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North_Ranger
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Never said I was, my good fellow. I just recall reading that capoeira is mostly performance despite its appearance.
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Fixed. Though I do believe the whole "cheese-eating surrender monkey" joke really got wind beneath its wings during the whole "freedom fries" dipshittery.
Fun fact: The phrase above was actually coined for a 1995 Simpsons episode.
I've been doing capoeira for about 6 years now. Trust me, it's a martial art. I assume you know a little bit about the origin of capoeira (or else just looked it up quickly), so you'll know that it stems from slaves secretly practising martial arts, but disguising it as a dance so they wouldn't be discovered. So yeah, performance and fighting go hand in hand with this martial art.
There's also another reason why we seem to kick and 'dance' around each other without really making contact: if one of those kicks actually lands, you're out. Getting a kick to the head at full speed makes for poor sparring..
So the above goes the other way around: despite appearing as a performance, it's actually a martial art.
There's also another reason why we seem to kick and 'dance' around each other without really making contact: if one of those kicks actually lands, you're out. Getting a kick to the head at full speed makes for poor sparring..
So, you wouldn't consider Archery a martial art?
Well I wouldn't call Archery a martial art either... I'd sooner place it under armed combat, whereas with martial arts you use your (unarmed) body as a weapon
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They call him Dances with Bows.
BDSM bordellos can now be categorized under martial arts studios!
You don't say.
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In that case I admit being wrong and apologize. Mostly I was pissed off with the lame-ass "French dun wanna fitgh hur hur hur" joke, and that just made me lash out what I remembered to be a form of dance rather than a martial art. I stand corrected.
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I consider it good excercise and a fun hobby, as I go shooting by myself rather than as part of an organized group training people in it.
I figured that would come up. I should have said Ranged Combat instead. Yes, armed martial arts are possible (Kung-Fu comes to mind), but the weapons used there are used as an extension of yourself, rather than firing a projectile. That takes skill too, but I just wouldn't put that under the term "martial arts". I mean, in that case guns would fall under that category as well, and I've never heard anyone describe Clint Eastwood as a martial artist...
I wouldn't call police officer a martial artist either, just because they learned how to use a gun.
maybe this can be split off to a seperate thread? I'm interested to hear what other people think about the definition of martial arts / combat.
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His brow-fu is exceptionally strong, though...
One, the term "martial art" has two meanings - on the one hand, as GB said, "art of warfare", and in that sense, Go and Chess are some of the most important martial arts out there; on the other hand, sports with the goal of improving one's ability to fight personally; usually unarmed and/or defensive (everything from karate over judo, capoeira and whatever).
Two, capoeira is originally a martial art disguised as a dance. In some places, it's still practised as such, but there are also dance studios which teach it as a dance form these days, with moves based on martial art attack/defense movements. I thought there was a separate name for it but I don't recall.
Three, the the whole French thing is kind of old...And silly. The whole idea of the French as submissive and whimpy is completely opposite reality - the French are historically among the more resilient and enduring defenders against aggression, and among the more aggressive countries in Europe. For some reason, "a government fled the country and capitulated to the Germans, while the population continued harassing the oppressor for 4 years and lived through enormous hardship, never accepting them as rulers" means "wusses" to Americans, while "Threw some tea in the sea" means "heroic sacrifice"*.
*I'm kidding. The French aren't wimps though.
Two, capoeira is originally a martial art disguised as a dance. In some places, it's still practised as such, but there are also dance studios which teach it as a dance form these days, with moves based on martial art attack/defense movements. I thought there was a separate name for it but I don't recall.
Three, the the whole French thing is kind of old...And silly. The whole idea of the French as submissive and whimpy is completely opposite reality - the French are historically among the more resilient and enduring defenders against aggression, and among the more aggressive countries in Europe. For some reason, "a government fled the country and capitulated to the Germans, while the population continued harassing the oppressor for 4 years and lived through enormous hardship, never accepting them as rulers" means "wusses" to Americans, while "Threw some tea in the sea" means "heroic sacrifice"*.
*I'm kidding. The French aren't wimps though.
Same here on both accounts.
Really, because I practice once a week with my sidearm and at least once a week on my close combat stuff, usually a mix of judo and jiu jitsu specifically meant for overpowering and controlling someone. I considering anything where you practice ways of being more capable of combat martial arts, because that's specifically what the term means. Now, I wouldn't consider myself a traditional martial artist, since we only practice what it is relevant to us.
This is from Wikipedia, so, you know, salt and all that:
"The term martial art has become heavily associated with the fighting arts of eastern Asia, but was originally used in regard to the combat systems of Europe as early as the 1550s. An English fencing manual of 1639 used the term in reference specifically to the "Science and Art" of swordplay."
Weapons were the original intention of the term.
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