[TV] The Doctor Who Thread

BananaHands

BananaHands

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Also, are they building up to something with the music in the episodes?


Asylum - Carmen
Dinosaurs - Fantasia in D Both of which he mentioned having a hand (quite literally in the latter) in?
 
Calleja

Calleja

Just though this might be a good place to share what my next tattoo is going to be:



Around the arm/shoulder, generating from "behind" the 42 already tattoo'd on my left inside bicep. You guys have seen the 42, right?
 
Wahad

Wahad



"What're you doing here, son?''

Yet another amazing episode. Bit more serious than the last time, definitely a hell of a lot darker (even with last week's ending).

Goddamn but the Angry Doctor is definitely the Best Doctor, especially if it's Matt. The scene with him throwing Jex out of town, holding him at gunpoint and Amy's subsequent calling out of him (and the gun oh god I hope nobody got hurt, damnit Amy) was the highlight of the episode. Also, Susan :3
 
ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Full-on camp would be the Adam West Batman. This is more like very simple themes. Dalek asylum, dinosaurs on a spaceship, western. They're basically taking what, on the surface, is a very simple concept and just running with it.
 
Bowielee

Bowielee

Come on, the Mitchel and Webb bots, Nefertiti, the dinosaur playing fetch? That's as campy as Tim Curry in his Frankenfurter outfit.

I'm not saying that's a bad thing. Matter of fact, one of the original draws of the show was its camp factor.
 
ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

The show has always had a bit of "camp" behind it, though I would define it more as just silliness or fun. I knew that from very beginning, with the evil mannequins or the idea of an "old classic" song was Brittany Spears' Poison.

But it's still a show that's serious enough at most times that I wouldn't honestly categorize it as camp.
 
Norris

Norris

Bowielee said:
Camp is fun. I think you give that word a far more negative connotation than it has.
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I don't know, I've always viewed the word quite negatively. Mainly because I rarely hear it used to describe something good. Mostly? I hear it used to describe stuff like Batman & Robin.
 
Bowielee

Bowielee

Norris said:
I don't know, I've always viewed the word quite negatively. Mainly because I rarely hear it used to describe something good. Mostly? I hear it used to describe stuff like Batman & Robin.
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See, there's a huge difference between camp and crap. Here, I'll let wiki do the heavy lifting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_(style)

It's something that's exaggerated to the point of near ridiculousness. I'd say a big game hunter, Nefertiti, bumbling robots running around with dinosaurs that act like dogs firmly falls into that category.

Again, it's not BAD, it's campy.

Camp becomes bad when it's taken to an extreme to where it is beyond ridiculous, such as Batman and Robin. The original Batman TV series, that was FULL ON camp, but it was great because it was so ridiculous it wrapped back around to being fun.

The Hitchhiker's Guide and most "zany" stuff falls into the same category. It doesn't mean it's bad.

Just as a caveat, one of the reasons camp has taken on such a negative connotation is it's association with homosexuality and it's aesthetic being embraced by that community. This leads to one of the main reasons it is used as a derisive term.
 
Wahad

Wahad



The best episode so far, and the saddest.

While the ending was a bit rushed, the rest was really really good. The whole idea behind the cubes was ingenious (even if it got foiled but that's what the Doc's there for). And a few of the lines were making me really sad, like "Because you were the first face this face ever saw" and "Not them, Brian. Never them." Also, I want one of those cubes.
 
ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Good episode, overall, but I didn't enjoy it as much as previous episodes this season.

More thoughts behind the spoiler:


1) I was angry and sad all at once with the ending. Sad because that's the last we see of Rory and Amy (though I'll bet they'll figure a way to return for short stints, like Rose). Angry because...well, I liked those characters, even though their storyarc is over.

2) I didn't like how we basically saw Amy's sacrifice thing twice.

3) As cool as the cherubs and Liberty angels were, they honestly didn't really do anything of note. The Liberty angel makes no sense, even though they kind of HAD to do it. I mean, who in New York wouldn't see the Statue of frigging Liberty walking down Broadway?

4) The ending, after Rory & Amy "die" felt rushed. Though I did like the fable-like ending where we hear about some of Amy's adventures. It ties back in with her treating The Doctor as an imaginary friend, where we began.

5) THE DOCTOR NEVER WORE A FEDORA!!! How the hell do you send him back to the late 30s and not have him wear a fedora?!

All of these are minor nitpicks at best. It was still a very good episode, overall.
 
SpecialKO

SpecialKO

Totally localized nitpick:

Even if you removed all the buildings in-between, the Chrysler Building is not going to look anywhere near that large from Battery Park/tip of Manhattan. It's a skyscraper, yes, but it's 5 miles away. It won't even be close to that size.
 
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