Netflix becoming Qwikster

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So, after the separation if pricing for dvds and streaming, netflix is officially splitting their product into two separate entities, netflix for streaming, qwikster for dvds by mail. This also means two separate websites, which will no longer be integrated.

For me, this is more upsetting than the price change. I use both, I LIKE having them integrated.
 
I switched to streaming only when they raised their prices but I still think it is a stupid idea to split the two sections.
 
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Sigh @ this. It's so dumb. I like only needing to go to one place. WHAT ARE YOU THINKING NETFLIX?!
 
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A bit more seriously, though - They are very likely doing this largely because they found it difficult to make agreements with their suppliers (studios) for the two portions of their business separately.

For instance, studios allow netflix to press their own DVDs and Blu-rays at a steep discount based on profit sharing. In other words they give the studio a few pennies from each "rental" rather than $20 per copy - this means they can press a few thousand copies of popular movies, but only pay for the actual usage of those disks, rather than a fixed cost per disk - it also means less loss when a disk is scratched, lost, or stolen. Further it reduces theft because the discs no longer have the special features - one of the reasons the studios allow such a discount, by segmenting the rental market away from the purchase market.

To the point, though, they previously were happy to include "streaming" in the same contracts they made for their disc pressing. In fact they were probably able to set the contract up in their favor since streaming would have similar cost/usage ratio.

Well, the studios now have the upper hand in terms of streaming (more streaming distributors, such as cable companies, telco, etc) and they want to charge more.

It's not longer in netflix best interest to combine the contracts, but of course the studios will make their demands anyway. By separating the companies, netflix is specifically making certain the contracts don't affect each other (which is also a big deal since the physical plants of DVD sending and network operations are differently expensed anyway, and should be accounted differently).

So there are a number of corporate, legal, and financial reasons to split the two apart.

But it's a very "corporate" move that has no benefit for the consumers.
 
I love the fact that their CEO "apologized" for making a "mistake" when he announced the price changes back in July. His explanation of the mistake, as he saw it, was that he didn't announce it well. I don't think he understands that the explanation of the mistake, as most of his customers saw it, was that they announced great new pricing that increased our costs, some of us by up to 60%. That's not a problem of announcing something poorly, that's a problem of not understanding math.
 
I may actually give Qwikster a shot, if they can beat Gamefly in ether price, service, or number of copies. I've REALLY wanted to be able to rent stuff from a single source.

As for Netflix... you can really blame the publishers. They saw how much Netlifx was making from streaming and wanted more from the pie, which they got. Netflix really didn't have much of a choice about raising prices if they wanted to keep expanding the service.
 
I may actually give Qwikster a shot, if they can beat Gamefly in ether price, service, or number of copies. I've REALLY wanted to be able to rent stuff from a single source.
Yeah I'll probably look into it as well. Gamefly has become somewhat complacent. They don't use the same algorithms that Netflix does regarding wait lists for high demand releases. Basically, if it doesn't say "Available Now", you're not getting it. Not even sure why they have wait times listed. In 3+ years I have NEVER gotten a release within 3 months of release date. I don't burn through my lists either. I think my shortest turnaround on a game has been at least a month. One of the few perks with GF was a $5 credit every three months where I could usually pick up a decent recent game used for about $15-20, but the last 4-5 months they haven't even had ANY used games available. Hell that used to even be in their commercials - "If you like it, click keep it & we'll ship the case to you".

We'll see how Quikster does. The way they're going they may very well price themselves out of this market as well.
 
Maybe they'll have a games-only option. I hate the game-queue-song-and-dance-to-stack-the-algorithm thing you have to do for Gamefly to get anything that's come out within the last 6 month reliably that's even remotely popular (been seriously waiting 4 month for Mass Effect 2; they might actually push me to just buy it for $20 at Target).
 
Anyone else think this is gonna end in a New Coke kinda way. Like after a few months Netflix will admit Qwikster is an unpopular change and the DVD service will become Netflix Classic.
 
Meh. We are all digital and paying 7 or 8 bucks from streaming from netflix is not only worth the cost but honestly a pretty damn good deal.
 
Am I bad, bad person for enjoying the fact that when Netflix first announced their new price plans, their stock was at or above $300.00 a share, and now it's at $132 and falling fast (and has fallen $20+ since the CEO's "apology")? I mean, sure, the economy doesn't need any more negatives than it already has, but this just looks like a classic case of people voicing their opinion with their money.
 
I would imagine Netflix will sell Qwikstar first chance they get and go with streaming only. And with the convenience of Redbox and Blockbuster kiosks with movie rentals for $1 it only makes sense. From what I read when Netflix tried to negotiate fees for streaming content the studios were looking at the number of members instead of the volume of streaming. By breaking off the DVD portion they can get a true number of members. For Netflix to survive they have to get better (and more current) content for streaming. By breaking off DVD's their hope is they can offer more current streaming content. Honestly, if they could get current movies a month or two after they hit DVD I would pay twice the amount for streaming content.
 
I would imagine Netflix will sell Qwikstar first chance they get and go with streaming only. And with the convenience of Redbox and Blockbuster kiosks with movie rentals for $1 it only makes sense. From what I read when Netflix tried to negotiate fees for streaming content the studios were looking at the number of members instead of the volume of streaming. By breaking off the DVD portion they can get a true number of members. For Netflix to survive they have to get better (and more current) content for streaming. By breaking off DVD's their hope is they can offer more current streaming content. Honestly, if they could get current movies a month or two after they hit DVD I would pay twice the amount for streaming content.
I'm more concerned about older movies myself. Netflix has been convenient in that I can see older movies, the stuff you don't find in Redbox, without having to buy them. And TV shows too, on streaming. It's a lot of difficult stuff to juggle. I wish it could've just stayed the way it was.
 
I'm more concerned about older movies myself. Netflix has been convenient in that I can see older movies, the stuff you don't find in Redbox, without having to buy them. And TV shows too, on streaming. It's a lot of difficult stuff to juggle. I wish it could've just stayed the way it was.
Me too.

"Hey, I've never seen the Reanimator. Is it available for streaming?"
-no, but it's on DVD-
"Alright, to the top of the queue! That was so easy and convenient.
 
I'm more concerned about older movies myself. Netflix has been convenient in that I can see older movies, the stuff you don't find in Redbox, without having to buy them. And TV shows too, on streaming. It's a lot of difficult stuff to juggle. I wish it could've just stayed the way it was.
Same here. There are movies that redbox will simply never carry.
 
Is there actually any other company that offers both streaming and dvd-by-mail besides Netflix/Quickster?

Blockbuster is by mail only and pay-per-rent on-demand, Hulu, vudu, and Cinema Now is streaming only with not a huge catalog.
 
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