[Movies] Avengers

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Because of the fancy language, people tend to forget that many of shakespeares plays were basically the Porkies of the time.
 
Also referring to Buffy stuff, but yeah.

Just because someone's leaving a show doesn't mean you have to kill their character. You never know when you'll need it again.
Ugh I read up into the newer books and

he killed Giles in a stupid, shocking way out of fucking nowhere like he did Anya. I was so pissed. Angel goes evil and snaps Giles' neck like a twig, takes all of like two pages. Bad enough he'd already killed off Wesley and Fred in Angel.
 
The guy who played Wesley wanted out, I think. He'd been in an accident and part of his face was paralyzed, so it made doing his role very difficult. There is a reason they used the same fucking camera angles for him all the final season.

Besides, death is cheap in the Buffy-verse: Doyle was supposed to come back in the last season but his actor died. Same could have been done for Wesley. Same could be done for Giles.
 
lolspoilers

At this point it's all in comic form so he can bring back whoever he wants. So far, he's shown the various dead characters, I think even Tara, coming in as spirits, and as far as I can remember, nothing since. Hell he's even killed off love interests after only a few issues in the comics. There's the option, sure, but outside of Buffy, Angel and Spike I don't think anyone's ever revived permanently. I think Joss just likes using death as a climax.

Anyway, back to Avengers. I'm stupid excited for this movie and I hope it's awesome. Definitely feeling some of that Whedon banter in the trailers, too.

Also, Lou Ferrigno is the voice of the Hulk, haha.
 

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Halforums always makes me want to watch Angel. I tried back when it was on the air, but I just couldn't get into it. Cordelia is just irritating to no end. Plus, with the exception of Firefly, I never could get past Whedon's fake-real dialogue. "We're talking like real people, only real people don't say stuff like this" kind of crap. Which worked in FF because it's sci-fi.
 
Halforums always makes me want to watch Angel. I tried back when it was on the air, but I just couldn't get into it. Cordelia is just irritating to no end. Plus, with the exception of Firefly, I never could get past Whedon's fake-real dialogue. "We're talking like real people, only real people don't say stuff like this" kind of crap. Which worked in FF because it's sci-fi.
Angel was really slow the first season. I hate telling people to stick it out, but really I found it hits a stride in season two and beyond. It feels a little too crime-drama at first, and they didn't flesh out Cordelia enough in the first season past her Sunnydale persona (which is never truly dropped, but added into her character through the show and her own personal growth as a person).
 
I really don't think Angel really picks up until they settle into the hotel. That's when most of the major cast starts showing up (Gunn, Fred, Lorn) and the over-arching plot of the rest of the seasons really takes off.
 
The guy who played Wesley wanted out, I think. He'd been in an accident and part of his face was paralyzed, so it made doing his role very difficult. There is a reason they used the same fucking camera angles for him all the final season.
According to Wikipedia, it was Bell's Palsy and he's well over it now. More than likely, they killed off Wesley for the same dramatic reasons supporting characters die every time Whedon ends a series: so the heroes don't come out of the conflict completely unscathed. I actually kind of like it. His series tend to end with big conflicts against powerful foes for the fate of the world or at least a big piece of it. Killing off a main character, in my opinion, actually makes the victory mean a bit more.

Which means, I think, The Avengers and their supporting casts are safe...until Marvel ends the series. Then Whedon will kill off Hawkeye, The Warriors Three, Betty Ross, and Iron Man. Tony will deliver the following speech before sacrificing himself

Pepper, listen to me, listen. I love you. I will always love you. But this is the work that I have to do. Tell Cap… tell Steve I figured it out. And, and I'm okay. And give my love to the team. You have to take care of them now. You have to take care of each other. Pepper, the hardest thing in this world… is to live in it. Be brave. Live… for me.
At the end of the movie, Pepper will get the Rescue armor. Cap will ask her how the armor is and she'll say that it's untested but it'll fly.

CREDITS
 
Oh that's right... it was Mark Hamill that had the car accident, not him. My bad.

Also, I'd love to see Marvel adapt it's Civil War story, if only so I can see Robert Downey Jr. be the biggest asshole EVER.
 
Regarding the Wesley thing, and dude, that really should have been spoilered.

It was the last show of the series, so it wouldn't have anything to do with actor issues, and they let him go out in a blaze of glory. His death is an example of a properly done death, not Anya's. I still rage about that.
"She died saving my life"
"That's my girl, always doing the stupid thing" FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's how you react when the love of your life is killed? REALLY?????????????
Compare that to:
"Would you like me to lie to you now?"
"Yes, please."
Still makes me cry every time I watch it.
As for the comic, I haven't made it all the way through "season 8", but the whole Buffy getting in a lesbian relationship thing kind of made me put down the comic.
 
Regarding the Wesley thing, and dude, that really should have been spoilered.
Eight years. That's how long ago the final episode of Angel aired. Eight years. A child born on the day that episode aired would be in second grade right now. There was a three and a half year running comic book series that detailed what happened after. For the last eight months, there has been another series detailing what happened after the last series. Reasonable spoiler free period is over.

Speaking of which, the Buffy Season Nine comics have been much better than season eight. I think Joss wrote the franchise into corner when he thought it was over for good. Season nine is a lot more back to basics.
 
Eight years. That's how long ago the final episode of Angel aired. Eight years. A child born on the day that episode aired would be in second grade right now. There was a three and a half year running comic book series that detailed what happened after. For the last eight months, there has been another series detailing what happened after the last series. Reasonable spoiler free period is over.

Speaking of which, the Buffy Season Nine comics have been much better than season eight. I think Joss wrote the franchise into corner when he thought it was over for good. Season nine is a lot more back to basics.
No, I think he was just excited that he was no longer held by the restraints of reality with his writing. Even he admits that it was too much.
 
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Norse Mythology is no less simple stories about superpowered being than anything Marvel writes. Similar to the way Shakespearean plays were considered low-brow theatre, the format may change, but the purpose remains the same: entertainment.
Fine then. Nirvana and the Foo Fighters. Both rock bands, but the only thing they really have in common is the drummer.
 
Yeah, definitely seeing this movie. Don't even care that I haven't seen all the movies in the continuity before it, I'm fucking seeing it.
 
So supposedly a game coming out may have spoiled something about the movie.

One of the figures is a Skrull, which is odd considering Marvel kept saying for awhile it was not going to end up being the Skrulls.

Maybe they are just trying to throw people off.
 
Is it a video game, because they may be avoiding just duplicating the movie, a la Green Lantern: Rise of the Manhunters.
 
Is it a video game, because they may be avoiding just duplicating the movie, a la Green Lantern: Rise of the Manhunters.
Nope it's some figure game supposedly based on people that appear in the movie, though it DOES have Heimdall...

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/DGTZ/news/?a=57499

While the aliens in the movie don't look like Skrulls, we should remember Skrulls are shape-changers and conquerors, for all we know this is the Skrulls hiding in other forms or just a race of people they conquered, while the "real" Skrulls do some infiltration into the planet during the chaos.
 
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