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[Officer_Charon]

Thank you for clarification. And, yes... the young man is done. If found guilty, he could be charged as an adult (Down here, 17 and up goes to big boy jail, I believe AL charges 16 as adults), as well as being required to register as a sex offender upon release. Needless to say, this is not going to help his chances for future employment.

I hope your niece can get all the help she needs from this...

What's the boy's story? Flat-out denial, or is he stating it was consensual? (If I may? If not, then disregard.)

 

[Dave]

What's the boy's story? Flat-out denial, or is he stating it was consensual? (If I may? If not, then disregard.)

At this time it's unknown to me.

 

[Denbrought]

D: Cripes.

 

[Chibibar]

Thank you for clarification. And, yes... the young man is done. If found guilty, he could be charged as an adult (Down here, 17 and up goes to big boy jail, I believe AL charges 16 as adults), as well as being required to register as a sex offender upon release. Needless to say, this is not going to help his chances for future employment.

I hope your niece can get all the help she needs from this...

What's the boy's story? Flat-out denial, or is he stating it was consensual? (If I may? If not, then disregard.)

Employment? heck, in the internet age, he would have a hard time finding a place to live (at least with minimal harassment)

My neighborhood would be off limits to him since I am like 5 minutes from elementary, 10 minute (all walking distance) from Jr. High and community college. The plus side there is a police station 15 minutes walk from my place

 

[CrimsonSoul]

I had a neighbor that recently moved out that wa a sex offender she was 29 and the kid was 15. We live within walking distance of an elementary and a middle school so I dunno if she was suppose to be able to live there or not now. Her house was a dump too

 

[Dave]

New info. The attack happened Friday or Saturday. DNA has come back. It's him. There is also physical damage done to Victim. It is not an act of coercion, but instead one of force.

 

[CrimsonSoul]

Throw the book at him! And then put him in prison

 

[LittleSin]

That...now that really is terrible.

 

[Espy]

 

[Frank]

Well, that's hell.

 

[makare]

Well, from a legal stand point that'll make the case easier. Terrible ordeal for everyone involved though.

 

[Jay]

Scumbag

 

[ThatNickGuy]

If I ever become a father, this is the sort of situation I'd be terrified to encounter. Not just in what I could have done differently, but in how I'd react. My immediate thought involves a baseball bat.

 

[Tress]

Scumbag

This sums up my reaction quite nicely.

 

[Cajungal]

If I ever become a father, this is the sort of situation I'd be terrified to encounter. Not just in what I could have done differently, but in how I'd react. My immediate thought involves a baseball bat.

Gotta agree with you there. I don't generally talk about what kinds of violent things I'd do to people who have wronged others, but when it comes to loved ones, there's no question. Stuff like that can make you crazy.

I hope that she gets through this okay. What a nightmare.

 

[bhamv3]

Well... shit.

 

[Chibibar]

I hope she does get the help she needs cause it can be pretty traumatizing. I hope she learn from the experience and make herself stronger and better and not shelter herself. This of course depends on the parents involved. The guy is pretty much f-up at this point. Since the law was brought into the scene, his life is pretty much mess up from the collective social point of view.

Family cohesion is really mess up and I feel sorry for Dave for having to deal with both side at this point. It is a rough spot buddy and I pray everyone will come out better after some time has pass.

The only advice I can give is that please make sure to help the girl and don't let her close off. Don't let her "enclose" herself from this event. Yea, I know that society can be cruel on rape victim (especially with the history you gave us Dave), but let her know she is being supported and don't let this event rule her life. It is a lesson in life, it is a major change of event on her life, but don't let it rule her life. If she let it, it is going to be rough on her cause she will become mistrustful (if that is a word) toward others. She may wall up her emotional and physical from the rest of the world.

 

[North_Ranger]

Okay, I'm not a law enforcement officer, but based on that Wikipedia list it doesn't necessarily prove it was rape. The rape kit appears to be able to prove intercourse occurred, but how does it show it was non-consensual? For example, the guy's skin cells underneath her fingernails, there are lots of ways they could have ended up there, either during intercourse or simply during horseplay between cousins.

I haven't checked if this has been answered, but here's how I've heard it goes (based on some TV crime show I saw once): vaginal tearing. If it's consensual, the tearing is lesser and located in a different part of the vagina than in non-consensual sex.

 

[North_Ranger]

Also, after having read the entire thread...

I remain in my opinion that rapists are among the lowest forms of life, somewhere between single-cell organisms and lawyers. This boy (I refuse to call him a man since no real man would ever do something like that to a woman), albeit kin, needs to be correctioned the hell out of.

Dave, my best regards to your family and the victim and his family. I'm no praying man, but I'll hope all the best for her, and hope she gets all the help she needs.

 

[Dave]

The hardest part of the whole thing is I still like him. He did a deplorable and unforgivable thing, yet I know he's just a scared kid. No, I'm not being apologist. I don't know how to feel about it, to tell the truth.

He did it. It was terrible. She's damaged probably for the rest of her life. But I still can't bring myself to hate him. Were they complete strangers and I heard about it I would be talking like all of you calling him scum and stuff like that...but I can't. Maybe I'm in some sort of shocked denial, but until this I liked him a lot and felt sorry for his lot in life.

Of course, I feel more sorry for Victim, Victim's mom and Abuser's dad. Abuser's dad is a very, very kind man and this is killing him. He's always been the guy that helps out, never says anything bad about anyone and always wanted to do his best for Abuser even as Abuser's mom took Abuser away and moved to a new city. Abuser's dad followed so he could get a job in the new city and stay close to his son as much as he could.

Just a messed up situation all around.

 

[LittleSin]

Well, even rapists have friends and family. They just don't...stop being people.

 

[Chibibar]

The hardest part of the whole thing is I still like him. He did a deplorable and unforgivable thing, yet I know he's just a scared kid. No, I'm not being apologist. I don't know how to feel about it, to tell the truth.

He did it. It was terrible. She's damaged probably for the rest of her life. But I still can't bring myself to hate him. Were they complete strangers and I heard about it I would be talking like all of you calling him scum and stuff like that...but I can't. Maybe I'm in some sort of shocked denial, but until this I liked him a lot and felt sorry for his lot in life.

Of course, I feel more sorry for Victim, Victim's mom and Abuser's dad. Abuser's dad is a very, very kind man and this is killing him. He's always been the guy that helps out, never says anything bad about anyone and always wanted to do his best for Abuser even as Abuser's mom took Abuser away and moved to a new city. Abuser's dad followed so he could get a job in the new city and stay close to his son as much as he could.

Just a messed up situation all around.

I guess the hard part to understand is why he did it? why? The dad seems like a really cool guy so why the boy did it? He needs some serious help, but sadly I think from this point on, the family will be his only true friends after his name is added to sex offender's list (will it? if it is, the boy's life is screwed)

The victim's life would be just as hard, but unlike being on the list, the victim can eventually move on from the ordeal and hopefully live a normal life with proper help.
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Well, even rapists have friends and family. They just don't...stop being people.

true. but for a moment, that boy did stop being a person and became an animal for an instant

 

[Espy]

I don't think it's weird to feel the way you feel Dave. This is so true:

Well, even rapists have friends and family. They just don't...stop being people.

 

[Chippy]

Edit: I'm a dumbass that can't read a full thread.

 

[Charlie Don't Surf]

Dave's 16 year old nephew raped Dave's 15 year old niece. They are cousins.