2011 College Football Thread
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When I get frustrated at work, I do vanity projects. Today's vanity projects: calculating the BCS standings about a week before they come out for real. One of the computer ratings is still unavailable until Sunday, but other than that, these ratings are accurate as of today:
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|---------Overall BCS-----|--Coach Poll-|----Harris---|------Computer Ratings------|
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| # Team Score |Rank Score |Rank Score | JS BI MA CO AH Score |
| 1 Alabama 0.9614 | 3 0.9485 | 2 0.9489 | 1 2 1 1 2 0.9867 |
| 2 LSU 0.9512 | 2 0.9553 | 1 0.9784 | 2 1 5 4 3 0.9200 |
| 3 Oklahoma 0.9498 | 1 0.9722 | 3 0.9440 | 3 3 3 2 1 0.9333 |
| 4 Oklahoma State 0.8240 | 7 0.7919 | 6 0.8000 | 5 5 2 3 4 0.8800 |
| 5 Boise State 0.8039 | 6 0.7932 | 5 0.8184 | 7 4 6 7 5 0.8000 |
| 6 Wisconsin 0.7542 | 4 0.8434 | 4 0.8459 | 6 7 14 14 15 0.5733 |
| 7 Clemson 0.7498 | 8 0.7092 | 8 0.7270 | 4 6 4 8 7 0.8133 |
| 8 Stanford 0.7181 | 5 0.8353 | 7 0.7990 | 15 9 23 12 12 0.5200 |
| 9 Michigan 0.6100 | 10 0.6041 | 10 0.5993 | 13 17 12 5 6 0.6267 |
|10 Georgia Tech 0.5832 | 12 0.5458 | 12 0.5638 | 10 23 9 10 10 0.6400 |
|11 Arkansas 0.5796 | 11 0.5905 | 11 0.5882 | 9 10 10 21 16 0.5600 |
|12 Illinois 0.5110 | 15 0.4298 | 14 0.4365 | 8 13 11 9 8 0.6667 |
|13 Oregon 0.4894 | 9 0.6746 | 9 0.6602 | 16 8 -- -- -- 0.1333 |
|14 Kansas State 0.4447 | 18 0.3132 | 17 0.3541 | 11 12 8 6 9 0.6667 |
|15 South Carolina 0.4251 | 13 0.4597 | 15 0.4157 | -- 20 13 15 13 0.4000 |
|16 Nebraska 0.3814 | 14 0.4549 | 13 0.4494 | 17 11 24 22 21 0.2400 |
|17 Virginia Tech 0.3122 | 17 0.3546 | 18 0.3287 | 21 18 18 23 20 0.2533 |
|18 Texas 0.3067 | 21 0.1647 | 20 0.1955 | 14 -- 7 11 11 0.5600 |
|19 Arizona State 0.2600 | 20 0.2325 | 19 0.2543 | 18 15 19 19 19 0.2933 |
|20 West Virginia 0.2582 | 16 0.3580 | 16 0.3899 | 24 -- -- -- 23 0.0267 |
|21 Baylor 0.1956 | 24 0.1254 | 21 0.1948 | -- 24 15 17 17 0.2667 |
|22 Michigan State 0.1548 | 19 0.2922 | 22 0.1722 | -- 25 -- -- -- 0.0000 |
|23 Houston 0.1481 | 22 0.1356 | 24 0.0953 | -- -- 22 13 14 0.2133 |
|24 Texas A&M 0.1115 | 23 0.1342 | 23 0.1203 | 25 21 20 -- -- 0.0800 |
|25 Auburn 0.0964 | 29 0.0224 | 26 0.0668 | 12 16 21 -- -- 0.2000 |
|-------------------------|-------------|-------------|----------------------------|It's mostly because the computer rankings can't factor in margin of victory at all, and Wisconsin has only played one league game, so the SOS is terrible with their OOC opponents.
Here's what I came up with (sans the Wolfe Ratings):
* - Includes only five of the six ratings; the Wolfe Rankings are automatically registered as the minimum ranking of 0.
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RK Team CNDV GP OW OL OW% USATC CP% Harris HP% CMP%* BCS%
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1 Alabama SECW 6 6 0 1.000 1399 .88825 2728 .95719 .98000 .94182
2 Oklahoma BG12 5 5 0 1.000 1434 .91048 2714 .95228 .93000 .93092
3 Louisiana State SECW 6 6 0 1.000 1409 .89460 2813 .98702 .90000 .92721
4 Oklahoma State BG12 5 5 0 1.000 1168 .74159 2300 .80702 .87000 .80620
5 Boise State MTWE 5 5 0 1.000 1170 .74286 2353 .82561 .79000 .78616
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6 Clemson ACCA 6 6 0 1.000 1046 .66413 2090 .73333 .79000 .72915
7 Wisconsin BTLD 5 5 0 1.000 1244 .78984 2432 .85333 .54000 .72772
8 Stanford P12N 5 5 0 1.000 1232 .78222 2297 .80596 .42000 .66940
9 Michigan BTLG 6 6 0 1.000 891 .56571 1723 .60456 .56000 .57676
10 Arkansas SECW 6 5 1 0.833 871 .55302 1691 .59333 .47000 .53878
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11 Georgia Tech ACCC 6 6 0 1.000 805 .51111 1621 .56877 .51000 .52996
12 Illinois BTLD 6 6 0 1.000 634 .40254 1255 .44035 .63000 .49096
13 Oregon P12N 5 4 1 0.800 955 .60635 1898 .66596 .10000 .45744
14 Kansas State BG12 5 5 0 1.000 462 .29333 1018 .35719 .64000 .43018
15 South Carolina SECE 6 5 1 0.833 678 .43048 1195 .41930 .30000 .38326
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16 Nebraska BTLG 6 5 1 0.833 671 .42603 1292 .45333 .20000 .35979
17 Virginia Tech ACCC 6 5 1 0.833 523 .33206 945 .33158 .22000 .29455
18 Texas BG12 5 4 1 0.800 243 .15429 562 .19719 .42000 .25716
19 Arizona State P12S 6 5 1 0.833 343 .21778 731 .25649 .29000 .25476
20 West Virginia BGEA 6 5 1 0.833 528 .33524 1121 .39333 .02000 .24952
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21 Baylor BG12 5 4 1 0.800 185 .11746 560 .19649 .20000 .17132
22 Michigan State BTLG 5 4 1 0.800 431 .27365 495 .17368 .00000 .14911
23 Houston CUSW 6 6 0 1.000 200 .12698 274 .09614 .16000 .12771
24 Texas A&M BG12 5 3 2 0.600 198 .12571 346 .12140 .06000 .10237
25 Penn State BTLD 6 5 1 0.833 77 .04889 88 .03088 .17000 .08326
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FUCK ALABAMA FOREVER, FUCK ALL OF 'EM FUCK ALL THAT CRIMSON TIDE BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUULLSHIT
Dang it OU. I thought this was your year for sure. Oh, well. At least Texas has sucked it up. BOOMER!
Can someone please knock LSU down a peg or two?
Can someone please knock LSU down a peg or two?
I suppose Ark could pull of a major upset, but I highly doubt it. OU has smashed Okstate's dreams before, but w/o Broyles, I don't think that'll happen either.
If basketball can have playoffs, why can't college fb? Just extend the season into early spring.
Because the Student Athletes have to study for finals.
...I'm sorry, I still can't type that with a straight face.
I've never understood it: I-AA (aka I-FCS), Division II and Division III have absolutely no problem having playoffs, but the 120 BCS teams do. Of course, it comes at a price - I believe all non-BCS college teams play only 10 or 11 games before the playoffs start.
...I'm sorry, I still can't type that with a straight face.
I've never understood it: I-AA (aka I-FCS), Division II and Division III have absolutely no problem having playoffs, but the 120 BCS teams do. Of course, it comes at a price - I believe all non-BCS college teams play only 10 or 11 games before the playoffs start.
My I-AA school is headed to the playoffs as a ranked team, YAY me.
The reason for the BCS is simple, money and tradition. The 4 formally 5 major bowl games make a lot of money, and they all have been around since at least the mid 30's and the Rose Bowl was first played in 1918.
The reason for the BCS is simple, money and tradition. The 4 formally 5 major bowl games make a lot of money, and they all have been around since at least the mid 30's and the Rose Bowl was first played in 1918.
I would like to see a top 4 playoff. Would extend the season by 1 game. That would be about as fair as you could get it without a major overhaul of the system. As far as this season I would be happy with any two of the top four matching up. I would like to see OSU's offense against a SEC defense. I think Alabama's defense is better than LSU's but it would be nice to see an OSU/LSU match up pitting Les Miles against the team he bailed on. But a LSU/Oregon rematch would be great. Oregon is playing a hell of a lot better than they were during their first game. I love college football. I can find a great match up every Saturday.
I wouldn't mind seeing Okstate/LSU, as long as Okstate stomps LSU. I really think Okstate will choke under the pressure. They've never been ranked this high, nor even gone (let alone win) to a NCG. LSU staff/players know the spotlight. It would be great for the Big 12 and for Okstate to win though. However, if Okstate dominates OU, then I think they have a decent chance against LSU.
Dave
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Orange Bowl: #1 vs. #4
Fiesta Bowl: #2 vs. #3
(optional) Sugar Bowl: Loser Orange Bowl vs. Loser Fiesta Bowl
Rose Bowl: Winner Orange Bowl vs. Winner Fiesta Bowl
Rotate the bowl game that has the championship game so that each bowl only has it once every 4 years. BAM! Playoffs and bowl games both. Get rid of all the smaller bowls as they are nothing more than money drains for all the schools involved.
There is controversy in NCAA Basketball over the 64th (now 68th?) team in the playoff.
This wouldn't be an easy thing to implement logistically and all that, but my favored format that would keep the importance of the regular season and give a legitimate champion: +1 games until there are no undefeated teams left. Has there been an instance of 3 undefeated teams at the end of the season ever in the BCS era? It would probably only be a +1 in the case of 2 undefeateds at the end. Oh, and a rule that # of losses supercedes any ranking.
Dave
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I'd like the ranking system that ESPN came up with. I'd have to find it, though.
Each win gives a specific amount of points (from 1-4 I believe) based on specific criteria. Like road win +1, conference win +1, margin of victory (set amount) +1, etc. Each loss would be -1-4 based on similar criteria. Playing non-division 1 opponents gives NO win.
End of the season the top 2 teams play for the title.
Each win gives a specific amount of points (from 1-4 I believe) based on specific criteria. Like road win +1, conference win +1, margin of victory (set amount) +1, etc. Each loss would be -1-4 based on similar criteria. Playing non-division 1 opponents gives NO win.
End of the season the top 2 teams play for the title.
Margin of victory should not be considered in rankings, it just leads to poor sportsmanship.
I think margin of victory is useful for common opponents only.
I disagree. Even then it leads to padding scores on inferior teams. Like teams that are up by 28 points with 2:00 left in the game. The classy move is to get a first down and kneel on the ball. But since your rival had beat them by 25 points, you launch into a hurry-up offense to get another point for the national rankings.
As I tried to find something to do over a long weekend, I discovered that all the non-playoff teams in Division 1-AA and lower were already done with their seasons as of last week.
At least a third of the current bowls could/should be cut, but with a similar playoff system to the rest of the NCAA, football would essentially be over for most of the country well before Thanksgiving. And who wants that?
At least a third of the current bowls could/should be cut, but with a similar playoff system to the rest of the NCAA, football would essentially be over for most of the country well before Thanksgiving. And who wants that?
Boise will still piss and moan because they will never get ranked #1 or 2.
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