[TV] The Doctor Who Thread

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Shawnacy said:
Watched "An Adventure in Time and Space". It was okay. The bit at the end where Matt Smith shows up was a little weird and uneccessary.
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I kind of liked it. I get what they were trying to do: have Hartnell realize that Doctor Who would become a very big thing, beyond him, and him imagining what The Doctor might look like in the far future. In the same way, it was Matt Smith looking back and being proud of Hartnell for laying the groundwork for everyone. It was like Smith appeared to say "Thanks William." Personally, I think it would've worked better if we had somehow seen all the Doctors, or at least a large number of them.

One thing I didn't like was towards the end, when Hartnell cried, "I don't want to go." That's Tennant's line and should only be Tennant's. But I can't deny I teared up a little when he said it.
 
ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

If anyone else is itching for The Day of the Doctor today and need something to tide them over, how about ALL of the previous opening themes throughout 50 years?



Or how about footage of all the regenerations?

 
Shawn

Shawn

ThatNickGuy said:
I kind of liked it. I get what they were trying to do: have Hartnell realize that Doctor Who would become a very big thing, beyond him, and him imagining what The Doctor might look like in the far future. In the same way, it was Matt Smith looking back and being proud of Hartnell for laying the groundwork for everyone. It was like Smith appeared to say "Thanks William." Personally, I think it would've worked better if we had somehow seen all the Doctors, or at least a large number of them.

One thing I didn't like was towards the end, when Hartnell cried, "I don't want to go." That's Tennant's line and should only be Tennant's. But I can't deny I teared up a little when he said it.
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I agree about the more doctors thing. If the suriving doctors were all sitting around the control room and giving silent nods to Hartnell, I think that would have been better and a little less... prideful I guess? I get what you are saying, and it makes sense, but it does seem like the producers are somehow making Matt seem better than the rest. If they wanted to do a nod to the last doctor then they should have brought in the new guy.

I liked the "I don't want to go" line. I think it was a nice nod to the series. Plus his fear and sadness of leaving the show paralleled a doctor's regeneration nicely.
 
ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Shawnacy said:
I agree about the more doctors thing. If the suriving doctors were all sitting around the control room and giving silent nods to Hartnell, I think that would have been better and a little less... prideful I guess? I get what you are saying, and it makes sense, but it does seem like the producers are somehow making Matt seem better than the rest. If they wanted to do a nod to the last doctor then they should have brought in the new guy.

I liked the "I don't want to go" line. I think it was a nice nod to the series. Plus his fear and sadness of leaving the show paralleled a doctor's regeneration nicely.
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I wouldn't even say it was showing Smith as better than the rest. He's the current Doctor, the most recent, so it would make sense if he's (at least for the moment) the last Doctor up to date. Peter Capaldi hasn't been established as The Doctor yet, since he hasn't even had screen time. But yeah, as I said, I think it would've worked better if we'd seen other Doctors with Smith.
 
Shawn

Shawn

sixpackshaker said:
Just how much Acid does the BBC provide to the Opening Sequence Animators through the years?
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They made some references to the opening in the Adventures in Time and Space movie. They said that it was a camera and light trick that they thought was pretty cool and they played around with it.[DOUBLEPOST=1385232855,1385232568][/DOUBLEPOST]That regeneration video needs to be updated.
 
HCGLNS

HCGLNS

I literally cried watching the scene with the curator. There I was sitting with my daughter watching her Doctor trade lines with my Doctor.
 
figmentPez

figmentPez

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I loved this episode. Now to face Tumblr where people will nit-pick all the little points I was too busy having fun to notice, in an attempt to tell me I didn't enjoy myself nearly as much as I did.
 
Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

figmentPez said:
I loved this episode. Now to face Tumblr where people will nit-pick all the little points I was too busy having fun to notice, in an attempt to tell me I didn't enjoy myself nearly as much as I did.
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Loved it. Could probably poke holes in it if I really wanted to, but I don't want to.

Not to wait until Christmas...
 
ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

It was okay. They went a little too overboard with the fan service, in my opinion. More behind spoiler text.

I really hated Tennant saying his last line again, especially after just hearing it on Adventures of Space & Time last night.

I also honestly don't like shoehorning John Hurt in with the rest of them. He was never a Doctor before and now he's officially part of the crowd, without ever having his own series or movie or anything. They honestly should've just brought Paul McGann for the same role, which seems even more like a good idea now that we saw him in that mini-episode. Shoehorning Hurt in there is honestly a bit of a spit in the face for fans because we had no fond memories of seeing him previously. Now, he's officially part of the 12 Doctors, at least according to that final shot.

I did laugh at the various things, like Tennant and Smith's interactions. It honestly felt like Tennant got the short end of the stick, though. Didn't really feel like he was there half the time and given lines here and there just to remind us he was there.

I don't know about anyone else, but the copy I..."obtained"...cut out to a grey screen for like 10 seconds right at the end just before they panned out to show all 13 Doctors. It did ruin the end for me, so it left me a little more bitter about everything than I probably would have ordinarily.

Really disappointed by the "big threat," since it all sort of quietly went away so we could rush to the finale. It did tie in well enough with the overall story, I guess, but again, it just felt like a shoe-horned separate episode compared to the bigger story.

But yeah, I don't know. The more I think about it, the less I like the episode. I got caught up in a lot of the moments as they happened, but I'm disappointed overall.
 
Thread Necromancer

Thread Necromancer

wait.....
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enjoy....
hold on. I stopped this in the middle simple to put this question out. From what I see right this moment, we have a paradox coming. the older doctor, the coming doctor, is the one involved in the time war, not the doctors before him. I will likely edit and delete this post as I continue to watch
 
DarkAudit

DarkAudit

Is it just me, or did the passing of Mary Tamm (Romana I) go completely unnoticed?

She died in July of last year. Not a word of it in any thread. :(

(Sadder still, her husband died just hours after her funeral.)
 
Shawn

Shawn

I can't say that it bothers me that Hurt is part of the line-up. At all. The Doctor has always been a peaceful man. He's always wanted to make sure that he beat back evil by not resorting to evil himself. The "War Doctor" did not stick to this belief, as we are lead to believe initially. As far as the 9th, 10th and 11th Doctors were concerned, the "War Doctor" was a part of himself that he never wanted to admit to anyone in having. He killed his entire people doing what he believed to be the right thing. And since then he's been wallowing in self hatred over the event. And regardless of the fact that history has changed (or stayed the same depending how you want to interpret it) Gallifrey was saved and the Time Lords live on through the efforts of the Doctor, except only the 11th Doctor (now 12th) remembers any of it. So now, finally, he's free of the guilt. Does this mean that he's now officially the 12th Doctor? Sure. Why the hell not?
Your author complains that we can't accept him as a Doctor, because we don't have any moments to remember him by. Well when any of the Doctors first stepped onto the screen, did we refuse to believe they were the Doctor just because they hadn't appeared previously? He mentions the Paul McGann TV movie, saying that at least we have that to remember the 8th Doctor. Well John Hurt officially has made a TV movie, just like #8.
For years fans have been left wondering what happened between 8 and 9. Well we got the answer, and it was a great opportunity to set up a major plot changer like that.
 
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Eriol

Eriol

One thing I've been wondering, is how they got from "inside the doctor's timeline" (or whatever that was) in the episode before the 50th special, to where the 50th special started. That part is what's still bugging me.
 
Bowielee

Bowielee

Loved the special. It looked AWESOME in 3D.

I have absolutely no issue with Hurt being one of the Doctor's regenerations. As mentioned previously, McGann is considered just as much part of the lineup as anyone else and he had just as little time playing the Doctor as Hurt has. Hell, McGann had terrible continuity breaking stuff going on in his TV movie (Master brain slug, anyone?), so I don't see why he would get more slack than Hurt would.
 
Kovac

Kovac

I think it plays really well into the idea that this incarnation of the Doctor was a dark one of necessity. Of course we don't get to see his adventures because that's not what he was up to over that lifetime. He was conducting a despicable bloody war.

I think you could have had Paul McGann's fill the same role but I think it was a lot more interesting this way.

Not to mention the potential for some very interesting stories in the future as fallout from the change.
 
Shawn

Shawn

The only thing I don't get is...
...that at the end of the 50th they save Gallifray by basically making it look like it and all the time lords were destroyed. Effectively keeping the story-line consistent to what has transpired before, but with a glimmer of hope at the end that they can be saved some day. But here is where I'm concerned: In the continuity every single Time Lord was destroyed by The Doctor. He used The Moment to wipe them all out, no matter where they may be in the universe. Instead however he never used The Moment and instead made the entire planet disappear. The only other Time Lord to survive that was The Master, because he technically was human at the time. I doubt highly that every Time Lord could have been on the planet at that very moment, especially considering they have time/space machines. However The Doctor makes it very clear that ALL of the Time Lords were wiped out, with the exception of the few that made it outside of the universe and fell pray to the TARDIS eating planet from "The Doctor's Wife". So that part of the continuity can't be consistent. Surely by now he would have run into another Time Lord.
 
Dei

Dei

Shawnacy said:
The only thing I don't get is... * SPOILER *
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In the whole "4 knocks" episode, we see Gallifrey getting freed from the moment as well don't we? Or was that the split second before it? I don't remember the exact mechanics...
 
Shawn

Shawn

Dei said:
In the whole "4 knocks" episode, we see Gallifrey getting freed from the moment as well don't we? Or was that the split second before it? I don't remember the exact mechanics...
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If I remember correctly that episode showed a faction of the Time Lords using The Master as an anchor that they could pull themselves free from the Time Lock that was keeping them from escaping their fate.
 
Tiger Tsang

Tiger Tsang

Alrighty, I was joking around on FB with some friends about the Doctor. I linked up Craig Ferguson's skit to a post I made and then I noticed this.

How did I not know this awesomeness existed?!?
 
Celt Z

Celt Z

I thought I'd be more upset about Matt leaving, but I find I'm pretty okay with it. It doesn't hit me as hard as losing David Tennant. Maybe it was the uneven (but still enjoyable) recent season.
I'm really looking forward to seeing what Peter Capaldi will do with the role. It's been a while since we had a older Doctor, and I'm hoping the writers will stop falling back on comely companion/Doctor "romantic tension" they've come to rely on with 10 and 11. I think that's why I like Donna as a companion; it felt like two friends jumping around the universe rather than the "will they/don't they" they already answered with Rose, and then kept trying to repeat with Martha, Amy and Clara.
 
Shawn

Shawn

I enjoyed the "romantic tension" between 11 and Amy, because there wasn't really any at all. Amy was hot for the Doctor all right, but he was actually rather weirded out by it. If you're referring to his relationship with River, I think that one was done rather well. River was only a guest star, showing up every few episodes at most. Which made their relationship more realistic, because they are such independent souls. They like to travel and explore, and having each other around for every adventure would only becomes stale and repetitive for them.

I love Matt Smith. He's probably my favorite Doctor (only outdoing 10 and 4 by a smidge). That being said I have no real issue with him leaving. I think that the show needs a new change, and it sounds like they are letting Matt Smith go with a huge bang. So I'm not displeased. Especially after such an amazing 50th anniversary.
 
Celt Z

Celt Z

There were times I felt like The Doctor led Amy on, or returned her flirting, which always bother me because a) he met her as a child and b) he would sometimes do it right in front of Rory. (Also, I love Rory. Amy would get on my nerves sometimes, but I think the addition of Rory redeemed her in my eyes.) And it's funny you mention River, since I always felt she had the least romantic chemistry with the Doctor, even though I though she was one of the best characters/companions/closest to the Doctor's equal. Even their wedding episode, to me, the "love" between them never felt like an organic development. It was more like the writers wrote themselves into a corner with it, and "well, we said she's his wife, so I guess we have to show the wedding". I think Alex Kingston is great in the role, and I do love how she calls him "Sweetie" and get under his skin, but I still don't understand why they had to be married. I feel like she's good with the Doctor in the way that Jack is good with the Doctor: they're great to have around because they understand so much more about the Doctor's perspective on time traveling and universe than the usual companions, but they're personalities are so different that the Doctor, they give him insights he wouldn't have on his own.
 
Dei

Dei

If you want to play the meta game, they had to get married so that the Doctor could tell her his name so that she had proof that she knew the Doctor in Silence in the Library.

Also, I hate Amy Pond. I feel it's a very unpopular opinion, but I couldn't stand her. I *loved* Rory, he's my second favorite companion behind Donna, but *ugh* Amy Pond just irritated me to no end.
 
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