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GasBandit

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Wait? I'm Chaz now? I thought I was Mathias?

I'm so confused, why do people keep tagging me for this?
Psst.... Chaz and Mathias are the same person. He changed names to Mathias to signify his desire to start over and not be such a butt. As you can probably surmise, there is disagreement as to the degree to which he succeeded.
 
Wait? I'm Chaz now? I thought I was Mathias?

I'm so confused, why do people keep tagging me for this?
I tagged you simply because we were discussing you, and I thought you might be interested. And, as GB explained, Chaz and Mathias were the same person. As for why people were convinced you're secretly Chaz/Mathias in disguise, I'm not sure.
 
I guess it's because I'm not as connected to the social side of this place as most of you, but the thing I don't understand is why people seem so close to exploding here. It's happened a few times over the last few months -- one thread, or even one post gets out of hand and someone decides right then to rage quit.

This is a fun place to share random things, wry observations, get support or sympathy, and, on occasion, band together and do something awesome. Sure, you can find a lively debate here, just don't let it consume you.
 
I don't know if this is a whine but here we go:

I tihnk I'm being passed over for jobs because I have a kid. I'm looking for part time work, something to keep my family a little less out of the Red all the time, but the minute I get an interview and they ask about my familial obligations and I happily tell them about my kid theirs eyes sorta glaze over and their smile dulls.

Then I never get a call back.

Also, I'm having trouble figuring out how to work things when I do get a job. My parents are paying for daycare for Jet right now but it's only part time, from 8am-12:30pm. What do I do if I get a job that runs over that or not in those hours at all?

I just wish I could sell some paintings, even if I managed to cell just ONE a month that would be a boon. I thought about doing some whoring around here, offering to do avatar picutres or character portraits...but everoyone seems to have thier own cash flow problems and that wouldn't be right of me.

*sigh* Tis depressing.

I hope the sun comes out tomorrow.
 

GasBandit

Staff member
I guess it's because I'm not as connected to the social side of this place as most of you, but the thing I don't understand is why people seem so close to exploding here. It's happened a few times over the last few months -- one thread, or even one post gets out of hand and someone decides right then to rage quit.

This is a fun place to share random things, wry observations, get support or sympathy, and, on occasion, band together and do something awesome. Sure, you can find a lively debate here, just don't let it consume you.
I blame the llama.

:tina:IT BRINGS THE DRAMA!
 

GasBandit

Staff member
What are your thoughts on employers wanting to log into your facebook and look around before deciding to hire you, Stienman?
 

GasBandit

Staff member
On the rare chance that I'd be willing to work for someone like that, I'd never make it past the interview. I deleted my FB account months ago, but I doubt they'd take that as an excuse.
I've never had one. Unemployment high as it is however, a lot of employer's think they can ask anything... there are 10 people waiting to replace each applicant who balks.
 

GasBandit

Staff member
Yep, and if there's one thing that we're good at, it's trading our liberties and rights for comfort and the perception of security.
Psh, look who you're talking to about THAT.
I suggest that those who can't refuse such jobs consider creating and maintaining a second Facebook account. You won't be able to create one the day before your interview and expect them to believe it. Just start one up now, post to it three times a year, add a really old portrait, add a few of your close family and tell them to put this account on ignore and outside their family and friends groups so nothing of importance shows up.
Heh, I've heard that my brother, who has always gone by his middle name in all circles, goes by that middle name on facebook but goes by his first name (William) on his linked-in profile. And I'm told that there is quite a difference in presentation between the two, so to say.
 
On the rare chance that I'd be willing to work for someone like that, I'd never make it past the interview. I deleted my FB account months ago, but I doubt they'd take that as an excuse.
Yeah, reportedly many of these HR tools who ask for FB access during an interview believe everyone has a FB account. If you tell them you don't have one, allegedly they just assume you're lying and remove you from consideration. But really, these sorts of stories are like the boogeyman of job hunters. It's not a common occurence, it's just something that made for great headlines.
 

GasBandit

Staff member
I just realized I left the leftover pizza out on the kitchen counter last night! By the time I can get home to put it back in the fridge, it will already be all dessicated and yecchy! NOOOOOOOOOOO! Pizzaaaaaa!

 

GasBandit

Staff member
Marilyn Manson and Rob Zombie are coming to town. I'd like to go see them... but I don't want to see them surrounded by the "people" I know will be there.
 
Also, giving anyone (including companies) access to your facebook is a breach of contract. The Terms of Use, which you signed and agreed to upon creating an account, clearly state
You will not share your password (or in the case of developers, your secret key), let anyone else access your account, or do anything else that might jeopardize the security of your account.
So, really - they're asking you to break the law for them. That's illegal, that is.
 

GasBandit

Staff member
Also, giving anyone (including companies) access to your facebook is a breach of contract. The Terms of Use, which you signed and agreed to upon creating an account, clearly state


So, really - they're asking you to break the law for them. That's illegal, that is.
Technically, that's not illegal, it's just a breach of contract. They can't throw you in jail for it, they can only take away your facebook access. Contracts are not laws, and frequently laws invalidate contracts. But a contract never trumps a law.
 
Technically, that's not illegal, it's just a breach of contract. They can't throw you in jail for it, they can only take away your facebook access. Contracts are not laws, and frequently laws invalidate contracts. But a contract never trumps a law.
I'm aware - but trying to get someone else to break contract is illegal, isn't it? Not entirely sure...Either way, it's still unethical to force your employees to do so. What does that say about your integrity towards your employer? If you don't honour one contract, why would you honour another? That would be my response, anyway...But I'm not exactly great at interviews :p
 

GasBandit

Staff member
I'm aware - but trying to get someone else to break contract is illegal, isn't it? Not entirely sure...Either way, it's still unethical to force your employees to do so. What does that say about your integrity towards your employer? If you don't honour one contract, why would you honour another? That would be my response, anyway...But I'm not exactly great at interviews :p
Unethical, possibly, but ethics has little to do with law. Contracts are a civil matter, not a criminal one. You might find yourself liable for damages, but you still would not be tried in criminal court under most circumstances.
 
Unethical, possibly, but ethics has little to do with law. Contracts are a civil matter, not a criminal one. You might find yourself liable for damages, but you still would not be tried in criminal court under most circumstances.
OK...This is, honestly, really, not trolling but a question of the informative kind. Is breach of contract not something the justice system in the US deals with? It's not a criminal act, granted, but isn't it in civil law somewhere? I mean, if I buy a house off of you, I get the house but don't give you money, you can sue me, right? And that isn't theft, or whatever - it's breach of contract, no?
I mean, if contracts aren't legally enforceable, if you enter into a contract without being legally bound to it...Why would anyone ever keep up their end of the bargain?
Illegal may be the wrong word, but "something that will get me in trouble with a court and fines/damages being paid" is still enough reason to refuse your employer, surely?
 

GasBandit

Staff member
OK...This is, honestly, really, not trolling but a question of the informative kind. Is breach of contract not something the justice system in the US deals with? It's not a criminal act, granted, but isn't it in civil law somewhere? I mean, if I buy a house off of you, I get the house but don't give you money, you can sue me, right? And that isn't theft, or whatever - it's breach of contract, no?
I mean, if contracts aren't legally enforceable, if you enter into a contract without being legally bound to it...Why would anyone ever keep up their end of the bargain?
Illegal may be the wrong word, but "something that will get me in trouble with a court and fines/damages being paid" is still enough reason to refuse your employer, surely?
The word you are looking for is actionable, I think. If you take payment for something but do not deliver it, depending upon the circumstances that can be not just breach of contract but fraud, larceny, or theft, which ARE crimes and are sometimes part of breaking a contract, in which case the criminal court does come into play. However, so long as it is a civil matter, the word "illegal" never enters into it, as the only things that are illegal are that which violate laws. And it is extremely dubious that facebook (or any criminal court) would be able to successfully prove that sharing an account password is theft, larceny, fraud, or any other such criminal activity. The worst they can do to you is only that which is in their own power as owner and operator of the service - refuse to render service unto you.

In this case, you can argue to the potential employer that sharing your login information would bring you in breach of contract/violation of terms of service with facebook, and you would be correct... but all that would mean is that you don't get that job. Because there are 10 people lined up behind you (in the US at least) who might be willing to do so. Unethical? Possibly. Illegal? Perhaps, if a specific law is passed about it, which may have been by now. But not by simple definition that "breaking a contract is illegal." Musicians go in breach of contract all the time and nobody goes to jail. Didn't you see "that thing you do?" :D
 

BananaHands

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I seriously am going to buy 300 puppy calendars to throw at some of the people in my life.

Seriously. When I say I'm going to do something, I put it in my phone calendar and show up on time. I sure as hell don't need to be reminded about it every goddamn day. Not only that, but one of them has the fucking nerve to get upset at me for only reminding them once.

Idiots. All of them.
 
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