Whine like a baby, now with 500% more drama!
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My favorite bar will be closing in two months... hold me. 
Is it someplace where everybody knows your name?My favorite bar will be closing in two months... hold me.
No, but they poured a pitcher of beer for me when they saw my car enter the driveway.
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And if I were entertaining friends, the staff normally gave me at least one free pitcher of beer.
Cajungal
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Ya ever just sit there and think about something that happened a while ago that made you mildly upset... but then you just don't stop thinking about it. Next thing you know, you can't get that instant out of your head and you just want to smack someone? I walked into that trap this evening.
My older cousin had two kids with this spoiled, wannabe thug who's been withholding child support for years. Now she's dating this new thug wannabe guy who invited all his creepy friends to our Mardi Gras parade spot (this was over 2 damn weeks ago. How dumb is it that I'm stewing about this? Oh well... kind of nice to know I have the free time to actually stew this evening.) Well anyway, these guys are all watching the parade, and these high school dancing troupe marches by and does their little routine. People are applauding and throwing them beads and asking for an encore, and what are this guy's friends doing? They're fucking cat-calling the 16-year-old girls and saying stuff like "yeah baby, show me that ass!"
....Really? It was pretty disgusting. They're close to 30. And ok, maybe it wasn't the boyfriend himself who was shouting these things, but the company he keeps is making me nervous. Her kids are screwed up enough from their first shitty dad. Bah... not my business and nothing I can do, but why does she have to hate dating guys who understand that being a badass doesn't mean posturing like some kind of neck-tattooed rooster with a noisy muffler pipe and no manners?
My older cousin had two kids with this spoiled, wannabe thug who's been withholding child support for years. Now she's dating this new thug wannabe guy who invited all his creepy friends to our Mardi Gras parade spot (this was over 2 damn weeks ago. How dumb is it that I'm stewing about this? Oh well... kind of nice to know I have the free time to actually stew this evening.) Well anyway, these guys are all watching the parade, and these high school dancing troupe marches by and does their little routine. People are applauding and throwing them beads and asking for an encore, and what are this guy's friends doing? They're fucking cat-calling the 16-year-old girls and saying stuff like "yeah baby, show me that ass!"
....Really? It was pretty disgusting. They're close to 30. And ok, maybe it wasn't the boyfriend himself who was shouting these things, but the company he keeps is making me nervous. Her kids are screwed up enough from their first shitty dad. Bah... not my business and nothing I can do, but why does she have to hate dating guys who understand that being a badass doesn't mean posturing like some kind of neck-tattooed rooster with a noisy muffler pipe and no manners?
fade
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#firstworldproblems
I'm annoyed that the top of the line 40" Sony Bravia that I scrimped and saved for back in 2007 has a picture that looks so much worse than the Wal-mart Samsung I bought this past summer. I've calibrated both with the AVS's calibration blu-ray, but the Samsung just has a better range of brights and darks I guess. I realize that there's a five year difference in there, but both are 1080p, and I paid about a tenth of what I paid for the Sony to buy the Samsung.
I'm annoyed that the top of the line 40" Sony Bravia that I scrimped and saved for back in 2007 has a picture that looks so much worse than the Wal-mart Samsung I bought this past summer. I've calibrated both with the AVS's calibration blu-ray, but the Samsung just has a better range of brights and darks I guess. I realize that there's a five year difference in there, but both are 1080p, and I paid about a tenth of what I paid for the Sony to buy the Samsung.
Frankie... you rule.
Motion interpolation looks like crap, and it often ruins what the directors are trying to achieve (they actually do use shutter speed and motion blur to create the look they want... surprise). Not to mention motion interpolation also creates visual artifacts and it JUST LOOKS WRONG!
Also, you're not truly getting 120/240hz out of those displays... LCD displays simply can't refresh that fast (the LCD crystals can't twist back and forth that quickly) so they have to do all kinds of weird visual tricks to fool your eyes into thinking that they are seeing more data than they actually are.
Buy a TV that can play content at it's native frame rate and then you won't have to worry about motion interpolation and yucky 2:3 pulldown issues.
I have no idea what the hell you're talking about. Either of you have only seen shitty quality TVs that claim to do it correctly or you don't know how to calibrate a TV because with my 240hz 1080p TV everything moves on my screen as if I was holding the camera myself. There's no "filter", it's perfect quality with zero interferance or loss of quality.
I've never had a more engrossing movie experience till the first time I watched a Blu-Ray on that TV.
I've never had a more engrossing movie experience till the first time I watched a Blu-Ray on that TV.
You probably don't have the frame interpolation turned on which means you are watching it the way you should and it will look gorgeous. Congratulations 
*facepalm*
It's quite possible you don't even see the things that Frankie and I see. Lots of people can't even tell the difference when frame interpolation is on or off (my wife can't).
It's also a matter of taste so I'm not going to say you're wrong... just that I like to watch movies in their native formats without extra signal processing thrown in.
It's quite possible you don't even see the things that Frankie and I see. Lots of people can't even tell the difference when frame interpolation is on or off (my wife can't).
It's also a matter of taste so I'm not going to say you're wrong... just that I like to watch movies in their native formats without extra signal processing thrown in.
I'm guessing it's that you're seeing bad examples. I'm the same person who spends an extra $500 on a second graphics card or monitor just because I can tell when there are minor skips in any kind of frame rate. I'm definitely a videophile and I've seen what you're talking about before in cheaper "Hi-Def" TV sets. It's why I took so long to jump into the market and spent as much as I did.
I'm also an avid videophile and I have two new very expensive high end plasma tv's as well as high quality computer monitors and and computer running two radeon 6870's. I also have access to a Pioneer Kuro Elite monitor which is still arguably one of the best tv's out there.
I think we just have very different ideas of how we like to see things move because I have looked at the newer televisions and I still find the frame interpolations "jarring". I can't explain it. Every time they kick in my brain screams "Wrong! That's not how it should look!".
Just out of curiousity... what television are you viewing on? I'd be interested to go down to the local home theatre centre and have a look to see if it's any different or if I still have the same jarring experience.
I think we just have very different ideas of how we like to see things move because I have looked at the newer televisions and I still find the frame interpolations "jarring". I can't explain it. Every time they kick in my brain screams "Wrong! That's not how it should look!".
Just out of curiousity... what television are you viewing on? I'd be interested to go down to the local home theatre centre and have a look to see if it's any different or if I still have the same jarring experience.
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SeraRelm
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I can't re-encode this video format without having a tiny watermark on the screen unless I pay for software!
I know what that motion interpolation cheap video look is. I always thought it felt like if the images were sped up but still moved at the same speed.
In my case, afer a week or two of having a TV wich does it, I stopped noticing it.
In my case, afer a week or two of having a TV wich does it, I stopped noticing it.
fade
Staff member
This is an argument that predates HDTVs by decades. Think about when Twilight Zone switched to video from film. People didn't like it. They still don't like it. People prefer 24 fps because it has that film look. 60 fps, or some other interpolated framerate looks too good, and people don't like their video to look too good. Too good has become equated with cheap, because cheaper cameras frankly capture motion better by design. Or rather, the expensive cameras have been intentionally hobbled to 24 fps to recreate the judder we all love so much. No judgement there. I certainly prefer the aesthetic of 24p. Some authors have gone so far as to try to justify it by saying 24fps is closer to how we perceive real life, and what we see in 30p or 60p as "too good" is an artifact of our brains misinterpreting too many still pictures flying by at once.
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makare
Someday I am going to buy a nice tv and I hope I have people who know this stuff around when I do. Some newer tvs actually make me nauseated to watch and I couldnt figure out why. This stuff might actually be part of it. I'd be more open to blu ray and hd formats if I could watch them without feeling like Im on a ship.
figmentPez
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I'm really looking forward to the reaction film snobs have to watching The Hobbit in 48 fps.
Here's the thing... if the film is natively shot in 48fps then it will look fine at that frame rate because that's how it was shot. Watching something shot in 24fps at 240fps plus major frame interpolation is totally different.
figmentPez
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I was referring to those film snobs who hate the look of video because it's natively 60 fps, not frame interpolation.
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makare
does anyone else see azurephoenix's text as different than everyone else's? it looks weird.
GasBandit
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Yes, he's manually changing his font to arial so it looks like this.
Damn it... I like arial! Awwwwww yeah!
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makare
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I don't like video because it has lower resolution than film.
Mwahahahahahahahahaha!!!!
42.00 dollars shipping on a 1 pound package? Are you kidding me?! I'm not in the god damn third world. You're shipping center in in New York! I am in Newfoundland. We are practically next door! You could throw the god damn thing to me! You could place it in a glass bottle, toss it in the ocean and it would get to me!
Stupid international shipping.
Stupid international shipping.