WTF Wisconsin? (Formerly Walker convo thread)

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Espy

Espy

Just out of curiosity, I heard someone from WI mention this is something like the 3rd election now in almost as many years and that some of them were recall elections as well? Any idea how much this is costing the state?
 
Krisken

Krisken

Supposedly $9 million dollars. I know myself and the other million signers would be happy to add a $10 bill to remove this schmuck from office.
 
jwhouk

jwhouk

So, you wanna see what democracy really looks like?

Take a gander at this webcam. If you ever wondered what it looked like to count over a million recall petitions, this is what it looks like.
 
@Li3n

@Li3n

jwhouk said:
So, you wanna see what democracy really looks like?

Take a gander at this webcam. If you ever wondered what it looked like to count over a million recall petitions, this is what it looks like.
Click to expand...
That's not how democracy looks like, that's how a lack of robot servants does... and no jet packs either... man, the future sucks.
 
Krisken

Krisken

Someone argued with me yesterday about some guy being investigated for admitting he signed 80 different petitions (what the hell, how do you find time for this?) and that meant that there probably isn't enough signatures for a recall. His leap was so far I just said "what?" and watched him fall into the grand canyon chasm of logic.
 
jwhouk

jwhouk

80? That'd actually be impressive if he did it, because it would mean he would have had to find Eighty different canvassers over a period of about 65 to 70 days, since the first petitions weren't even AVAILABLE until Nov. 7 or so, and they were all due in to the Recall Walker HQ by the 9th...
 
Bowielee

Bowielee

I've recieved no less than 8 flyers in the last two weeks trying to urge me not to sign a petition to recall Walker. I had signed a patition at least 2 months ago.
 
Bowielee

Bowielee

The major thrust of them have been that he's "followed through on his promises" and that's why everyone's mad at him. Also that he single handedly got rid of the states budget deficit.
 
jwhouk

jwhouk

Meanwhile, we keep losing jobs, and he blames the statisticians.

Seems the only thing he knows how to count is votes.
 
Krisken

Krisken

That was another good one "He promised to bring new jobs to Wisconsin, so I voted for him"
A year later- "Well, he can't do anything about the jobs, so you can't blame him." Utter bull shit.
 
jwhouk

jwhouk

When the numbers say more jobs have been created, he's all over them. When they say they haven't, he (or the surrogate Palin Clone Rebecca) attacks the data.

...meanwhile, they're still counting the signatures.

EDIT: Maybe not. Looks like they don't have anyone in on weekends.

EDIT 2: I was wrong - they do work weekends, but not before 7 CST apparently. And not a full crew.
 
jwhouk

jwhouk

I have a nagging concern that I'm almost afraid to ask:

Let's say the recalls all come through, and the Dems not only re-take the governor's mansion, but they also re-take the senate. (They're miles and miles away from taking the assembly; I believe the GOP holds a significant edge in that house.)

Here's my question - and it affects me directly: How in the world does the new governor undo Act 10 and the ensuing crap that has occurred since?
 
Krisken

Krisken

I'm not a fan of the addresses being available for viewing. I think that's a mistake and will cause a backlash from the less civil people in society.

And just out of curiosity, why are there so many scandals surrounding Walker? He's done a masterful job of avoiding being implicated in any of them, but what the hell. When the John Doe thing started I was like "Ok, that can't be Walker's fault, they didn't find anything to do with him directly." Before that there was the nonsense involving the security guards who were 'laid off' and replaced with non union guards and the county of Milwaukee had to go back and pay those union guys who were wrongfully let go. Then the scandal involving former employees illegally campaigning for Walker during work hours came out and I started thinking "Wait, another thing on the outskirts of Walker..."

Honestly, the shit just keeps piling up, and I hope like hell they soon find something connected to this guy. No one has this much crap this close to them and doesn't have their hands in it somehow.
 
jwhouk

jwhouk

On that subject, I think I saw at least two or three "Koch"s on the signature lists...

I only got a chance to look at about maybe 100 of them before my brain said , "Uh, thanks, no". The petitions are scanned into PDF's of 50 petitions each, and not all of them have full petition sheets. That'd mean about 250 signatures (roughly) per PDF.

There are over 4,000 pages of these PDF's.
 
Krisken

Krisken

I was talking with a woman at work and she said "I worked with the county clerk's office for 30 years. You don't get a criminal and civil lawyer unless you are guilty of something illegal and are worried you're gonna get caught."
 
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