North_Ranger
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Maybe he found LOLBat's secret cave beneath the mansion (ugh, I still can't say that without tasting my lunch again), and Butler had to... take care of him.
[Webcomic] PVP Discussion
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I just wanted to address this really quick in regards to Necronic's posts (yes, I know you've backed off, but I'd like to present where many of us are coming from).
The entire impetus of this board sprang out of the PvP forum nuke. Imagine that Dave just all of a sudden shut down the entire site following several public announcements that we were all douchebags.
I'd imagine you'd be a little butthurt too.
There's a very good reason that there's a lot of animosity towards him on these boards. And it doesn't help that he's for the most part an unrepentant egomainiac. For the record, I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if Kurtz or someone close to him does follow this board in some fashion.
The entire impetus of this board sprang out of the PvP forum nuke. Imagine that Dave just all of a sudden shut down the entire site following several public announcements that we were all douchebags.
I'd imagine you'd be a little butthurt too.
There's a very good reason that there's a lot of animosity towards him on these boards. And it doesn't help that he's for the most part an unrepentant egomainiac. For the record, I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if Kurtz or someone close to him does follow this board in some fashion.
North_Ranger
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I would be, actually
I don't think Scott (aka Kurt aka The Tastemaker) gives two bits a forum community he pretty much threw overboard think of him. As for those close to him... well, we pretty much burnt down our bridges with Kris - a sad fact indeed 
- so I don't think he'd be much interested in looking around here, either. Not that I would mind seeing Straub here; he struck me as a rather sensible fellow and a webcomic author worth noting. Kurtz, on the other hand... well, best not go there.
My criticism of PVP in this thread has nothing to do with the forum nuke and everything to do with bad choices, sometimes for business, sometimes for art.
I honestly do think the PVP site redesign is a mess. It's a good way to remind yourself of Blamimations, but not for viewing the comic. And I also think PVP has largely been not as good for a while, but there are enough good ones to keep me coming back.
As far as criticism of Scott, it's this: he can do better. When reminded that he can do better, he does better. I was watching that PATV episode of The Trenches and I loved how he was talking about deciding all these things about characters that were never going to come into play in the comic, simply because you need to know where they're coming from, and how Mike didn't understand that at first. He knows his shit. He just gets lazy sometimes. If he were a talentless hack, I wouldn't care. But something that really irks me is when a talented person doesn't use their ability to their fullest, and I don't think PVP is where he wants to focus his energy anymore.
As for Scott as a person, I don't know him myself, but he seems like the kind of guy you'd want as a friend, even if you should get a contract in blood before agreeing to purchase anything from him.
The forum nuke happened a long time ago. I'm sure most, if not all of us, are over it at this point.
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I honestly do think the PVP site redesign is a mess. It's a good way to remind yourself of Blamimations, but not for viewing the comic. And I also think PVP has largely been not as good for a while, but there are enough good ones to keep me coming back.
As far as criticism of Scott, it's this: he can do better. When reminded that he can do better, he does better. I was watching that PATV episode of The Trenches and I loved how he was talking about deciding all these things about characters that were never going to come into play in the comic, simply because you need to know where they're coming from, and how Mike didn't understand that at first. He knows his shit. He just gets lazy sometimes. If he were a talentless hack, I wouldn't care. But something that really irks me is when a talented person doesn't use their ability to their fullest, and I don't think PVP is where he wants to focus his energy anymore.
As for Scott as a person, I don't know him myself, but he seems like the kind of guy you'd want as a friend, even if you should get a contract in blood before agreeing to purchase anything from him.
The forum nuke happened a long time ago. I'm sure most, if not all of us, are over it at this point.
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Because DarkAudit antagonized him on Twitter and mentioned us specifically.
When you're starting something of that nature, it's hard to tell which characters are going to matter in the long run and which ones aren't. When I did my webcomic, I introduced one character as the main antagonist, and then he ended up being good buddies with the main character. So then I intended them to go have adventures, but he ended up getting left behind almost every time. Since a webcomic goes up as you're doing it, its planning has a very fluid nature.
Okay, today's in-character blog is infuriating, and also a direct response to people who have pointed out the Duck is nothing like Max, and that trying to say he was is unmitigated crap.
Yes, from Brent's point of view, Max was the bad guy. But that was the entire point - that it was Cole and Brent's dysfunctions that made them hate Max, who was for the most part a really positive, easy-going, and more successful version of themselves. Cole thinks everything has always come easy for Max - but could it just be that Max has better skills, works harder, and self-sabotages less than Cole? Brent loathes Max - but is that because Max's upbeat attitude and ability to laugh at himself is such a strong contrast to Brent's insecure, brittle snark?
But the thing is, that's all in the past. Max has changed, Brent has changed. So having "Brent" say "Well, you may think Jean-Ralphio's a douche, but so was Max..." just reeks of Scott trying to sell us on it. I mean, who would "Brent" even be talking to?
Yes, from Brent's point of view, Max was the bad guy. But that was the entire point - that it was Cole and Brent's dysfunctions that made them hate Max, who was for the most part a really positive, easy-going, and more successful version of themselves. Cole thinks everything has always come easy for Max - but could it just be that Max has better skills, works harder, and self-sabotages less than Cole? Brent loathes Max - but is that because Max's upbeat attitude and ability to laugh at himself is such a strong contrast to Brent's insecure, brittle snark?
But the thing is, that's all in the past. Max has changed, Brent has changed. So having "Brent" say "Well, you may think Jean-Ralphio's a douche, but so was Max..." just reeks of Scott trying to sell us on it. I mean, who would "Brent" even be talking to?
I think you're overreacting a bit. It's just Scott making more backlinks to his archives, which helps keep his archives SEO friendly. No issue with that. Doesn't make me want to read his blog, which he should be trying to do since he made it his homepage, but there's nothing wrong with it.
We got one strip that was even mildly funny out of it.
We got one strip that was even mildly funny out of it.
I think it's a new thing with the site revamp.
figmentPez
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The previous blog, Adventure Time with Cole: The Pig Brigade had more content, but wasn't that interesting. Seemed like too much set-up for a pretty lame DMing joke.
Basically, an old man tells the party that his wife was turned into a pig by a witch. He sends the party off to find the witch to reverse the spell. Then it turns out it's a pig and he's actually a pig fucker.
I don't know, was Carlos Mencia usually 20-odd hours late to his gigs?
Dave
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Battered women taste better than fried women. Especially if the breading used is Italian blend herbs.There's a book you should probably read Dave.
It's just Null having something else negative to say about Kurtz...
Honestly, I think it's cool if he wants to leverage people's comments on his comic/site like that. It doesn't take a tastemaker to predict where this could have gone before the new design went up.
My issue with Scott is pretty much the same as it always has been; he believes his own press releases and acts like an asshole to people who aren't buying what he's selling.
Yes, because lord knows he hasn't warranted any negative opinions...It's just Null having something else negative to say about Kurtz...
Some of his action warrant negative opinions, but at a certain point perspective is needed: He's a webcartoonist. Ignoring him is as easy as not visiting his website and not following him on Twitter.
You just keep coming across like a Liberal that listens to Fox and Friends, The Rush Limbaugh Show, and the O'Reilly Factor. Just so he can have something to bitch about the next day.