepy but enjoyable race in the Doctor Who universe. This is a strong episode for them and for the Doctor and Donna.

The Sontaran Stratagem/Poison Sky - Martha is just no believable in her new role as a Unit medical officer. The Sontaran's are a welcome addition to rebooted monsters, however their plan to poison the sky with cars is kind of a not so subtle environment message that just doesn't work.

The Doctor's Daughter - A nifty little stand-alone adventure that manages to peak my curiosity and keep it through the majority of the episode. Decent ending, and now I'm wondering what happened to Jenny.

The Unicorn and the Wasp - I was kind of hoping for something a little more from this one, but it really just seemed like a clash of genres that didn't pay off too well. The wasp thing was a really stupid monster for this one.

Silence of the Library/Forest of the Dead - Oh dear lord, what an AMAZING episode. You get the first appearance of River Song, and what a delight she is. You get a fantastic foe that you cannot see and yet has a terrifying presence, and overall just an amazing set of episodes. Thank you Moffat. The producers next big decision regarding you is going to be their best. Watch these no matter what!

Midnight - Actually a pretty decent Davies episode I'm surprised to say. It's chlostrophobic and very intense/scary. A good use of very little special effects and manages to deliver some very chilling sequences.

Turn Left -Rose is back. Blah. Donna shines. Yay!

The Stolen Earth/Journey's End - Daleks have been the focus of 3 out of 4 finales so far. Common. Let's try for some originality. Overall it's not horrible. Donna's fate is absolutely tragic and I love it so dearly. Rose gets a fuck-buddy Doctor clone so that should shut her stupid ass up for a while.

May 21, 2013#399

Shawn

David Tennant Specials

The Next Doctor - I enjoyed the Steampunk elements of this one. The giant Cyberman rampaging over Victorian London was pretty cool. The explanation of the Next Doctor is also one that I buy. So not bad. Not the best of the specials. But not bad.

Planet of the Dead - I like this one in the same way that I like Transformers: the movie. It's hokey, yeah. But it's a kind of fun hokey.

The Waters of Mars - This one is actually quite frightening and enjoyable. I also greatly appreciate the Doctor's decision to basically to flip off the Universe, fuck causality in the wormhole, and save the day even when he knows he shouldn't.

The End of Time - I have very mixed feelings about this one, as I don't think it's the best special. Sure we get to see the Time Lords return, and get some other backstory regarding the Time War, but still it's kind of hit and miss. Mostly miss. A world full of Masters is a rather odd plan. There is one scene of noteworthy mention. Matt Smith's transformation scene.

Season Five -By far the best season.

11th Hour - This is the perfect episode for anyone to begin who has never actually seen an Episode of Doctor Who and wants a good solid place to start. You get an introduction to the Doctor that is just perfect. His meeting with young Amy Pond is one of the most touching and beautiful moments in the history of the show. Acting is amazing throughout. Older Amy Pond is a delight, as is Rory, even though we haven't even seen the best of Rory yet. But together the three of them work like magic. My overall favorite scene in this one is the ending confrontation on the roof of the Hospital. The Doctor calls the aliens back to scold them. It's brilliant.

May 22, 2013#400

Shawn

The Beast Below - A wonderful second outing for Amy and the Doctor. The Doctor's true belief that all creatures are important is emphasized so well here. Amy also gets a chance to prove just how right she is for the role of a companion.

Victory of the Daleks - Not one of my favorites of the season, but it's still a lot better than the "misses" of previous seasons. Acting is overall wonderful in this one, especially the Doctor's angry rant against the Daleks. However their overall plan doesn't mean much when they don't end up ever using the new Dalek class system to any degree in future episodes. Also... space flying planes? I guess it's cool... until you get to that "wait a minute..." moment.

Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone - My absolute favorite Weeping Angels episode, and quite possibly one of my favorite episodes ever. This one does terror and suspense perfectly. Plus the angels are no longer the type to just "kill you nicely" by displacing you through time. Here they are out for blood and it's terrifying. The Doctor's "What you do not put in a trap" and his ending victory speech are fan-fucking-tastic.

The Vampires of Venice - This episode might be one of the lower points of the season if it's not for one important factor. Rory. Rory's "This isn't normal" attitude really makes this episode shine above the few "just okays" in this season. Plus there is a fantastic reaction from the Doctor when he meets the "brides". "Oh this IS Christmas!"

Amy's Choice - Oh I just love this episode. It's so sweet in it's simplicity. Two worlds. One choice. Amy's choice. Who does she want? Amazing and mysterious The Doctor, or plain ol Rory. The answer is obvious without spoiling it, but how she gets there is beautiful.

The Hungry Earth/Cold Blood - My least favorite this season I think, mostly because it takes up two episodes. Plot isn't that interesting, and neither are the monsters. Maybe if it were one episode it would be okay. Again not horrible. The Doctor/Amy/Rory do well enough to pull the episode through the rough parts of the script. The most important, and tragic part of the episode is at the very end of Cold Blood. Just tragic.

Vincent and the Doctor - A good stand-alone episode with a few fun segments such as the "monster in the rear view mirror" segment. There is some issues with it, but the acting and casting is just perfect. I don't think they could have gotten a better Vincent Van Gogh.

The Lodger - Hil-Fucking-Arious. I love this one. It's like a sitcom starring the Doctor.

The Pandorica Opens/The Big Bang - Now THIS is a season finale. I hope you're watching Davies and taking fucking notes. Even features the Daleks without revolving around them.

May 22, 2013#401

Reverent-one

Man, so much I can't agree with, especially on the fifth season, which is probably the single weakest one of the new series for me. I mean, Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone (where Moffat goes "let's use this one cool species and forget basically everything about them") being better than Blink? :aaah:

Also, thought this was interesting:

Shawnacy said:
Tooth and Claw:It's one thing to make a series about aliens, but it's an entirely another to make fantasy elements like werewolves and try to explain them with a scifi mentality. Remember how Indy 4 made you mad when they said that holy artifacts were essentially alien tech? Same thing here. Establishes the creation of Torchwood, because the Queen is a bitch.

Shawnacy said:
The Vampires of Venice - This episode might be one of the lower points of the season if it's not for one important factor. Rory. Rory's "This isn't normal" attitude really makes this episode shine above the few "just okays" in this season. Plus there is a fantastic reaction from the Doctor when he meets the "brides". "Oh this IS Christmas!".

So is making classic monsters sci-fi creature ok with Vampires, but not Werewolves?

Shawnacy said:
The Pandorica Opens/The Big Bang - Now THIS is a season finale. I hope you're watching Davies and taking fucking notes. Even features the Daleks without revolving around them.

Well that's easy to do when you ignore the Dalek's characterization and just throw them in because they're cool.

Shawnacy said:
The Long Game - An interesting episode that I felt worked fine on it's own. Then they jack it up by making the new companion from the previous episode turn a complete 180 and do something stupid getting him kicked off the TARDIS. Probably just to prove to the audience that The Doctor doesn't take asshats.

Actually, yeah, the point to Adam was to show that not everyone is cut out to be a companion.

May 22, 2013#402

Shawn

Reverent-one said:
Man, so much I can't agree with, especially on the fifth season, which is probably the single weakest one of the new series for me. I mean, Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone (where Moffat goes "let's use this one cool species and forget basically everything about them") being better than Blink?

Also, thought this was interesting:

So is making classic monsters sci-fi creature ok with Vampires, but not Werewolves?

Well that's easy to do when you ignore the Dalek's characterization and just throw them in because they're cool.

Actually, yeah, the point to Adam was to show that not everyone is cut out to be a companion.

Blink was good. But Angels/Stone improved upon the method. And no it's not "Let's use this one cool species", it's more like "Let's use the species I created". They have already been established as the oldest living and dangerous creatures in the galaxy. Pretty sure they have more up their sleeves than displacing people in time. And the Video clip scene with Amy is one of the scariest moments in Doctor Who that I can think of.

As far as Vampires/Werewolves, please remember: "Not vampires. Fish from space". There is a difference between a fantasy creature that is explained as science fiction, and a science fiction creature pretending to be a fantasy one.
For example. I have a friend who, for the Doctor Who RPG, really wanted to play an Elf. So he came up with a science fiction BS reason to play an Elf. I think he said he was some race of Gods who could become any form they wanted. So he became the form of an Elf. Then explicably lost all his memories, and learned how to survive in a forest setting.
No matter how you explain it, it's still a fucking ELF.

And I don't feel the Daleks were just thrown into the 5th season finale. They had reason to be there just as any of them. And they were a fearsome enough foe as a temporary threat to the characters that worked well with the story that was being told. Plus River Song got to make a Dalek pretty much wet it's pants. Thumbs up.

Sorry you're not a fan though.

But please tell me you at least agree with me on Love and Monsters.

May 22, 2013#403

ThatNickGuy

Shawnacy said:
Common. Let's try for some originality.

I try not to be a grammar or spelling Nazi, but this is a new one for me. Did you mean "Come on"? Unless you were trying to say "So common" like "That's so typical" with an eyeroll.

Either way, it made me think of this:

May 22, 2013#404

Reverent-one

The thing about Angels/Stone is that other than the very basics of the race, it radically changes the Angels, both with a bunch of retconned in abilties (some of which, like the image of an angel becomes an angel, could well have serious implications for the protaganists of Blink) and modus operandi. The Manhattan episode, while having it's own flaws, at least builds on the angels and makes them scarier by focusing on what's already established.

Worst of all is the change to how their "quantum locking" or whatever is portrayed. In Blink it's said that they absolutely cannot move when being observed, so the turning to stone must happen by unconscious reaction. However, in that case, simply acting like you're not blind shouldn't activate the abilty, they're not actually being observed, so the reaction doesn't kick in, period. Amy's fake-out only makes sense if they choose to turn to stone, which means a bunch of times when they were inches away with nothing to stop them, they just decided to freeze. Blink also had the nice touch that it treated the camera observing the angels for that as well, which they just tossed out in the two-parter.

Fair enough on the vampire/werewolf thing.

As for the Daleks in the season 5 finale, they seem thrown in because there's no reason given that they, being the fanatical space nazis that they are, would decide to work with a bunch of inferior races. They'll happily die rather than be corrupted, and ending reality has been on their list of goals as well. The utterly lawful Judoon being in the alliance as well is similarly strange. And honestly, the River making a Dalek beg for mercy is one of those things about River in the post-RTD era that makes her "meh" to me, special pet treatment.

To be fair, it's not like I despise the more recent Doctor Who, or even season 5. It's still pretty solid in general, I just think Moffat worked best as an episode writer, as showrunner he seems to get caught up in something that seems cool and not uncommonly ends up ignoring continuity or leaving threads dangling. And while RTD did some good work, Love and Monsters was definitely not one such episode.

May 22, 2013#405

klew

I felt that Vincent and The Doctor had a similar feel to The Girl in the Fireplace, but with a happier ending. Both were haunted by something specific to them, that no one else could see/understand. As expected, their enemies were defeated. At the end of the episode, a happy Vincent got to see that his work was loved and appreciated, but Madame de Pompadour was left waiting for The Doctor to return and take her away (another girl who waited).

Also, The Girl in the Fireplace is one of my favorite episodes in all of television.

May 22, 2013#406

Shawn

Reverent-one said:
The thing about Angels/Stone is that other than the very basics of the race, it radically changes the Angels, both with a bunch of retconned in abilties (some of which, like the image of an angel becomes an angel, could well have serious implications for the protaganists of Blink) and modus operandi. The Manhattan episode, while having it's own flaws, at least builds on the angels and makes them scarier by focusing on what's already established.

Worst of all is the change to how their "quantum locking" or whatever is portrayed. In Blink it's said that they absolutely cannot move when being observed, so the turning to stone must happen by unconscious reaction. However, in that case, simply acting like you're not blind shouldn't activate the abilty, they're not actually being observed, so the reaction doesn't kick in, period. Amy's fake-out only makes sense if they choose to turn to stone, which means a bunch of times when they were inches away with nothing to stop them, they just decided to freeze. Blink also had the nice touch that it treated the camera observing the angels for that as well, which they just tossed out in the two-parter.

Fair enough on the vampire/werewolf thing.

As for the Daleks in the season 5 finale, they seem thrown in because there's no reason given that they, being the fanatical space nazis that they are, would decide to work with a bunch of inferior races. They'll happily die rather than be corrupted, and ending reality has been on their list of goals as well. The utterly lawful Judoon being in the alliance as well is similarly strange. And honestly, the River making a Dalek beg for mercy is one of those things about River in the post-RTD era that makes her "meh" to me, special pet treatment.

To be fair, it's not like I despise the more recent Doctor Who, or even season 5. It's still pretty solid in general, I just think Moffat worked best as an episode writer, as showrunner he seems to get caught up in something that seems cool and not uncommonly ends up ignoring continuity or leaving threads dangling. And while RTD did some good work, Love and Monsters was definitely not one such episode.

Points well made. I guess I'm of the mindset that if something doesn't work well with the story you're trying to tell you're going to have to "Doctor Who it", in other words give an exception to what's going on. For example the angels were "confused and scared" when they ran into blind Amy due to the opening rift behind them. This same logic applies for the numerous number of times they have changed the basics of the universe to fit their needs. Sometimes with and sometimes without explanation. Take the Christmas Carol episode. Wonderful episode. But it does require them to break some paradox rules such as touching a younger version of yourself.

Daleks ARE space Nazis. And I'll consent to your complaints concerning the Pandorica trap scene as they would not be there with the other races. Especially the Judoon. At least not with a decent explanation that they did not provide.

May 22, 2013#407

Ravenpoe

Shawnacy said:
Daleks ARE space Nazis. And I'll consent to your complaints concerning the Pandorica trap scene as they would not be there with the other races. Especially the Judoon. At least not with a decent explanation that they did not provide.

The explanation is simple. They see the Doctor is so big a threat that they're all willing to set aside everything in order to work together to imprison him.

May 22, 2013#408

Reverent-one

*Shrugs* For a lot of them, that works, but like I said, the Dalek's endgame has been the destruction of reality before, so they're just kinda there IMO.

Personally I'm more go with the flow about inconsistencies in physics or laws of time and such than in more tangible things like characterization, like for example the "channel the collective energy of humanity through the Master's telepathic worldwide network" bit from season 3 just makes me go, "alright, sure, that's not the most ridiculous technological feat on the show" and the varying takes on paradox throughout the series just fall under "wibbly wobbly timey wimey".

Jun 1, 2013#409

mikerc

News about the Christmas special

Matt Smith to leave the show http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/doctorwho/articles/Matt-Smith-to-leave-Doctor-Who Disappointed to see him go, I felt he was the best of the new Doctors (Smith > Eccleston > Tennant). Any thoughts about who could replace him, John Hurt (depending on what happens in the 50th anniversary special), Benedict Cumberbatch (worked with Moffat on Sherlock), or someone else?

Jun 1, 2013#410

sixpackshaker

Benedict is too busy to film three episodes of Sherlock a year.

Jun 2, 2013#411

Shawn

I doubt Benedict, mostly because his film career has just blossomed as a result of Sherlock. Plus I think that Benedict playing the Doctor is bound to be very similar to Sherlock. Matt Smith originally auditioned for the show Sherlock. I think he auditioned for the part of Watson, but his manic style was just too close to what Benedict was already using for Sherlock. However it was enough to get him noticed when it came time to audition for the new Doctor.

I'm going to miss Matt Smith. I'm very sad to hear he's leaving. Especially after such a mediocre season.

Jun 2, 2013#412

ThatNickGuy

In my opinion, Smith was the best Doctor of the rebooted series. It wasn't just the character, which I loved because he had this gleeful childlike quality, but also Smith's performance. Even just in the way he moved or even sat so proper with his legs crossed, he stood head and shoulders above already great performances in Eccelston and Tennant.

I'll definitely be crying when he regenerates. I wasn't entirely emotional when Tennant left because honestly, I was growing tired of his over-the-top Shakespearean acting. When he shouted, "SO MUCH MORE!" in his finale, I was like, "Ohhhh-kay, I'm ready for the new guy now." From day one, I have never grown tired of Smith.

Jun 2, 2013#413

Green_Lantern

ThatNickGuy said:
In my opinion, Smith was the best Doctor of the rebooted series. It wasn't just the character, which I loved because he had this gleeful childlike quality, but also Smith's performance. Even just in the way he moved or even sat so proper with his legs crossed, he stood head and shoulders above already great performances in Eccelston and Tennant.

I'll definitely be crying when he regenerates. I wasn't entirely emotional when Tennant left because honestly, I was growing tired of his over-the-top Shakespearean acting. When he shouted, "SO MUCH MORE!" in his finale, I was like, "Ohhhh-kay, I'm ready for the new guy now." From day one, I have never grown tired of Smith.

I am have said this before, and I will say again: Matt Smith was the only actor that could actually pass the notion of a 1000+- time traveling alien, both Tennant and Eccleston passed a sort of... experienced and weird vibe, but they are never as good as Smith to pass both the child-like curiosity and excentricy combined with the ancient knowledge and wearyness that the doctor have faced in his long, long life.

Jun 2, 2013#414

figmentPez

Not something I'd actually want, but it made me laugh.

Jun 3, 2013#415

Reverent-one

Smith wasn't bad, but I won't feel bad to give someone else a shot at the role. After Eccelston and Tennant, Smith didn't really bring anything new to the role, he had the manic hyperactive doctor bit down, but beyond that...? Eh. 11 at times seemed too immature to be the Time Lord he was. I also miss the scary, unleashed fury aspect of the Doctor that Smith rarely, if ever, showed.

Jun 3, 2013#416

Shawn

Reverent-one said:
Smith wasn't bad, but I won't feel bad to give someone else a shot at the role. After Eccelston and Tennant, Smith didn't really bring anything new to the role, he had the manic hyperactive doctor bit down, but beyond that...? Eh. 11 at times seemed too immature to be the Time Lord he was. I also miss the scary, unleashed fury aspect of the Doctor that Smith rarely, if ever, showed.

These are some of the things that illustrate why I enjoyed Smith as much as I did. The 11th Doctor brought back that child-like curiosity and immaturity that the 4th Doctor portrayed. But behind that maturity was the intelligent and calculating mind that all Doctor's seem to possess. He could call something a "shiny-button-thing" but there is never any doubt that he knows exactly what it is right from the start. So when those moments of absolute clarity, absolute fear, and absolute rage surface, you just now it's a very serious situation.

Jun 14, 2013#417

evilmike

Rumors have started circulating that a number of lost episodes have been found. The most likely serial to benefit from this is 1967's "Evil of the Daleks" of which only one episode is currently known to exist. Reportedly, the missing six episodes have been recovered and the complete serial will be available later this year. (via BleedingCool)

Jun 14, 2013#418

Kovac

My friend went over what she considered to be wrong with Matt Smiths Doctor and in particular this last season.

http://smokeythemagnificent.com/2013/06/14/pah/

I can't say that I entirely disliked the season myself but I agreed with some of what she has here.

Jun 14, 2013#419

Tress

Kovac said:
My friend went over what she considered to be wrong with Matt Smiths Doctor and in particular this last season.

http://smokeythemagnificent.com/2013/06/14/pah/

I can't say that I entirely disliked the season myself but I agreed with some of what she has here.

I agree with most of those complaints, but I don't think Matt Smith is to blame. I put the blame squarely on Stephen Moffat's shoulders. The writing and direction of the show has gone downhill steadily as he gets more control. Clara is a terrible companion, and it's 100% because the writing for her sucks.

Jun 14, 2013#420

Ravenpoe

I liked this season, and I love Matt Smith's Doctor. :oops:

Jun 14, 2013#421

CrimsonSoul

I really really hate Clara

Jun 14, 2013#422

Kovac

I really wanted to like Clara but so far she has failed to bring anything interesting to the table. And the twist of her multiple lives hasn't been enough to peak my interest.

It was a nice starting point but I don't feel they did enough to make it interesting. It reminded me a lot of bad wolf but with a weak payoff.

Jun 14, 2013#423

figmentPez

I like the actress playing Clara, I like her sass and some of her lines, but overall the character seems pretty bland to me.

Jun 14, 2013#424

ThatNickGuy

I think the problem is that the Clara that I enjoyed from her first two appearances (Dalek prison and Victorian England) isn't the same Clara that actually joined the Doctor. She didn't have that same flirty spunk or oomph that I loved about her.

Jun 14, 2013#425

klew

Hopefully I haven't said this before. I thought it would have been interesting if, since it was a half-season, the Doctor would find a new Clara every episode, in different times and settings, and she would die every time (like South Park's Kenny). This would make for a longer story arc that might have some emotional payoff as the Doctor races to find out why she keeps dying, especially if it was his fault (she would never be in danger until he showed up).

Jun 15, 2013#426

Shawn

I am hopeful that they will utilize the multiple-Claras more in the future.

Jun 18, 2013#427

evilmike

evilmike said:
Rumors have started circulating that a number of lost episodes have been found. The most likely serial to benefit from this is 1967's "Evil of the Daleks" of which only one episode is currently known to exist. Reportedly, the missing six episodes have been recovered and the complete serial will be available later this year. (via BleedingCool)

Rumors have gone back and forth on if this is real.

The actual rumor definitely sounds too good to be true. There are 106 missing episodes. If the rumor is true, there will only be 16 missing episodes.

Jun 22, 2013#428

HCGLNS

http://jam.canoe.ca/Television/2013/06/21/20919286.html

Jun 22, 2013#429

sixpackshaker

HCGLNS said:
http://jam.canoe.ca/Television/2013/06/21/20919286.html

Now that is breaking from his character of the last 4 years...

Jul 19, 2013#430

BananaHands

Jul 19, 2013#431

ThatNickGuy

BananaHands said:

I don't know what that was, but it was pretty stupid.

Jul 19, 2013#432

BananaHands

ThatNickGuy said:
I don't know what that was, but it was pretty stupid.

It's supposed to be. It's NTSF:SD:SUV.

Jul 19, 2013#433

ThatNickGuy

BananaHands said:
It's supposed to be. It's NTSF:SD:SUV.

I don't know what that is.

Jul 19, 2013#434

BananaHands

ThatNickGuy said:
I don't know what that is.

Adult Swim show that makes fun of any of those CSI-esque shows. Hit or miss, but it has Bill from Freaks and Geeks in it.

Jul 19, 2013#435

sixpackshaker

It could be a parody of all the police procedurals out there that over use acronyms.

Jul 25, 2013#436

sixpackshaker

Awe, the beautiful red hair of Karen Gillian...

Jul 25, 2013#437

Ravenpoe

sixpackshaker said:
Awe, the beautiful red hair of Karen Gillian...

She still looks pretty good bald. Can't wait to see her in GotG

Jul 25, 2013#438

sixpackshaker

Ravenpoe said:
She still looks pretty good bald. Can't wait to see her in GotG

I imagine the day after she showed up to the set, the director said "We could have just used make-up..."

Aug 4, 2013#439

Wahad

The Twelfth Doctor is revealed. And it issssss...

Peter Capaldi!

Not sure yet about the choice. We'll see.

Aug 4, 2013#440

ThatNickGuy

Well, we've already seen him on Doctor Who once before.

[DOUBLEPOST=1375641536,1375641263][/DOUBLEPOST]Also...

!!!!

Aug 4, 2013#441

Dei

Still not ginger!

Aug 4, 2013#442

klew

ThatNickGuy said:
Well, we've already seen him on Doctor Who once before.

Also Torchwood Children of Earth. If there is another crossover appearance, it might need explaining, or a throwaway comment.

Aug 4, 2013#443

figmentPez

It's not like they ever explained why Karen Gillan played another character on Doctor Who.

In any case, the important question to be asking right now is: What does the new sonic screwdriver look like?

Aug 4, 2013#444

klew

figmentPez said:
It's not like they ever explained why Karen Gillan played another character on Doctor Who.

In any case, the important question to be asking right now is: What does the new sonic screwdriver look like?

They at least mentioned that Martha Jones had a relative at Torchwood during the battle at Canary Wharf. Easy way out is to say Amy Pond is a relative/descendant of the soothsayer.

Aug 4, 2013#445

Shawn

Dear lord. It's a television show. It's not like they are the first to reuse actors. I have a friend who was a patient on E.R one season, and then became a doctor on the show a few seasons later. And no... they were different characters. It's just one of the things you have to get past when casting from a small pool of appropriate actors for the role you're trying to fill. Plus, it's fucking England. I think we've already discussed that every English actor has probably already had a role in Doctor Who at some point, or is guaranteed to be in the future.

Aug 4, 2013#446

Frank

All the Star Treks had like 3 guys play every alien ever, I think Doctor Who? can survive using the same actor once in a while.

Aug 4, 2013#447

ThatNickGuy

Yeah, I never saw the big stink about having an actor return like that. I remember talking with a major Whovian in the comic store once about the rumour that Patterson Joseph was being considered for The Doctor (this was before Matt Smith was cast). They said, "Nope! He can't! He was in that Weakest Link episode!"

And yet Colin Baker (the sixth doctor) played a major role in a few episodes of Doctor Who as a key villain in the story. So it's not like there isn't a precedence for this sort of thing.

Aug 5, 2013#448

Shawn

figmentPez said:
In any case, the important question to be asking right now is: What does the new sonic screwdriver look like?

Actually, I'm more interested in knowing what the outfit is going to be.

Aug 5, 2013#449

Bowielee

Frank said:
All the Star Treks had like 3 guys play every alien ever, I think Doctor Who? can survive using the same actor once in a while.

Jeffrey Combs was, like, 6 or 7 characters on the various Star Trek shows, 3 on DS9 alone. Two of which were recurring characters that even appeared occasionally in the same episode.

Aug 5, 2013#450

sixpackshaker

I was hoping it would have really been John Hurt.

Aug 6, 2013#451

sixpackshaker

Now Craig Ferguson might get a part on Dr Who. Peter Capaldi was the lead singer in the same punk band as Craig. I bet he freaked out when he learned an old friend of his is going to be the new Doctor. I can't wait until Craig records his next show and talks about Dr Who for a whole hour.

Aug 6, 2013#452

Shawn

sixpackshaker said:
Now Craig Ferguson might get a part on Dr Who. Peter Capaldi was the lead singer in the same punk band as Craig. I bet he freaked out when he learned an old friend of his is going to be the new Doctor. I can't wait until Craig records his next show and talks about Dr Who for a whole hour.

That's awesome. Why are all these famous people connected in some way? I blame my friends for my lack of fame.

Aug 7, 2013#453

ThatNickGuy

Shawnacy said:
That's awesome. Why are all these famous people connected in some way? I blame my friends' lack of fame for my lack of fame.

Fixed that for ya.

Aug 7, 2013#454

Shawn

ThatNickGuy said:
Fixed that for ya.

Implied.

Aug 10, 2013#455

figmentPez

Real Life Comics for 2013-08-05

Aug 10, 2013#456

Shawn

Pretty much...

Aug 13, 2013#457

evilmike

Interesting streetview in London
(Make sure to click on the double arrow)

(via Jalopnik)

Aug 13, 2013#458

ThatNickGuy

Maybe The Doctor just stepped off to get some frozen yogourt?

Oct 6, 2013#459

PatrThom

Interesting news.

Over 100 long-lost Doctor Who episodes found by dedicated fans - in Ethiopia

--Patrick

Oct 10, 2013#460

evilmike

Nine episodes, all Troughton episodes. Four from Web of Fear, which now has 5 of 6 episodes. Five from the Enemy of the World, which is now complete. (viaBBC News)

Nov 14, 2013#461

ThatNickGuy

Time to get a little psyched about the upcoming 50th anniversary special. First, the trailer:

"Oh, you redecorated. I don't like it."

The other? A mini-episode to get you excited. And it's a hell of a way to get you excited because we get a VERY surprise guest star.

For those unfamiliar with the face, that's Paul McGann the 8th Doctor who only got to play the role once, for the Doctor Who movie in the mid-90s. The movie was shit, but many believe he was a great Doctor - or at least could have been great if given more than just the movie.

It makes me wonder now who else we'll see make a return for this special. I would've loved to see Eccelston one more time, but he was busy making Thor 2 at the time. I believe he also wants to distance himself from the role.

Nov 14, 2013#462

Bowielee

We will never see Eccelston as the Doctor again.

Nov 14, 2013#463

North_Ranger

Bowielee said:
We will never see Eccelston as the Doctor again.

Personally I'm thankful for that

Nov 14, 2013#464

Covar

Bowielee said:
We will never see Eccelston as the Doctor again.

Good.

Nov 14, 2013#465

ThatNickGuy

Nov 14, 2013#466

Shawn

Wow. So this officially puts John Hurt as the 9th regeneration. I guess technically not the 9th "Doctor".

I'm very excited.

Nov 14, 2013#467

Covar

ThatNickGuy said:

I love the little reference to the EMH.

Nov 14, 2013#468

Bowielee

I'm extremely happy to see McGann getting a chance to play the role again, however brief. It sucks that he didn't have the chance to really run with it.

So, on the huge side. It looks like we're FINALLY going to find out what happened during the Time War. They've been dancing around it for years.

I liked Eccelston as The Doctor. His distain towards the role, however, leaves much to be desired.

Not particularly happy to see Rose again, though. I was never a big fan.

Nov 14, 2013#469

Shawn

I was never a fan of Rose or Eccelston episodes. I don't necessarily want to blame the actors however. My biggest issue with the first 4 seasons (after 2005 reboot) was that Russell T Davies never saw the full potential for the show and had a completely different vision than Moffet. So many of his episodes lay on more cheese and stupidity than I could ever stand. It was like he was trying to recreate the campiness of the original series by using cheap effects and poor dialogue/writing. What he seems to have failed to realize was that the series was doing the best with what it had to try and create good quality TV. Compare his episodes with those written by Moffet and you'll see what I mean.

Nov 14, 2013#470

Bowielee

For me it was more the fact that they tried to shoehorn a romance. To me that's contrary to everything the Doctor is about. His companions should never been love interests.

Nov 14, 2013#471

ThatNickGuy

Bowielee said:
For me it was more the fact that they tried to shoehorn a romance. To me that's contrary to everything the Doctor is about. His companions should never been love interests.

I thought they have been on very rare occasions?

Nov 14, 2013#472

Bowielee

Not that I'm aware of. Not even Romana was romantically linked to him (I still want to know what the hell happened to her what with the Time War and everything).

Nov 14, 2013#473

evilmike

There certainly was some question about how he felt about Jo Grant

Nov 14, 2013#474

Shawn

Bowielee said:
For me it was more the fact that they tried to shoehorn a romance. To me that's contrary to everything the Doctor is about. His companions should never been love interests.

Still. That's the writing. Not the acting. Again very different on how Davies and Moffet see things. I still love how Amy Pond jumps the Doctor at the end of the episode, and he has absolutely no clue what that's all about for a while, and then freaks when he gets it.

Nov 14, 2013#475

ThatNickGuy

Shawnacy said:
Still. That's the writing. Not the acting. Again very different on how Davies and Moffet see things. I still love how Amy Pond jumps the Doctor at the end of the episode, and he has absolutely no clue what that's all about for a while, and then freaks when he gets it.

Let's be honest. He never really fully understood what was going on.

Nov 14, 2013#476

Shawn

ThatNickGuy said:
Let's be honest. He never really fully understood what was going on.

I think River Song was the perfect woman for the Doctor.

Nov 14, 2013#477

Reverent-one

Shawnacy said:
I think River Song was the perfect woman for the Doctor.

I'm sure Moffat would call her perfect too. In more ways than just for the Doctor.

Nov 14, 2013#478

Bubble181

Shawnacy said:
I think River Tam was the perfect woman for the Doctor.

What?

Nov 16, 2013#479

grub

Just watched the 8th Doctor movie. I'm not sure the guy who wrote it ever watched the original series. To me he looks like a hobbit. I enjoy the original series and the new series, but this to me is a one time thing.

Nov 16, 2013#480

Bowielee

grub said:
Just watched the 8th Doctor movie. I'm not sure the guy who wrote it ever watched the original series. To me he looks like a hobbit. I enjoy the original series and the new series, but this to me is a one time thing.

It was... not good. I don't think that's Paul McGann's fault at all, though. It was slow, plodding, and ultimately stupid (the Master as a brain slug of some kind? What the?).

Most people hate the fact that he only got the one terrible chance to play the Doctor, which is why it's nice that they're giving him a chance to reprise the role.

Nov 16, 2013#481

grub

Very true. It was missing its British charm. It seemed like FOX was going for a Buffy type action/drama thing instead of Doctor Who.

Nov 16, 2013#482

ThatNickGuy

The only good thing about that movie was Paul McGann. Which, as Bowie said, is why it was nice to see him reprise the role at least one more time. Apparently, a lot of the Doctor Who audio play work he did following the movie - which lasted for YEARS - is some good stuff.

Nov 16, 2013#483

Shawn

I think this is the best scene in the entire movie.

Nov 16, 2013#484

PatrThom

I remember taping it, watching it, and thinking how silly it was.
I do remember thinking that the guy playing The Doctor was doing his best to hold up the show, but wasn't getting much help.

--Patrick

Nov 16, 2013#485

Shawn

PatrThom said:
I remember taping it, watching it, and thinking how silly it was.
I do remember thinking that the guy playing The Doctor was doing his best to hold up the show, but wasn't getting much help.

--Patrick

This was back when the networks thought that American audiences just wouldn't get British shows and tried to do American reboots of them. Typically resulting in something gawd awful (Check for the American versions of Red Dwarf and Coupling if you don't believe me). Yeah they still do it for some shows such as The Office, but I think that Americans appreciate British television more across the board now.
Just be thankful FOX didn't get their wish and an American actor was hired to play the Doctor.

Nov 16, 2013#486

Bowielee

Shawnacy said:
This was back when the networks thought that American audiences just wouldn't get British shows and tried to do American reboots of them. Typically resulting in something gawd awful (Check for the American versions of Red Dwarf and Coupling if you don't believe me). Yeah they still do it for some shows such as The Office, but I think that Americans appreciate British television more across the board now.
Just be thankful FOX didn't get their wish and an American actor was hired to play the Doctor.

See, the thing about Coupling is that they didn't alter it in any way. The script for the pilot episode of Coupling was literally word for word exactly the same except for the obvious british terms like flat and such. It kind of goes to show how the cast itself makes a huge difference.

Nov 20, 2013#487

Dei

http://www.tor.com/blogs/2013/11/there-will-be-another-doctor-in-the-50th-anniversary-special

Nov 20, 2013#488

sixpackshaker

All you need to know about the Doctor, and then some.

Nov 23, 2013#489

sixpackshaker

Nov 23, 2013#490

Shawn

Watched "An Adventure in Time and Space". It was okay. The bit at the end where Matt Smith shows up was a little weird and uneccessary.

Nov 23, 2013#491

ThatNickGuy

Shawnacy said:
Watched "An Adventure in Time and Space". It was okay. The bit at the end where Matt Smith shows up was a little weird and uneccessary.

I kind of liked it. I get what they were trying to do: have Hartnell realize that Doctor Who would become a very big thing, beyond him, and him imagining what The Doctor might look like in the far future. In the same way, it was Matt Smith looking back and being proud of Hartnell for laying the groundwork for everyone. It was like Smith appeared to say "Thanks William." Personally, I think it would've worked better if we had somehow seen all the Doctors, or at least a large number of them.

One thing I didn't like was towards the end, when Hartnell cried, "I don't want to go." That's Tennant's line and should only be Tennant's. But I can't deny I teared up a little when he said it.

Nov 23, 2013#492

ThatNickGuy

If anyone else is itching for The Day of the Doctor today and need something to tide them over, how about ALL of the previous opening themes throughout 50 years?

Or how about footage of all the regenerations?

Nov 23, 2013#493

Shawn

ThatNickGuy said:
I kind of liked it. I get what they were trying to do: have Hartnell realize that Doctor Who would become a very big thing, beyond him, and him imagining what The Doctor might look like in the far future. In the same way, it was Matt Smith looking back and being proud of Hartnell for laying the groundwork for everyone. It was like Smith appeared to say "Thanks William." Personally, I think it would've worked better if we had somehow seen all the Doctors, or at least a large number of them.

One thing I didn't like was towards the end, when Hartnell cried, "I don't want to go." That's Tennant's line and should only be Tennant's. But I can't deny I teared up a little when he said it.

I agree about the more doctors thing. If the suriving doctors were all sitting around the control room and giving silent nods to Hartnell, I think that would have been better and a little less... prideful I guess? I get what you are saying, and it makes sense, but it does seem like the producers are somehow making Matt seem better than the rest. If they wanted to do a nod to the last doctor then they should have brought in the new guy.

I liked the "I don't want to go" line. I think it was a nice nod to the series. Plus his fear and sadness of leaving the show paralleled a doctor's regeneration nicely.

Nov 23, 2013#494

ThatNickGuy

Shawnacy said:
I agree about the more doctors thing. If the suriving doctors were all sitting around the control room and giving silent nods to Hartnell, I think that would have been better and a little less... prideful I guess? I get what you are saying, and it makes sense, but it does seem like the producers are somehow making Matt seem better than the rest. If they wanted to do a nod to the last doctor then they should have brought in the new guy.

I liked the "I don't want to go" line. I think it was a nice nod to the series. Plus his fear and sadness of leaving the show paralleled a doctor's regeneration nicely.

I wouldn't even say it was showing Smith as better than the rest. He's the current Doctor, the most recent, so it would make sense if he's (at least for the moment) the last Doctor up to date. Peter Capaldi hasn't been established as The Doctor yet, since he hasn't even had screen time. But yeah, as I said, I think it would've worked better if we'd seen other Doctors with Smith.

Nov 23, 2013#495

sixpackshaker

Just how much Acid does the BBC provide to the Opening Sequence Animators through the years?

Nov 23, 2013#496

Shawn

sixpackshaker said:
Just how much Acid does the BBC provide to the Opening Sequence Animators through the years?

They made some references to the opening in the Adventures in Time and Space movie. They said that it was a camera and light trick that they thought was pretty cool and they played around with it.[DOUBLEPOST=1385232855,1385232568][/DOUBLEPOST]That regeneration video needs to be updated.

Nov 23, 2013#497

HCGLNS

I literally cried watching the scene with the curator. There I was sitting with my daughter watching her Doctor trade lines with my Doctor.

Nov 23, 2013#498

figmentPez

I loved this episode. Now to face Tumblr where people will nit-pick all the little points I was too busy having fun to notice, in an attempt to tell me I didn't enjoy myself nearly as much as I did.

Nov 23, 2013#499

Ravenpoe

figmentPez said:
I loved this episode. Now to face Tumblr where people will nit-pick all the little points I was too busy having fun to notice, in an attempt to tell me I didn't enjoy myself nearly as much as I did.

Loved it. Could probably poke holes in it if I really wanted to, but I don't want to.

Not to wait until Christmas...

Nov 23, 2013#500

ThatNickGuy

It was okay. They went a little too overboard with the fan service, in my opinion. More behind spoiler text.

I really hated Tennant saying his last line again, especially after just hearing it on Adventures of Space & Time last night.

I also honestly don't like shoehorning John Hurt in with the rest of them. He was never a Doctor before and now he's officially part of the crowd, without ever having his own series or movie or anything. They honestly should've just brought Paul McGann for the same role, which seems even more like a good idea now that we saw him in that mini-episode. Shoehorning Hurt in there is honestly a bit of a spit in the face for fans because we had no fond memories of seeing him previously. Now, he's officially part of the 12 Doctors, at least according to that final shot.

I did laugh at the various things, like Tennant and Smith's interactions. It honestly felt like Tennant got the short end of the stick, though. Didn't really feel like he was there half the time and given lines here and there just to remind us he was there.

I don't know about anyone else, but the copy I..."obtained"...cut out to a grey screen for like 10 seconds right at the end just before they panned out to show all 13 Doctors. It did ruin the end for me, so it left me a little more bitter about everything than I probably would have ordinarily.

Really disappointed by the "big threat," since it all sort of quietly went away so we could rush to the finale. It did tie in well enough with the overall story, I guess, but again, it just felt like a shoe-horned separate episode compared to the bigger story.

But yeah, I don't know. The more I think about it, the less I like the episode. I got caught up in a lot of the moments as they happened, but I'm disappointed overall.

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