It's a sad day in the Internet Entertainment World...

[LittleSin]

The story I have peiced together:

During the 4th year Spoony made a rape joke involving JesuOtaku. People went "Oooo..nasty." Spoony apologized to JO and they all moved on.

The comment end up sticking with Obscurus Lupa. She brought it up on a twitter a week or so ago, bring everyones attention to it. She called him a creep. Spoony and his fans went on the defensive. JO was mute on the matter. Spoony started getting tons of tweets and e-mails telling him what a sick person he was and others telling him to just "get over" his depression and "snap out of it". Spoony went apeshit.

He got suspended from TGWTG. Spoonys insane fan base started attacking Obscurus Lupa, blaming her for this whole thing. OL responded maturely and clearly. Things seemed to die down...until tonight when OL and Spoony got into it again.

Now we get a message about him leaving the site of his own free will.

Oh, and JesuOtaku weighed in on twitter last night bascially saying she had no idea what happened, didn't want to be brought into it, and was just baffled by it all.

I tried to tell this story with as much accuracy as I can garner and little bias...so it may not be completely right.

 

[LordRendar]

Whats his beef with Lupa? -ninja answered by LS-

Seems that some people gave out Spoonys cellphone number to harass him.
Way to go people.

 

[AshburnerX]

I wouldn't be surprised if this ends up with Lupa leaving too. I really don't think she knows just what kind of shit storm she's brought on herself... Spoony's fans can be especially unforgiving.

I wonder how this is gonna affect the 4th year movie. Is Spoony going to let them use the footage of him? Are they going to edit him out? Would the movie make ANY kind of sense without him?

 

[LittleSin]

Holly Christine, one of the executive producers on CA, has said the Spoony will still be in the movie and there's a few other cross overs filmed and ready. Also, producers can who ever they want in their videos so if they want him in...he's in.

So he probably won't vanish from the site. Linkara and CinemaSnob are good friends of his and they cross over a lot.

 

[LordRendar]

Yeah,Lupa will have to batten down the hatches.but why did she have to bring up something for which Spoony apologized and got forgiven for?
For her own sense of moral?

 

[LittleSin]

That's what I have gathered. That's her reasoning, according to her tumblr. It bothered her so she called him out.

Lupa has handled the fall out well...but this could have been avoided. Why use a public forum like twitter? Why not skype or e-mail?

She has stated that she will never stand down to bullies and she felt like Spoony was being a bully with the comment and getting away with it...but the situation had absolutely zero to do with her and the party offended had been apologized to by the offending party. She had defended her comment by saying spoony needed to be called out on his bullshit behaviour...but surely there had to be a better way.

He's in a bad spot, mentally. He's practically stalking his ex and blaming her for all his current problems. I don't know what went down between the two of them and I don't really care. He DOES need people telling him that going off on folks on twitter ain't going to cut it and he needs to get help AND her needs to own his shitty situation instead of blaming others. His fan stroking his ego aren't going ot help...but venom won't help either.

 

[AshburnerX]

Yeah,Lupa will have to batten down the hatches.but why did she have to bring up something for which Spoony apologized and got forgiven for?
For her own sense of moral?

Basically. Though to be fair, I'm surprised Linkara didn't tear him a new one about it on the spot. He's pretty proactive about feminism and I don't think he'd have appreciated the comment ether. JewWario probably would/should have done it too.

Honestly, this kinda reminds me of the incident with That Australian Guy at the first year movie, where he made a lot of inappropriate comments about NChick and how she had been hitting on him pretty hard (when she actually found him kinda repulsive). He ended up "leaving" the site after that.

Yeah, Spoony's not going anywhere unless he lets this setback become a reason to stop all together. He just won't be on the TGWTG anymore. Though it makes me wonder if he was getting any of that million dollar deal the site made with Blip over advertising...

 

[LordRendar]

So she wont stand down to bullies but is being a bully herself.yey for selfrightiousness.
If you apologize and are forgiven that is the end of that,or why bother apologizing in the firstplace. -.-

And yes,what Spoony does is very very stupid,but who gave Lupa the right to pull all his skeletons out of his closet into the open?

 

[LittleSin]

I think Linkara is playing smart and keeping most of his comments private. The most he has done publicly is make a plea for sanity.

Also, there might be a possibility that Linkara recognized the comment for what it was...a very distasteful joke made by a guy that makes distasteful jokes for a living. Really, Spoony is kinda like Howard Stern when it comes to the shit that comes out of his mouth. Same goes for JewWario. I've talked to the man on twitter, e-mail and livestreams...the dude has a dark sense of humour that his character doesn't let on.

Lupa seems to be on a "stron female" kick lately. It's a lovely thing, really, but I'm wondering if she's falling into the feminism trap of taking things a bit too personally.

 

[Bowielee]

So, it took 8 months, but the title of the thread finally becomes more than hyperbole.

This whole situation sucks....

I like both Spoony and Lupa.

 

[Norris]

So Spoony found this Tweet from Lupa's feed, circa November:

I beat Checkers with a hose and he looked at me so confused. ADORABLE! =^-^=

And proceeded to tweet the following:

Animal abuse! LOL!

I've learned my lesson about what kind of humor's appropriate now!

I can beat a cat with a hose, but I can't rape it. Gotcha.

He had to go back about SEVEN MONTHS to find something objectionable she said. He joked about locking a co-worker up in his rape dungeon, she joked about hitting her cat with a hose. And, most likely, she meant "booped him on the head with some hose" and phrased it with hyperbole (but that's naked speculation). Way to be a mature, rational adult Noah.

Incidentally, Lupa also tweeted this:

No, guys, a tweet about beating a cat with a hose is not the same as saying you're going to rape someone. Sorry.

Since people are bringing it up, then I do sincerely apologize if that tweet offended any animal lovers.

and this:

Also since it's been brought up, no one should be throwing Noah any death wishes over this, guys. That's absolutely not okay.

 

[ThatNickGuy]

In the hopes of ending the insanity (or at least taking it out of public view), I actually tweeted him myself. I said something to the extent of "With all due respect, you're entering Charlie Sheen train wreck territory" and suggest he step away from all this for awhile. He clearly didn't take the advice.

I mean, hell, I've been there. On here, several times, at that. Rather than continue to make things worse, I step away. That's something his ego clearly won't allow.

 

[CynicismKills]

In the hopes of ending the insanity (or at least taking it out of public view), I actually tweeted him myself. I said something to the extent of "With all due respect, you're entering Charlie Sheen train wreck territory" and suggest he step away from all this for awhile. He clearly didn't take the advice.

I mean, hell, I've been there. On here, several times, at that. Rather than continue to make things worse, I step away. That's something his ego clearly won't allow.

According to everything else he's posted back to random folks talking to him, either he'll tell you to fuck off, shut the fuck up, or that he doesn't care about a stranger's opinion. I don't think anyone's talking him down from this until he's had his fun.

 

[AshburnerX]

Do I need to point out that Charlie Sheen didn't take that advice ether? And now he's back with ANOTHER television show and even more limelight?

Face it; being an asshole gets you ahead in the entertainment world.

 

[Bowielee]

Do I need to point out that Charlie Sheen didn't take that advice ether? And now he's back with ANOTHER television show and even more limelight?

Face it; being an asshole gets you ahead in the entertainment world.

I wouldn't call going from a highly rated show on one of the main 3 broadcast networks to a show on basic cable "getting ahead".

 

[AshburnerX]

I wouldn't call going from a highly rated show on one of the main 3 broadcast networks to a show on basic cable "getting ahead".

Yeah, but he shouldn't even HAVE a show. If he hadn't gone from tantrum all the way back around to hilarious, he wouldn't be working right now.

 

[Shegokigo]

Basically Spoony is done. Not in the sense he won't have a video outlet anymore, he'll still have his website. He's "done" because he was definitely a bigger star after joining TGWTG network.

You know the only reason he got a following and a site? Because of his Youtube videos. When he pulled away from it, he was losing more viewers than gaining due to his only way of getting new viewers was through word of mouth. With exposure like TGWTG he obviously gained a bigger following.

Now with this idiocy he's started, he'll lose at least a third of his fanbase, and without exposure like TGWTG, he's back to where he was when all he had was his site. A slow fanbase death.

On the other hand. Jesse Cox is in the top 20 biggest names on Youtube now, and gets funnier everyday. He puts out 1-3 videos a day, most in length between 15mins-1hr.

 

[Bowielee]

I've also noticed Spoony's site is prone to being down quite often, so yeah....

 

[AshburnerX]

I've also noticed Spoony's site is prone to being down quite often, so yeah....

This is because he doesn't know how to maintain it himself. He's always relied on a webmaster and I think his last one worked for TGWTG, not him. I think that's why he's transferring the site over as well: TGWTG has been hosting it since he joined up with them.

And Shego... he DOES have other options, but they are nowhere near as good. Destructiod, Screw Attack, Retroware TV, The Escapist... I'm sure they'd all love a big name like Spoony. TGWTG isn't the only game in town, it's just by far the best.

However, I think he best option is probably going to be to go into treatment for his problems, spend a few months working that out with professional help, and then basically come back to board of TGWTG and say "Look... I fucked up. But I'm getting help. I'd like to come back. Here's my doctor's number, talk to him, see what he thinks." I'm almost certain they'd take him back if he made a serious effort towards making amends and working out this shit.

 

[CynicismKills]

He's got supporters, but I know I'm not going to bother checking his site anymore, at least. Was looking forward to the rest of that Ultima IX review, too, as I actually own that abomination.

 

[Norris]

Hey! That TGWTG person, Holly? The one who's been the official damage controller? She labels this as the Tweet that actually started the ball rolling the parting of the ways between Channel Awesome and Spoony:

I am also not allowed to threaten fans or tell them to go fuck themselves anymore. Hopefully you've internalized my voice so it's automatic

Yup. Spoony's "different direction" is the direction of being a total dickcheese.

 

[AshburnerX]

I don't think anyone really disagrees with TGWTG's position in all of this. It's not like they didn't give him a shitload of chances before this and it really does reflect badly on the site whenever one of their biggest named personalities goes on a hate bender like Spoony's been doing lately. They have a business to run and he's making it harder for them to do business.

 

[Bowielee]

I don't think anyone really disagrees with TGWTG's position in all of this. It's not like they didn't give him a shitload of chances before this and it really does reflect badly on the site whenever one of their biggest named personalities goes on a hate bender like Spoony's been doing lately. They have a business to run and he's making it harder for them to do business.

There's also the fact that Spoony NEVER releases videos on an anywhere near regular schedule. I assume the people on TGWTG are getting paid, so if it's your fucking JOB to produce content, you suck it up and produce the damn content.

 

[AshburnerX]

I'm not sure how it works over there. I know they signed a million dollar deal with Blip for advertising (which is why most of the big guys have advertisements in their videos now) but I don't know who's part of that and who's not. I'm assuming a lot of that money is going towards production equipment, server maintenance, transportation costs, and other stuff... but I don't know if anyone is getting PAID from that except Doug and the board at TGWTG.

And yes, Spoony's been really bad about that lately. He's always been bad about it, but it's been VERY bad lately.

 

[LittleSin]

On that last point he would not be the only one.

CR doesn't release on a regular schedule. Neither does Ed Glazer. Or JesuOtaku,

I think that may not be the point.

 

[Norris]

Yeah, regularity isn't really the point though it does help keep people interested. And individual producers get paid by Blip, or at least they did for a while. I remember listening to the Kickassia (I think) commentary and they mentioned Phelous had some trouble at U.S. Customs over the nature of his job - I.E, customs didn't get it.

 

[CynicismKills]

Plus most of them release a lot more content on Blip (and generally earlier) than is put on TGWTG, if you were so inclined to check their Blip page.

 

[Bowielee]

Some of the newer reviewers only get occasional posts on the proper TGWTG site, such as Diamanda Hagen and Oancitizen. Many times it's because Blip has looser regulations about what can be shown and the stuff they review is pretty edgy.

 

[CynicismKills]

Some of the newer reviewers only get occasional posts on the proper TGWTG site, such as Diamanda Hagen and Oancitizen. Many times it's because Blip has looser regulations about what can be shown and the stuff they review is pretty edgy.

True, I've just about finished Brows Held High, which is pretty good, and he does a lot of those artsy kind of movies with craploads of nudity and violence. Watched a couple of Diamanda's videos and they're funny, though her crazy-killer thing gets old kinda quick.

 

[LittleSin]

...what? Not really. Oan has his stuff but up just a day or so after his posting. Same goes for Diamanda.

At least that is what I have noticed. There is a schedule with exceptions.

 

[Bowielee]

They're coming more frequently now as they become more popular, but there was a period where they would only get postings every month or so, if even.

I think I love Diamanda Hagen because she's what I would imagine Shegokigo is like in her head (except not as pretty as Shego, of course. Added in an effort to keep shego from skinning me alive).

They have both also said in commentaries that they had to re-edit before some videos could be accepted on TGWTG. I also know that many of DH's videos will never be on TGWTG, such as Pschitzophreniac: the Whore Mangler, and Stonewall and Riot.

 

[Bowielee]

Also, many of the reviewers refer to the site as their job, so they're making some sort of money off of it.

 

[CynicismKills]

I've only seen maybe 4 of her reviews so far (not including the Heavy Metal one with NC), and all in all they've actually made me laugh a lot more than NCritic or some of the other big names on the site lately. Her Ricky-O and Turkey Shoot videos were hilarious. Lately Lupa, Phelous, Oancitizen and her have been my favorites. Lupa's Radu Reviews are hilarious.

 

[Bowielee]

I've only seen maybe 4 of her reviews so far (not including the Heavy Metal one with NC), and all in all they've actually made me laugh a lot more than NCritic or some of the other big names on the site lately. Her Ricky-O and Turkey Shoot videos were hilarious. Lately Lupa, Phelous, Oancitizen and her have been my favorites. Lupa's Radu Reviews are hilarious.

I'd seriously suggest checking out DH's Blip chanel. She has MANY reviews that will probably never make it to TGWTG, or will be heavily edited when they are moved over.

Freeway 2: Confessions of a Trickbaby is insanely hilarious.

 

[CynicismKills]

That's where I've been watching most videos lately, yeah. Lupa and Phaleous seems to upload there a few days before the video hits TGWTG, too.